I am ennegran 8 probably 7 wing sx/so or so/sx.. leaning more towards the sx first based on Beatrice Chestnut's writing.
I am ennegran 8 probably 7 wing sx/so or so/sx.. leaning more towards the sx first based on Beatrice Chestnut's writing.
@Smilex, I know a bunch of LSE's (both male and female - I have a great ESTj friend and have worked with multiple ESTj's and both my mother and sister are ESTj's, and I have also worked with many ENTj's), and to me, while I wanted to believe that you are ENTj because you wrote the best inter-type descriptions that I have read from an ENTj's perspective, I do clearly get ESTj vibes from you. Your Si is just too strong. And your sense of humor is really ESTj.
It's funny, though. It's easy to tell that you are a Te-dom.
Sorry to hear that you were raised in Beta. I was raised in Delta, which presented many problems, but not nearly as many as I imagine you experienced.
As for not looking for a leader position, it's true. I normally take a very hands-off position in everything because it gives people free-rein to express themselves originally, and I really like it when people do that. However, if there is something that strongly affects me or offers an opportunity for real profit, I step up and do try to take control of the situation.
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9w8 sp/sx i am unsure about my tritype though
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2w1 sx/so:
2w1 sx/sp: Sapphire
2w1 sp/so: Timmy, Jack Oliver Aaron/echidna (wss), GammavsBeta/Leaderlightchange
2w1 sp/sx: Maritsa
2w1 so/sx: Emmym
2w3 sx/so: N1cole
2w3 sx/sp: Mercer
2w3 so/sp: Yaaroslav
2w3 so/sx: Limitless
2w3 sp/so: VogueParis
2w3 sp/sx: Kim, Wacey
3w2 sx/so: Transkar
3w2 sx/sp:
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3w2 sp/sx:
3w2 so/sp: Reuben
3w2 so/sx: Ezra
3w4 sx/so: Darya, Gilly, QueenTiger
3w4 sx/sp: Starfall/Fox, Cuivienin
3w4 sp/so: Suedehead, Olimpia, Niko
3w4 sp/sx: UDP, Adam Strange, Etar
3w4 so/sp: Lucas, Xerx
3w4 so/sx: JMC, Forever , FarDraft
4w3 sx/so: BnD
4w3 sx/sp: Dolphin
4w3 sp/sx: Mactheknife
4w3 sp/so: Grain of Song
4w3 so/sp: LucyintheSky
4w3 so/sx: Silverchris, Summerprincess, Cassandra
4w5 sx/so: ian rust/rat1, Megane, Wasp
4w5 sx/sp: aivonaima
4w5 sp/so: golden, penny dreadful
4w5 sp/sx: newbornstar
4w5 so/sp: ammonius hermaie/quote unquote
4w5 so/sx: holon
5w4 sx/so: Scapegrace
5w4 so/sx: Kimuchi/Early Sunset/etc
5w4 sp/sx: Strrrng
5w4 so/sp: Marie
5w4 sp/so: Glam
5w4 sx/sp: Velvet, Vers
5w6 sx/so: Korpsey
5w6 sx/sp: Reactance
5w6 sp/so: Eyeseecold, Cpig, Unary
5w6 sp/sx: Krieger, Muddytextures
5w6 so/sp: Noki/Kopyk
5w6 so/sx: Aestrivex
6w5 so/sx: Finale/Finaplex, RME83, pmj, villageidiot
6w5 sx/so: Airman
6w5 sx/sp: Pookie, The Whole English, May, Maithilli, MisterNi
6w5 sp/sx: Lungs, Aixelsyd, Tenefix, Radio, Ouronis, Radio, Amber, Niffer , Number9Large
6w5 sp/so: Joy, Menssupermateriam, Soupman, Anndelise, Hacim
6w5 so/sp: InvisibleJim, PeteronFiree, LuchoisLurking, DJ Arendee
6w7 sx/so: JetCityWoman, Pinoline
6w7 sx/sp: Absurd
6w7 so/sx: Scarlettlux, Lim, Contra, Alonzo
6w7 sp/sx: Geneiouws, Nondescript, Dangerbird89
6w7 so/sp: Danali, Lapa , BurningIce, Owl, KingSlayer
6w7 sp/so: Jessica, ChrisCorey, Tela/Arachne
7w6 sx/so: Jadae
7w6 sx/sp: discojoe
7w6 sp/so: Anglas, Troll NR 007
7w6 sp/sx: Hitta, Moonraker
7w6 so/sp: Cubazoan
7w6 so/sx: Mega
7w8 sx/so: Lagerdemon, Handjob
7w8 sx/sp: Ashton
7w8 so/sx: Bain
7w8 sp/sx: Gummi
7w8 so/sp: Myst
7w8 sp/so: Ineffable
8w7 sx/so: Deestructor/InvisibleHim
8w7 sx/sp: FDG
8w7 so/sp: Kill4me
8w7 sp/so:
8w7 sp/sx: Mercutio/Satan
8w7 so/sx: Words
8w9 sx/so: Agee
8w9 so/sx: Narc
8w9 sx/sp: Ananke
8w9 sp/sx: Expat
8w9 so/sp: Smilingeyes
8w9 sp/so: Laurie’s Crusader
9w8 sx/sp: Allie
9w8 sp/sx: Spider, Stray, Araz
9w8 sx/so: Aquagraph
9w8 sp/so: Ollie, Karatos
9w8 so/sp: Elina, Rocky, Scarper
9w8 so/sx: Woof, Idontgiveaf
