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    Quote Originally Posted by The Internationale View Post
    Even though my mom self-typed as a sexual subtype 1 and I agree that does mostly fit her, she seems to put a lot of faith in her church--to what I believe is an unhealthy extent. I've wondered if she's really a social 6 rather than a sexual one. She's a classic LSE, as I'm sure I told you before.



    Your typing would make me an Sp/Sx, and my mother So/Sx, assuming we are both 6s.
    it is possible. Social sixes tend to be 1-like and are often mistaken for that type. So accentuates the tendency of the 6 to be partizan and depend on external systems of thought, such as church, political allegiances and so on or simply be a dutiful enforcer of the group or clan-ish us vs them.

    imo I'm so/sx.. but I initially thought I was a 4 or an 8.

    Here is a good description imo:

    Enneagram Type Six: The Inquirer

    Basic Desire:
    To feel secure and protected.

    Focused On:
    The world can be dangerous and threatening; people cannot always be trusted. I must seek security to avoid danger or defy security to face it.

    Enneagram Type Sixes thrive when they feel safe, secure and have a sense of belonging. They are faithful, loyal and cautious. Although they exude warmth, affection, strength and calm, they often doubt themselves and others; Sixes want to connect with people and yet are skeptical of them.

    Type Sixes both respect and challenge authority. They can be fearful and insecure, or fearless and confident. Making decisions can be hard and they often second-guess themselves. This type is always looking for what can go wrong—and then preparing for it.

    Enneagram Type Six Key Characteristics

    Responsible
    Persevering
    Intuitive
    Worst-case scenario thinking
    Analytical

    Enneagram Type Six Focus: Preparing for What Can Go Wrong

    In many cases, someone with a Type Six personality faced a threatening situation as a child, often in the form of an unpredictable parent. The child learned to be prepared for a shift in the relationship and coped with this by monitoring situations closely, always on the lookout for a sign that change was afoot.

    Because of this, Type Sixes have an unusual perspective on authority; they are both looking for a truly good authority figure while also feeling suspicious of anyone who might play that role.
    Enneagram Type Six Vice: Fear

    Each Enneagram Type is associated with a vice, or passion. The vice indicates the primary emotional-motivational issue for a person of that Type.

    Type Six’s vice is fear, which can be conscious or unconscious. A Type Six experiences this fear as obsessive worrying, self-doubt, uncertainty or guilt. Sixes are prone to anxiety as well, particularly in social situations when they’re concerned about being judged by others. A Type Six reacts to fear in one of three ways: attacking the situation forcefully (fight, counterphobic), withdrawing from it (flight, phobic), or complying with any set rules (freeze).

    Sixes protect themselves from fear by projecting onto others. Rather than acknowledging their own uncomfortable feelings, they may imagine they are coming from someone else.
    Exploring Enneagram Type Six Further

    Centers, subtypes and wings help provide additional insight into how a person operates within their type.
    Enneagram Type Six Center

    A core tenet of the Enneagram is that people are “three-brained,” meaning that we exist with three centers of intelligence: the body center, the heart center and the head center.

    Type Six is part of the head center, which regulates cognitive activities. These Types filter the world through their thoughts. While this intelligence is necessary for analysis and reasoning, Sixes spend considerable time thinking about what could go wrong and strategizing for how to handle it.

    The issues of each center revolve around a mostly unconscious emotional response to losing contact with the core self. Type Sixes, as well as Fives and Sevens which are also in the head center, struggle with feelings of fear as the dominant emotion. The Type Six is confronted by fear as both their vice and their core emotion.

    Enneagram Type Six Instinctual Subtypes

    The Enneagram system allows for 3 subtypes in each type. They are Self Preservation, Social and 1:1 Bonding.

    Self-Preservation emphasizes behavior related to safety and security.
    Social focuses on belonging, recognition and relationships in social groups.
    1:1 Bonding concentrates on individual relationships and interpersonal attraction.


    Self-Preservation Type Sixes: Warmth

    The SP Six is the most phobic of the three Six subtypes. They are driven by a fear of not being protected. This drives them to develop friendships with many people to create a wall of protection around themselves. Externally, SP Sixes project warmth, tenderness and peacefulness, but inside, they feel fear and anguish of losing the protection these relationships provide them. They often feel compelled to “be good” so as not to anger others or risk alienating them.

    Social Type Sixes: Duty

    Social Sixes find comfort in authority and obeying the rules. They fear disapproval and therefore work hard to adhere to the guidelines of whatever authority figure they rely on. This obedience helps them feel safe and cope with their inherent anxiety. The Social Six can become too sure of things when they place their trust in an authority they assume is infallible. They have no tolerance for ambiguity and uncertainty.

