the dual interaction seems to be the cause of the absence of the social complex. not danielle herself.
but hey, just my opinion '-)
the dual interaction seems to be the cause of the absence of the social complex. not danielle herself.
but hey, just my opinion '-)
Thanks for sharing the material, niffweed. You can of course dismiss Jarno and me as much as you like, but at least I understand what you are talking about much better than you might think. What you describe confirms that you are an ILI, and it confirms that you have Asperger. If you want to read more about that phenomenon, here is a link that I personally like, written by a person who in many respects is rather similar to both of us: http://home.att.net/~ascaris1/index.html
if this is your way of dealing with people, then I might I know the reason why you have no friends '-)
ofcourse socially inept is a nice excuse to justify insulting... IMO you're just an arrogant idiot.
I happen to have experienced a lot dual interactions, and I can tell you, those things you describe, you would experience them with all SEE.
So it's probably not just Danielle, it's a dual thing.
Hope you understand this. probably not because of your inexperience.
Last edited by Jarno; 02-16-2008 at 11:33 PM.
god what a moron.
Heh, I guess I was lucky then, since Rick seemed to like the places I picked, both in London and Duesseldorf.
Something else -- I confess I'm at a loss at the point Jarno is making. The way I see it, niffweed's goal was to present a truthful, accurate description of his experiences in Boston, and as they relate to his life experiences so far. The interactions with Danielle were particularly worthy of reporting and so report them he did. So far, it is not even necessary to include socionics analysis one way or the other -- that can come later, if at all.
Sure, socionics does provide an explanation as to why, precisely, niffweed felt particularly comfortable when interacting with Danielle, and since they had been both independently typed as ILI and SEE, it confirms that socionics works -- unless they were consciously "forcing themselves" to be comfortable around each other as in "gee, this person is my dual, I have to be comfortable around him/her" - a notion that I mention to illustrate its ridiculousness.
But, be that as it may, I find Jarno's comment to be a bit of a stretch. The way I see it, he's essentially dismissing the relevance of Danielle and niffweed as individuals, and saying that it would have been exactly the same with any dual. That does sound to me a bit of a stretch. For instance, was reyn_til_runa feeling exactly the same way and interacting the same way as niffweed to Danielle to everyone else? Is every interaction with a dual exactly the same? Do individual personalities and circumstances play no role?
It seems to me that niffweed's point was:
"I had this interesting experience to report, with a particular person; this may provide useful information for socionics".
And then Jarno:
"The particular person was not important. It would have been exactly the same with any other SEE".
I see that as two views (and I stand corrected if wrong, but then I'd like to ask why it is wrong):
niffweed: "I met a person, Danielle, and she happens to be SEE which helps to explains our interactions".
Jarno: "You met a SEE, which explains everything. She happens to be a person called Danielle, but that's not important".
Is this an unfair analysis?
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Originally Posted by implied
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
I think in order to feel that comfortable, she needed to be at least a compatible type, and a dual worked very well for that obviously. But I don't think a person would be equally comfortable with any dual. A dual with very strong and contrary political or religious beliefs, etc., wouldn't be that great a match no matter what types the people are. They'd just argue very effectively.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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wow this is the most retarted, useless thread i think i've ever read. first of all to anyone who cares- r u kidding?!?!?!?!
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