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Last edited by female; 07-10-2008 at 04:23 AM.
It depends on the situation... in some parts of life I'll throw some humor into everything I do... There are times to be professional and courteous to others though... I'd like to think I'm pretty good at knowing when to kick in the humor to calm people down and set the right mood for things, whether serious or not.
LII
that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
I like to think I take everything seriously, even the jokes. But maybe I don't know the meaning of the word.
Hey, reality isn't important. Let's just have fun and make sense.
Oh, I can do seriousness and intensity with zero humor, though. Comes of being a logical type. I miss my dual-seeking function, though.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
NO. You are not allowed to make sense... EVER!
And this, too, shall pass away.
ILI
I find that I usually take things a little too seriously, OR not seriously enough. Very few things fall in between for me.
For example, I make sarcastic little comments all the time. It's also a pet peeve of mine when people stress WAY too much over stupid, insignificant little things (although I don't ever let anyone know I think that, of course; I know that the importance of anything is pretty proportionate to the value you, personally, place on it. I guess the pet peeve is more about people personally placing way too much value on insignificant things).
But at the same time, I worry a lot about the efficiency of what I'm doing now and how it's going to affect me later. I also takes my internal self very seriously; I worry about whether I'm a good person, whether what I'm doing is consistent with what I believe, etc.
ISFp <3
i actually think this is true of all Ti and Fe types, but a little more apparent in creative Ti or creative Fe types. I definitely feel this way myself, but I tend to think more things in life are important in the sense that i'd get offended more than a creative fe or ti.
Heh, that's totally me. It annoys some people who take themselves too seriously. Actually, I just had one of my friends tell me that I'm a really weird person because I "think everything in life is funny." :-| I've noticed this quality in a lot of other Alpha irrationals too.
delta nf (?) ... 4w5 (?)
fuck that shit
I can be really goofy at times, and really serious at others , but most of the time I intersperse the goofyness between the seriousness(which is my prime mode of behavior) in order to soften the blows of my comments. This doesn't really come across on here(mainly because I don't really bother to soften anything over the internet unless I care about the people involved, and even when I do "soften" things it comes out in a serious way anyway), but I generally do it when I say something that is to be taken seriously as a joke, and progress onto the serious portion once people have accepted the idea without rejecting it offhand because of the nature of its contents. Yea, I think I do that.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 05:25 PM.
Suomea
If you take things completely seriously, it means you are inevitably going to cut some people (if not many) off - though those who take things completely seriously may actually prefer this, if it keeps them in a certain clique of people. I cannot understand such behaviour. I don't see how people can be born serious, and remain like this for the rest of their lives - people should see that happy and sad can be swapped round, even if this doesn't make any sense.
It's good to be happy, so they say, but being happy might make a sad person even sadder, if they believe you to be inconsiderate or indifferent to their sadness. Therefore, you should be sad all the time, just in case. But if everyone was sad all the time, it would make people even more sad, which would be bad. So, the optimum strategy is to be neither happy or sad, but to be exactly somewhere in between as calculated by some scientists. However, such an approach may be taken things too seriously. I've never really thought about it in great detail, to be honest! I wouldn't want to come across as some sort of nutjob or something! Hahaha! Ha.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
This is kinda cool, I have these feelings relatively also. At the worst possible moment, I'm saying "nice!" or "sweet.", even when the situation is not nice or sweet at all. It's a combination of lightening the mood and just seeing how ridiculous the entire thing is, which means I can joke about it? No, actually, I'm wrong there for sure. It shouldn't be joked about.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I think I'm probably very serious about the things I need to be about but really dismissive of the things I'm not (I really dislike intense emotion though). I tend to use humour a lot to lighten up a heavy situation. Sometimes its self-defacing though rather than sarcastic to anyone else. But I do it in a way it doesn't sound like self-pity but just an ability to laugh at yourself.Do you guys have a fundamental inability to take yourself and/or other people seriously?
I've been told I have kind of an Ellen Degeneris kind of sense of humour.
Polly
ENTP
Alpha humor- Death, Racism, and Poverty. A Dateline Investigative Report.
I've never understood why people think that alphas are permanently like this. I take both myself and other people seriously often and can brood about relations and worry about them quite alot - usually in relation to how I come across to other people. It's true that alphas can have a good time easily, appreciate a laugh, can enjoy talking about a whole bunch of nonsense etc -
and I am indeed prone to being a smartarse from time to time. But its painting a pretty broad stroke to portray alphas as a group of clowns or such the like. Just look at the varied descriptions of each personality type within the group rather than the overall group description and you'll get an idea of what I mean. In particular, LIIs such as myself are arguably the member of the Alpha group which least matches this particular image of alphas, whilst yourself as SEI arguably matches the 'non-serious' image the most. Perhaps you're really describing yourself more as an SEI than an alpha here. Anyway before someone flames me I'll admit I'm a socionics novice - just wanted to put in my two cents
Last edited by akeaneau; 02-24-2008 at 09:02 AM.
LII
When I see people like that, I generally treat them like kids.
It is hard for me to, go figure, take them seriously.
You can act that way, sure, but don't expect people to really trust you with important things. That perhaps is not really a problem for you, but I am saying it anyways.
I don't mind a positive mood, but when there is stuff to do, it is time to work. I guess that is why there are people like you, so as to make up for people like me.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
im thinking more of a situation where someone died, or like you got dumped by your gf. that ain't about work. Actually, in this sense the "alpha" attitude would be pro work. "there's things more important in life than your vanity, my friend." is how i see it