    1:1 Bonding Type Sixes: Strength/Beauty

    The 1:1 Bonding Six is the most counterphobic of the three Type Six subtypes. Believing that “the best defense is a good offense,” they turn away from fear and toward strength. That doesn’t mean they are fearless, but they would rather confront risky situations instead of hiding from them. 1:1 Bonding Sixes often appear physically strong, forceful, intimidating and rebellious, but they also fear making a mistake and the consequences of it.

    Enneagram Type Six Wings

    Each Enneagram type has two wings, which are the numbers on either side of the Type. One wing is usually stronger than the other and its qualities are more likely to bleed over into the main Type.

    A 6 with a 5 wing (6w5) is more serious and traditional with a stronger bent toward research and analysis.

    A 5 with a 7 wing (6w7) is more relationship-oriented and extroverted than the 6w5.

    Enneagram Type Sixes at Work

    Enneagram Type Sixes excel at research and analysis. They anticipate problems and are always prepared for them. Additionally, they keep their teams on-track and are often considered go-to people in a crisis.

    With their attention to detail, Sixes gravitate toward jobs that require planning and problem solving like detective work and accident investigations. They may also excel as emergency personnel, CIA or FBI agents or psychotherapists.

    A Six can be perceived by teammates as a “negative Nellie,” due to them always looking out for worst-case scenarios in an effort to be prepared for anything.
    Leadership

    Enneagram Type Six leaders are strategists who create tools and systems that empower workers to solve individual and organizational problems. They are insightful, responsible, cautious, loyal, forward-thinking and intellectual. As a leader, they may also find themselves playing devil’s advocate in an effort to anticipate all potential future issues.

    When faced with instability, Type Sixes can become indecisive, worried, anxious and hyperanalytical.

    Making Decisions

    Similar to Type Nines, decision making is difficult for Type Sixes. The Six tends to question everything, including themselves; as Beatrice Chestnut, PhD, shares in The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge, “while Sixes are great critical thinkers, they can get stuck in doubt, endless questioning, and overanalysis.” They often seem to be ambivalent about taking action.

    Conflicts and Resolution

    In a perfect world, the Type Six is aware of their tendency to project their feelings onto someone else, and therefore can recognize when they’re doing just that and communicate their personal responsibility for their own thoughts. It’s important for them to verbalize their concerns, rather than overanalyze them, and work through them.

    When giving feedback to a Type Six, keep it spontaneous. Alerting a Type Six that feedback is coming will send them into a tailspin of worry and anxiety. They may need time to process afterwards; phobic Sixes may become defensive as well.

    A Type Six giving feedback to someone else must take responsibility for it, speaking confidently and with conviction. This is not the time to be ambivalent! The Six must access their own authority and have faith that what they are communicating is correct while also taking care not to appear sarcastic or accusatory.
    Continued Growth and Development for Enneagram Type Sixes

    The Enneagram Type Six is thoughtful and loyal to those they trust; however, they must work to overcome their fear and the paralysis that can accompany it. It’s important to work on trusting their instincts and owning their power.

    Dr. Chestnut suggests in The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge that each type can benefit from self-observation, self-inquiry, self-reflection and self-development.

    For Type Sixes, this means:

    Observing the various ways they cope with fear and anxiety
    Paying attention to how they behave when afraid
    Acting on what they’ve noticed; Type Sixes must work to develop trust, faith and courage

    All Enneagram types can evolve by moving ahead to their “Growth-Stress” point and back to their “Child-Heart” point. For the Type Six, they can move ahead to Three, working against the fears that plague them and focusing on productivity. Conversely, the Six can retreat to Nine to balance their focus on planning and preparing with the Nine’s focus on comfort.

    Managing anxiety can be helpful for the Type Six. Whether they engage in meditation or relaxation techniques, visualization, exercise, visiting with a therapist, or something else, relieving themselves of some anxiety reduces their stress.

    Although the Six is not necessarily a pessimist—rather, they are usually playing devil’s advocate when they seem contrary—engaging in positive thinking will be to their benefit. It may help them consider that the worst-case scenario they’ve dreamed up might not be the most-likely scenario.

    Enneagram Type Sixes must learn to recognize their reaction to fear, be it fight, flight or freeze. When they confront their fear and push past it, they become a powerful example of wisdom and courage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    it is possible. Social sixes tend to be 1-like and are often mistaken for that type. So accentuates the tendency of the 6 to be partizan and depend on external systems of thought, such as church, political allegiances and so on or simply be a dutiful enforcer of the group or clan-ish us vs them.

    imo I'm so/sx.. but I initially thought I was a 4 or an 8.