9w1 sx/so: Aylen, c3vu, Xiaviay
9w1 sx/sp: Pink, Lord Pixel
9w1 sp/so: Subteigh , Bluebird
9w1 sp/sx: Inumbra, Minde, Rogue, Singu, Ronin, Bertrand, Hamouchou
9w1 so/sp: Chips N Underwear, Chem, Megatrop
9w1 so/sx: Suz, Enoch, Chryssie, Flutteringshyx, Tpaduan
1w9 sx/so: Kore
1w9 sx/sp: Hkkmr
1w9 sp/so: Esaman, Krig the Viking
1w9 sp/sx: Parkster
1w9 so/sp: RedVillain, MikeMex, HotelAmbush
1w9 so/sx: JohannesBloem, Jeremy
1w2 sx/so: MissBabyDoll
1w2 sx/sp: Agarina
1w2 so/sp: Silke, Nanashi
1w2 sp/so: Sol, Director Abbie, Neon
1w2 so/sx: Trevor
1w2 sp/sx: Birdie, Ellonwy
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@Delilah mb E9
over touchy to disagreement with her fantasies
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
I think i may be E4?
@Beautiful sky aka Maritsa
mb E8
likes to give senseless orders and to pretend for a leadership without reasonable basis
feels in herself a wish for a power comparable with Napoleon
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
@Sol umm no. she's a 2. 2 disintegrates to 8 though.
the thing with napoleon, she says that if she sees a problem she wants to fix it which is not 8. that post is more like pride of being a 'good person'. (8s ego are not based on being a good person, at all. (not to say that all 8s are bad people but its just not a point of pride for them or anything they HAVE to be) the moralistic egos are 1, 2 and 6)
Average Levels
Level 4: Want to be closer to others, so start "people pleasing," becoming overly friendly, emotionally demonstrative, and full of "good intentions" about everything. Give seductive attention: approval, "strokes," flattery. Love is their supreme value, and they talk about it constantly.
Level 5: Become overly intimate and intrusive: they need to be needed, so they hover, meddle, and control in the name of love. Want others to depend on them: give, but expect a return: send double messages. Enveloping and possessive: the codependent, self-sacrificial person who cannot do enough for others—wearing themselves out for everyone, creating needs for themselves to fulfill.
Level 6: Increasingly self-important and self-satisfied, feel they are indispensable, although they overrate their efforts in others' behalf. Hypochondria, becoming a "martyr" for others. Overbearing, patronizing, presumptuous.
Unhealthy Levels
Level 7: Can be manipulative and self-serving, instilling guilt by telling others how much they owe them and make them suffer. Abuse food and medication to "stuff feelings" and get sympathy. Undermine people, making belittling, disparaging remarks. Extremely self-deceptive about their motives and how aggressive and/or selfish their behavior is.
Level 8: Domineering and coercive: feel entitled to get anything they want from others: the repayment of old debts, money, sexual favors.
Level 9: Able to excuse and rationalize what they do since they feel abused and victimized by others and are bitterly resentful and angry. Somatization of their aggressions results in chronic health problems as they vindicate themselves by "falling apart" and burdening others. Generally corresponds to the Histrionic Personality Disorder and Factitious Disorder.
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Well, Sol is proving to base his typing on personal issues with people now. Such a low T, such an F, no logic, smh
"I am my own muse. I am the subject I know best, the subject I want to know better."
4 core, sx/so slight sx bend, xNFp Melancholic, Negotiator, Explorer
never cared for Enneagram, but I remember doing some tests a few years ago and always getting 5 as result.
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Lol I would say 5w4 undoubtedly, @soundofconfusion
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She's predisposed to rude inadequate demands where is nothing except her egocentric wish of a control (1, 2).
