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    So, what type would you say the dominant type in human culture is?
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    The humanity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    The humanity!
    No.

    That is a physical group, I am referring to the concept.
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    The concept!
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    So "which type best represents that which distinguishes humanity from other ways of being?"


    Sounds like you need to read some Heidegger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    So "which type best represents that which distinguishes humanity from other ways of being?"


    Sounds like you need to read some Heidegger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian View Post
    So, what type would you say the dominant type in human culture is?
    I don't know, but sometimes I wonder if it's not its own conflictor.
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    *has a sudden urge to watch "Matchstick Men"* . . hmm.
    I think that knowing someone the way you know Gilly is not really a basis for such harsh judgment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    What harsh judgment are you referring to? I was chastising Dio for believing someone who openly admits he's not to be trusted. No judgment involved, just stating facts.

    If you want my judgment, it'd be that Gilly is begging to have someone set some boundaries, kick his butt and not let him get away with crap, but it needs to be someone that he likes and respects, and will listen to. He's at that know-it-all stage where he's not very teachable, but could really use someone he looks up to schooling him in a big way, before he sabotages himself, and self-destructs. Unfortunately it seems he's surrounded by weenies, and the only ones he wants to listen to are too busy babying and protecting him to do what would actually help the kid. Too many people are letting him get by on charm or whatever, and it's not what he needs, or is clamoring for. There's me being judgmental. Saying something that he's stated himself many times is not really a judgment at all.
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    Lightbulb Integral type of humanity?

    What is the dominant personality type of humanity?

    My preliminary conclusion is ESFP
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    Perceptions of mankind vary widely. Each quadra will have their individuals who think that everyone is that quadra. Really, all of the types are human types; if you want to talk about the personality distinction between humans and, say, deep-sea bacteria, you'll have to introduce a Theta quadra.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    Perceptions of mankind vary widely. Each quadra will have their individuals who think that everyone is that quadra. Really, all of the types are human types; if you want to talk about the personality distinction between humans and, say, deep-sea bacteria, you'll have to introduce a Theta quadra.
    We are talking about human culture and the dominant personality in the culture. If you do not know anything about humans you should try the bacterial forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    We are talking about human culture and the dominant personality in the culture. If you do not know anything about humans you should try the bacterial forums
    But should he post in the eukaryote or prokaryote sub-forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    We are talking about human culture and the dominant personality in the culture. If you do not know anything about humans you should try the bacterial forums
    Humanity isn't a culture... it's a species, with thousands or millions of cultures, depending on how you count them. (I make this distinction because a person when born doesn't necessarily have a particular culture... it isn't inherent to the species, but rather, each member of the species happens to be born into one or another.) If you want to talk about the "world culture," which would likely mean either politics or international business, then I would consider EIE, SEE and LIE the likely types. However, there are also such international things as science and medicine that would probably have a Researcher club integral type.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    What is the dominant personality type of humanity?

    My preliminary conclusion is ESFP
    It would seem so. Based on my data, the most populous types are SEEs, followed by ESEs then IEEs. However, one must remember that the more introverted a person is, the less likely they are to participate in such a poll. This terribly skews the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    It would seem so. Based on my data, the most populous types are SEEs, followed by ESEs then IEEs. However, one must remember that the more introverted a person is, the less likely they are to participate in such a poll. This terribly skews the results.
    Theoretically types who are more extraverted would be on the whole more noticed, especially one such as an SEE who is focused on making 'impact' and being the center of attention. This creates the illusion that they are more numerous, but honestly I think the world is mostly introverted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    Theoretically types who are more extroverted would be on the whole more noticed, especially one such as an SEE who is focused on making 'impact' and being the center of attention. This creates the illusion that they are more numerous, but honestly I think the world is mostly introverted.
    Well Aristotle said that humans are the social animal, meaning that in his opinion humans prefer to act in groups. Solitary humans are very rare, even monks live in groups. Only hermits are truly solitary, and there are only a few of them. Most human pastimes involve groups, parties, sports, concerts, malls, etc.
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    From the chart you posted, Empire, we can see clearly that humans are going back to monkeys. We already live sitting in front of computers. Our bones and structure is going to adapt and in some time we´ll no longer be able to stand upright anymore.

    This proves that a new humanity must be created. ****** tried it but failed in lots of points. Many philosophers have been saying this.

    Humanity is actually in my opinion unfortunately dividing in two groups: those who are going back to a bestial state, similar to primitive aboriginal tribes, and those who are going to become supermen, something beyond mediocre humanity, beings who will become lords over nature and themselves, and ultimately over death even, a whole new mindset.

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    It started with only 1 idiot in this thread. Now there are 2?!
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    This has to be the funniest, most ridiculous thread ever. I hope it doesn't die soon, so I will help out.

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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Humanity's integral type is INFj.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Humanity's integral type is INFj.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Why?
    I'll be generous. I only ask that every single person on the planet pays me 1 cent for the typing and full explanation. That is a bargain, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Humanity's integral type is INFj.
    Is this the conensus in socionics and your personal opinion Expat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    This has to be the funniest, most ridiculous thread ever. I hope it doesn't die soon, so I will help out.

    Dio is crazy if he thinks an SLE is going to 'pay up'. Always get full pre-payment, or get Se-owned.
    Reputation and the need for self respect can be very powerful motivators in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    It started with only 1 idiot in this thread. Now there are 2?!
    Please no negtivity in my threads. It disrupts the discusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    dio, are you trying to type "humanity", or "human culture" ? You seem to use these terms interchangeably. Give some form of term definition for what you mean to avoid confusion and misunderstanding.

    Also, i might have missed sth., but humanity has not been believed to be very technologically-minded. If you consider evolution and all, i'd say not technologically minded at all. Actually, according to Pinker, humanity needs to focus on technology and such (i'm using generic wordings here coz i need to go to bed) precisely coz it's at a disadvantage in that respect.
    HUMANS AS A SPECIES DON'T HAVE ONE TYPE, THEY HAVE 16. HOWEVER IT IS POSIBLE THAT ONE AMONG THE 16 IS DOMINANT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian View Post
    HUMANS AS A SPECIES DON'T HAVE ONE TYPE, THEY HAVE 16. HOWEVER IT IS POSIBLE THAT ONE AMONG THE 16 IS DOMINANT.
    Sorry Quick Subject Change Here (haha remember that!) .. How's your internet salesmanship stuff going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel View Post
    i'd say some SF or NF type at the moment, but it's a general impression. it's quite possible that the "dominant" type changes over time. antiquity seemed ST dominated, the middle ages sth else altogether, perhaps NF.

    anyway, i'm basing this on "human culture" evolution and trends - i have no statistics.

    good points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    hard question. i mean most of "humanity" is poor and in bits. the US humanity probably has some TJ type as the "most important one". NA's integral quadra is supposed to be delta/gamma from what i've heard.
    I agree completely. That might tell us something. I think that humanity is not as technologically driven as many think today (MIT for instance).
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