    Here is a good description imo:

    Enneagram Type Six: The Inquirer

    Basic Desire:
    To feel secure and protected.

    Focused On:
    The world can be dangerous and threatening; people cannot always be trusted. I must seek security to avoid danger or defy security to face it.

    Enneagram Type Sixes thrive when they feel safe, secure and have a sense of belonging. They are faithful, loyal and cautious. Although they exude warmth, affection, strength and calm, they often doubt themselves and others; Sixes want to connect with people and yet are skeptical of them.

    Type Sixes both respect and challenge authority. They can be fearful and insecure, or fearless and confident. Making decisions can be hard and they often second-guess themselves. This type is always looking for what can go wrong—and then preparing for it.

    Enneagram Type Six Key Characteristics

    Responsible
    Persevering
    Intuitive
    Worst-case scenario thinking
    Analytical

    Enneagram Type Six Focus: Preparing for What Can Go Wrong

    In many cases, someone with a Type Six personality faced a threatening situation as a child, often in the form of an unpredictable parent. The child learned to be prepared for a shift in the relationship and coped with this by monitoring situations closely, always on the lookout for a sign that change was afoot.

    Because of this, Type Sixes have an unusual perspective on authority; they are both looking for a truly good authority figure while also feeling suspicious of anyone who might play that role.
    Enneagram Type Six Vice: Fear

    Each Enneagram Type is associated with a vice, or passion. The vice indicates the primary emotional-motivational issue for a person of that Type.

    Type Six’s vice is fear, which can be conscious or unconscious. A Type Six experiences this fear as obsessive worrying, self-doubt, uncertainty or guilt. Sixes are prone to anxiety as well, particularly in social situations when they’re concerned about being judged by others. A Type Six reacts to fear in one of three ways: attacking the situation forcefully (fight, counterphobic), withdrawing from it (flight, phobic), or complying with any set rules (freeze).

    Sixes protect themselves from fear by projecting onto others. Rather than acknowledging their own uncomfortable feelings, they may imagine they are coming from someone else.
    Exploring Enneagram Type Six Further

    Centers, subtypes and wings help provide additional insight into how a person operates within their type.
    Enneagram Type Six Center

    A core tenet of the Enneagram is that people are “three-brained,” meaning that we exist with three centers of intelligence: the body center, the heart center and the head center.

    Type Six is part of the head center, which regulates cognitive activities. These Types filter the world through their thoughts. While this intelligence is necessary for analysis and reasoning, Sixes spend considerable time thinking about what could go wrong and strategizing for how to handle it.

    The issues of each center revolve around a mostly unconscious emotional response to losing contact with the core self. Type Sixes, as well as Fives and Sevens which are also in the head center, struggle with feelings of fear as the dominant emotion. The Type Six is confronted by fear as both their vice and their core emotion.

    Enneagram Type Six Instinctual Subtypes

    The Enneagram system allows for 3 subtypes in each type. They are Self Preservation, Social and 1:1 Bonding.

    Self-Preservation emphasizes behavior related to safety and security.
    Social focuses on belonging, recognition and relationships in social groups.
    1:1 Bonding concentrates on individual relationships and interpersonal attraction.


    Self-Preservation Type Sixes: Warmth

    The SP Six is the most phobic of the three Six subtypes. They are driven by a fear of not being protected. This drives them to develop friendships with many people to create a wall of protection around themselves. Externally, SP Sixes project warmth, tenderness and peacefulness, but inside, they feel fear and anguish of losing the protection these relationships provide them. They often feel compelled to “be good” so as not to anger others or risk alienating them.

    Social Type Sixes: Duty

    Social Sixes find comfort in authority and obeying the rules. They fear disapproval and therefore work hard to adhere to the guidelines of whatever authority figure they rely on. This obedience helps them feel safe and cope with their inherent anxiety. The Social Six can become too sure of things when they place their trust in an authority they assume is infallible. They have no tolerance for ambiguity and uncertainty.

    1:1 Bonding Type Sixes: Strength/Beauty

    The 1:1 Bonding Six is the most counterphobic of the three Type Six subtypes. Believing that “the best defense is a good offense,” they turn away from fear and toward strength. That doesn’t mean they are fearless, but they would rather confront risky situations instead of hiding from them. 1:1 Bonding Sixes often appear physically strong, forceful, intimidating and rebellious, but they also fear making a mistake and the consequences of it.

    Enneagram Type Six Wings

    Each Enneagram type has two wings, which are the numbers on either side of the Type. One wing is usually stronger than the other and its qualities are more likely to bleed over into the main Type.

