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  • ILE (ENTp)

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  • SEI (ISFp)

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  • ESE (ESFj)

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  • LII (INTj)

    1 6.67%
  • SLE (ESTp)

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  • IEI (INFp)

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  • EIE (ENFj)

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  • LSI (ISTj)

    5 33.33%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    0 0%
  • ILI (INTp)

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  • LIE (ENTj)

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  • ESI (ISFj)

    1 6.67%
  • IEE (ENFp)

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  • SLI (ISTp)

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    I like his energy/feel a lot. Seems like something of great importance fills him.

    I vote LSI too.

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    bump..

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    Is ILE-Ti and 4w3 a possible combination?

    Also, he probably is so last (sp/sx ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    SLE commander
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    No way.

    Some pictures:







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    an SLI-Si 4w3 would be this for comparison


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    As far as classic pop culture exemplars of a type are concerned, Clint Eastwood, buttressed by the roles he's often favored, is THE LSI. "Dirty Harry" ain't no goddamned SLI.

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    One of the main problems with LSI for Eastwood is that he does not seem to have Beta values. Rather than being driven by the desire to impact the world through use of a unified vision and system, he seems to desire that everyone mind their own business and lead their own lives apart from interference.

    He describes himself as a libertarian politically. Here is an excerpt from 'Advocates for Self-Government':

    "Eastwood has made no secret of his pro-liberty views. He first hinted at his politics in Parade magazine (January 12, 1997) when he wrote about government: "Abuse of power isn't limited to bad guys in other nations. It happens in our own country if we're not vigilant. Those in power get jaded, deluded and seduced by power itself." He explicitly went on the record as a libertarian in a March 1997 interview, when he was asked: "How would you characterize yourself politically?" Eastwood replied: "Libertarian...Everyone leaves everyone else alone."


    This does not seem to suggest valued Se, nor Beta values.

    And this is what the libertarian party platform is, according to their official website:

    "We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual. We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."

    "We on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual: namely, (1) the right to life - accordingly we support the prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others; (2) the right to liberty of speech and action - accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form; and (3) the right to property - accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation. Since governments, when instituted, must not violate individual rights, we oppose all interference by government in the areas of voluntary and contractual relations among individuals. People should not be forced to sacrifice their lives and property for the benefit of others. They should be left free by the government to deal with one another as free traders; and the resultant economic system, the only one compatible with the protection of individual rights, is the free market."

    All of the above are in complete opposition to LSI and Beta Quadra.

    LSI is oriented toward a social system, a hierarchy in society. They do not want to live outside of the system - rather, the system is an integral part of their identity. Beta Quadra seeks to destroy existing systems and to create new systems that are in line with their ideology. And the systems they create seek to bring strict order and regulation, by use of force, to the population that encompasses them.

    The values of Libertarianism (Eastwood's stated belief system) are at complete odds with that kind of mentality. LSI (and Beta in general) is programmed for a societal system, and LSI in particular is responsible for keeping everyone in their place within that system. Eastwood's stated beliefs are the complete opposite of that.

    So, if the choice is between LSI and SLI, then SLI.

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    Definitely a Logic type. Possibly LSI.

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    Clint Eastwood - ISTJ Gorky








    Last edited by khcs; 07-04-2020 at 05:49 PM.

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    SLI

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    LSI

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    The ISTJ, the INFP and the ESTP



    The ENFP is beating the ESTP while the other INFP is watching

    Last edited by khcs; 11-23-2020 at 03:17 PM.

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    ISTJ, ESTP, INFP





    Last edited by khcs; 11-23-2020 at 03:16 PM.

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    SLI 8w9 sp/sx

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    LSI-Se. A lot of LSI-Se don't care to have Fe, especially if it's poorly structured. Just like a lot of ILE-Ti love Se.

    Socionics isn't great for relationships. ILE-Ti usually get along better with Gammas than Deltas even though the theory predicts otherwise.

    I tend to take holistic, physical (how they feel, look, sound, physically), and analytical approach when typing people, although it's pretty idiosyncratic; I don't go by the official theory much. But he VIs more as LSI than SLI. And he has a darkness about him that's Beta.

    I admit I don't know of many people who are SLI, but Clint Eastwood was more revolutionary and popular than Delta would seem to be.

    LSI-Se vary, perhaps more than any other type, in how laid back they seem and they're also not consistent about it either. Clint Eastwood seems very laid back though, but well within the standards of all LSI-Se.
    I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    ...Socionics isn't great for relationships...
    Start a relationship with your conflictor or your supervisor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Start a relationship with your conflictor or your supervisor.
    Supervision relationships can be excellent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
    Supervision relationships can be excellent.
    Supervision inter-type relationships are often parent-child relationships. Does it make you happy on the long run?

    Always being corrected by the supervisor, always feeling inadequate or not worthy enough in every situation at all times.

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    ESI, dominant subtype
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Supervision inter-type relationships are often parent-child relationships. Does it make you happy on the long run?

    Always being corrected by the supervisor, always feeling inadequate or not worthy enough in every situation at all times.
    Socionics' literature on inter-type relations is incomplete still. There are many Supervision marriages with strong longevity. So many, in fact, that one cannot argue that these are exceptions to the rule. It is more likely that the rule is wrong and needs revaluation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
    Socionics' literature on inter-type relations is incomplete still. There are many Supervision marriages with strong longevity. So many, in fact, that one cannot argue that these are exceptions to the rule. It is more likely that the rule is wrong and needs revaluation.
    As it is mentioned before supervision relationships can be very miserable.

    It is possible to imagine a situation where the psychologically unhealthy supervisee is trying to reach out for a supervisor for help.

    Another situation is when a psychologically unhealthy supervisor harms the supervisee. This one can become very ugly.

    A healthy supervisor usually do not want to harm the supervisee.

    When a person meets an unhealthy supervisor it is better to cut contact quickly without regret.
    Last edited by khcs; 11-24-2020 at 10:53 PM.

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