It seems hard for her to get any disagreements and opposing. She takes such situations too personally.
The general attitude to power leads her to megalomanic fantasies to be like Napoleon.
What I see is beyond normal behavior of EIE and reminds E-8. On the forum I did not notice much of her tries to help others [by advices, for example] to assign E-2.
I suspect E8w9 in her.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
@Sol lol yes 2's can be like that. she's not hard like an 8 she obviously puts on a front that is sweet and caring and wants good. a 2 will do that even if they might not follow that. look at the health levels for 2 i inserted. it's not seldom at all that a 2 doesn't live up to their "good and helpful" image they want to portray, but nonetheless they ALWAYS have that image. I'm very experienced with this type of 2 because my mother is one. she thinks of herself as the most caring helpful person in the world but is she? no she's pretty narcissistic and stubborn but then act all innocent and martyr-like "I was just trying to help!".
8s would never put that image on themselves. and they would never type as EII and say they're an idealistic dreamer caretaker or whatever. just no. 8 is a ridiculous typing for her.
where here do you see a need for a portrayal of good, moral and comforting etc?Average Levels
Level 4: Self-sufficiency, financial independence, and having enough resources are important concerns: become enterprising, pragmatic, "rugged individualists," wheeler-dealers. Risk-taking, hardworking, denying own emotional needs.
Level 5: Begin to dominate their environment, including others: want to feel that others are behind them, supporting their efforts. Swaggering, boastful, forceful, and expansive: the "boss" whose word is law. Proud, egocentric, want to impose their will and vision on everything, not seeing others as equals or treating them with respect.
Level 6: Become highly combative and intimidating to get their way: confrontational, belligerent, creating adversarial relationships. Everything a test of wills, and they will not back down. Use threats and reprisals to get obedience from others, to keep others off balance and insecure. However, unjust treatment makes others fear and resent them, possibly also band together against them.
Unhealthy Levels
Level 7: Defying any attempt to control them, become completely ruthless, dictatorial, "might makes right." The criminal and outlaw, renegade, and con-artist. Hard-hearted, immoral and potentially violent.
Level 8: Develop delusional ideas about their power, invincibility, and ability to prevail: megalomania, feeling omnipotent, invulnerable. Recklessly over-extending self.
Level 9: If they get in danger, they may brutally destroy everything that has not conformed to their will rather than surrender to anyone else. Vengeful, barbaric, murderous. Sociopathic tendencies. Generally corresponds to the Antisocial Personality Disorder.
here's a comparison between 2 and 8:
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She tries to be "sweet" by being F and playing "cute EII".
Easily switches to rude "command mode" from all that sweetness. While shows no significant attitude to help others here. The surface introverted traits which lead her to assign herself introvertion may relate to w9.
There is possibility for E8, at least.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
I'm a 3w4 (3w4-7w8-8w7)
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for what purpose is she playing sweet and cute? i would consider another type like her for example 6, but not 8 because i do not see a reason for why an 8 would consistently play up being this mother theresa person.
remember that on the internet people have the freedom to be and say anything they want to (basically) without consequences. it can distort ones personality.
Last edited by maniac; 11-12-2019 at 11:48 PM.
"that it will never come again is what makes life sweet"
- emily dickinson
I mean Sol also thinks E8 EII is somehow possible so i dont think arguing with him over this shit is gonna convince him otherwise
I have found through a past friendship that this form of narcissism can come across as enneagram 2.
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4 core, sx/so slight sx bend, xNFp Melancholic, Negotiator, Explorer
@bouncingoffclouds
mb E9
highly possibly SEI, meanwhile is predisposed to dreaming
in her profile: "Location: Psychedelic Dream Castle in Outer Space"
insists to have N type, partly mb due to E-9 traits
being Fe and having rather rude general talking, has reduced level of direct and open conflicting. besides the introvertion, this mb also due to E-type
having SEI, has a not so common for them a predisposition to limit external opinions and info. created and soon closed own typing theme. said in famouses types theme that likes to use ignore function - muchly seems against the different opinions about types. reminds the behavior to reduce external influences to support own comfortable dreams, significantly expected at E-9
in impressions on me from her nonverbal had no clear annoying Fe. I perceive E-9 as soft people and this could lead to suppose Fi significant possibility for her, in the beginning. until her behavior on the forum added more data about the type. the similar can predispose her own current mistyping herself to Fi (IEE)
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
lmao @ being a 9, oh man, you clearly have no idea who I am. I have dated 9's though and that was a rather good union. I guess I should be flattered because 9's are quite lovely people and quite easygoing.
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