    A 6 with a 5 wing (6w5) is more serious and traditional with a stronger bent toward research and analysis.

    A 5 with a 7 wing (6w7) is more relationship-oriented and extroverted than the 6w5.

    Enneagram Type Sixes at Work

    Enneagram Type Sixes excel at research and analysis. They anticipate problems and are always prepared for them. Additionally, they keep their teams on-track and are often considered go-to people in a crisis.

    With their attention to detail, Sixes gravitate toward jobs that require planning and problem solving like detective work and accident investigations. They may also excel as emergency personnel, CIA or FBI agents or psychotherapists.

    A Six can be perceived by teammates as a “negative Nellie,” due to them always looking out for worst-case scenarios in an effort to be prepared for anything.
    Leadership

    Enneagram Type Six leaders are strategists who create tools and systems that empower workers to solve individual and organizational problems. They are insightful, responsible, cautious, loyal, forward-thinking and intellectual. As a leader, they may also find themselves playing devil’s advocate in an effort to anticipate all potential future issues.

    When faced with instability, Type Sixes can become indecisive, worried, anxious and hyperanalytical.

    Making Decisions

    Similar to Type Nines, decision making is difficult for Type Sixes. The Six tends to question everything, including themselves; as Beatrice Chestnut, PhD, shares in The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge, “while Sixes are great critical thinkers, they can get stuck in doubt, endless questioning, and overanalysis.” They often seem to be ambivalent about taking action.

    Conflicts and Resolution

    In a perfect world, the Type Six is aware of their tendency to project their feelings onto someone else, and therefore can recognize when they’re doing just that and communicate their personal responsibility for their own thoughts. It’s important for them to verbalize their concerns, rather than overanalyze them, and work through them.

    When giving feedback to a Type Six, keep it spontaneous. Alerting a Type Six that feedback is coming will send them into a tailspin of worry and anxiety. They may need time to process afterwards; phobic Sixes may become defensive as well.

    A Type Six giving feedback to someone else must take responsibility for it, speaking confidently and with conviction. This is not the time to be ambivalent! The Six must access their own authority and have faith that what they are communicating is correct while also taking care not to appear sarcastic or accusatory.
    Continued Growth and Development for Enneagram Type Sixes

    The Enneagram Type Six is thoughtful and loyal to those they trust; however, they must work to overcome their fear and the paralysis that can accompany it. It’s important to work on trusting their instincts and owning their power.

    Dr. Chestnut suggests in The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge that each type can benefit from self-observation, self-inquiry, self-reflection and self-development.

    For Type Sixes, this means:

    Observing the various ways they cope with fear and anxiety
    Paying attention to how they behave when afraid
    Acting on what they’ve noticed; Type Sixes must work to develop trust, faith and courage

    All Enneagram types can evolve by moving ahead to their “Growth-Stress” point and back to their “Child-Heart” point. For the Type Six, they can move ahead to Three, working against the fears that plague them and focusing on productivity. Conversely, the Six can retreat to Nine to balance their focus on planning and preparing with the Nine’s focus on comfort.

    Managing anxiety can be helpful for the Type Six. Whether they engage in meditation or relaxation techniques, visualization, exercise, visiting with a therapist, or something else, relieving themselves of some anxiety reduces their stress.

    Although the Six is not necessarily a pessimist—rather, they are usually playing devil’s advocate when they seem contrary—engaging in positive thinking will be to their benefit. It may help them consider that the worst-case scenario they’ve dreamed up might not be the most-likely scenario.

    Enneagram Type Sixes must learn to recognize their reaction to fear, be it fight, flight or freeze. When they confront their fear and push past it, they become a powerful example of wisdom and courage.
    I'll need to read this later.
    I watched this entire playlist twice, and it seems to be based off of chestnut's types: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...ukYJ9rPyBMBze6

    I can see why 10 years ago, when I first started looking at this stuff (I had a long hiatus in the middle of those 10 years), people thought I was a social 7 or a social 4--I often spoke about all the sacrifices I made to be good, and how it was never enough for everybody around me and I was always a victim. That said, I eventually stopped being so generous with my resources. I eventually learned people will take advantage of me and then throw me out when they are done. With age, I also learned that people can seem like friends but actually be secret enemies, conspiring behind my back. I have to keep mental notes on people to know who is really trustworthy and who is a secret enemy. Surface-wise, I'm very cordial and polite with everybody, even if I don't like them--though if somebody is doing something condemnable, I can offer a sharp rebuke of their actions.

    In that playlist, I can say I no longer (fully) fit the social 7, though I do hold back from doing what I want as part of my political activism. I enjoy comfort, especially nice lodging, good food, and good entertainment. That's not a good look for a socialist unless I can share it with everybody, which I do sometimes to get away with my addictions. Social 4 doesn't really (fully) fit either. The relate to the social 5's love of research/analysis and the self-pres 5's love of alone-time, but 5 in and of itself seems too reclusive/self reliant. Sure, I moved out of my mother's house 3 years ago and live alone, but I still work with my mother for a living and meet most of my needs through social networking and trying to stay on good terms with all my benefactors (while trying to sniff out fake benefactors). This is easier said than done, sometimes, though--I've got moderate depression and moderate ADHD, and these two co-morbid conditions make me appear very lazy to people, even if I put forward a lot of effort to just do what I do.

    As far as what you said about anticipating potential problems at work, I do anticipate them, but I'm seen as lazy and "carefree" due to the depression and the problems with action that causes. My mom is more the go-to problem solver around here who holds everything together and who everybody looks to in a crisis.

    The fact I've helped start a mass movement in the area is kind of a fluke--I saw the need and nobody else was doing it, so I did what needed done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Internationale View Post
    @shotgunfingers<br>I'm often accused of being complacent because I seldom do much of anything, and sometimes let problems get really big because I lack the energy to deal with them. I usually can see the problem coming, but often feel stuck in molasses like I can barely move. I also often feel pretty dead inside.
    @timber, I'll throw you in here, too.
    Sorry, is there a question here? I don't know?

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    The Internationale sounds like you have this:



    Its basically very long term depression, so it feels like its part of your personality, but it isn't. Some people myself included are just high functioning depressives.

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    @Kill4Me I am not a 1 lol. The only types that remotely make sense for me are 9 and 5. 5 is closer though.

    Some other ones seem off too...Jack as a 2? Myst as a 7???
    I would revise this now; I think 1 is more reasonable than 9 now. But I still think I'm a 5. 512 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    The Internationale sounds like you have this:



    Its basically very long term depression, so it feels like its part of your personality, but it isn't. Some people myself included are just high functioning depressives.
    Oh, well, I based a lot of my typing and enneagram/socionics on that. I've been like this so long, I don't remember being any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Internationale View Post
    Oh, well, I based a lot of my typing and enneagram/socionics on that. I've been like this so long, I don't remember being any different.
    Yeah, I can't remember they day I became like this either and I thought it was a stable part of my personality.. e_e but its just depression and it can go away with effort it seems, which then reveals one's real personality underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Yeah, I can't remember they day I became like this either and I thought it was a stable part of my personality.. e_e but its just depression and it can go away with effort it seems, which then reveals one's real personality underneath.
    I have been on and off of treatment to find help the last 21 years. Nothing really seems to help, and makes me wonder if its really depression or some other problem that really looks like depression. My mom suggested I may just be lazy since none of the depression treatments have ever done anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I'm curious; why?

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    shotgunfingers seems like enneagram 7 to Me, bombarding, recycling, sucker punching, deluge spawning, he just finds the eye of the hurricane, and directs will-lines to penetrate in a dynamic and screeching way the silver cloud.
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    ILI, lol? Video seems to depict Ni imagery (Ni<->Si). Yet you seem to have plenty of Ne that spins from Ni vacuum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    shotgunfingers seems like enneagram 7 to Me, bombarding, recycling, sucker punching, deluge spawning, he just finds the eye of the hurricane, and directs will-lines to penetrate in a dynamic and screeching way the silver cloud.
    I would say more like cp6w5 or 8w7.
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    Pretty sure I’m Sp/So. 2.

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    I’m not even sure anymore about myself. Think I need a refresher on enneagram. I do think I’m likely so/sp stacking....But how do you differentiate social instinct from socionics aristocracy, is what I’ve been wondering

    some of it sounds kind of similar
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    I am guessing 4w3 for my enneagram type, but I am not certain. I could be a 3w4 or a 1w2. All I know is that my sense of self is not particularly strong.

    Looking back, I realized how much I am motivated by shame. I used to think that fear or my desire to be “perfect” (by my standards) was motivating me. So, I mistyped as a 1w2 sp/so.

    I always felt like I was flawed because I did not fit in and struggled socially. So, I thought that I had to achieve certain goals, win certain awards, and somehow change (although I didn’t really) to be accepted and loved. I am very emotional and I cry easily. That being said, I tend to stuff my feelings down and get to work. I am extremely sensitive to rejection, criticism, and failure. To cope with the fear of rejection, I seek out achievements and work to do be seen as productive and meaningful.
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    As an SEI, I feel compelled to type my family members and share with everyone here:
    mom - ILI 1
    sis -ILI 5w4
    bro - ILE 7

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