ILE (ENTp)
SEI (ISFp)
ESE (ESFj)
LII (INTj)
SLE (ESTp)
IEI (INFp)
EIE (ENFj)
LSI (ISTj)
SEE (ESFp)
ILI (INTp)
LIE (ENTj)
ESI (ISFj)
IEE (ENFp)
SLI (ISTp)
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Margaret Thatcher
Still on the "Prime Ministers series" --
Brief clip
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rQ-M0KEFm9I
An (unfortunately edited) PM question with Margaret Thatcher.
It "takes off" after 1 min or so. Towards the end, look for the question by the LII Tony Benn.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U2f8nYMCO2I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1aZdAyHVjzQ&feature=related
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
After seeing this and the Gordon Brown thread, UK politics are sooo badass.
It's almost like watching an historical reenactment.
The videos that you've watched are mostly about important issues not the day-to-day trivial crap so, yeah I guess it would look grand and exciting.
Eh, I guess I agree.
I can see the case for that, but her argumentation in the PM questions video, both in substance and the wording she chooses, is mostly
But she seems so solid and sturdy. Most Te types I've seen seem to get flustered, but she is totally unflinching in everything she says, with an attitude of "I'm right, and to hell with you if you disagree". I think that's more ISxj than anything. IDK, I'd need to see more of her.I can see the case for that, but her argumentation in the PM questions video, both in substance and the wording she chooses, is mostly
She was known as 'the iron lady' from time to time. From what I recall she was pretty quick to hire and fire her cabinet members. She even told the then president Ronald Reagan to 'mind his own business' when he tried to disuade her from taking direct action to reclaim the falklands islands. She did understandably imo display some tearful emotion tho at the end of her term as her own party forced her out of the PM role.
Just some general extra trivia for you. Might help.
I'm not sure myself. I was inclined to type her as LIE for some time; then I thought that LSI made more sense, for many reasons. But what I see her using - with relish - in the PM questions clip is" as in showing her contempt for individuals and the Labour Party, and - but perhaps you can comment on this - she mercilessly attacks her opponents's competence on
PoLR thing to do. I do agree, though, that she shows more
than what I'd expect in a LIE, from that point of view Tony Blair is a more typical
, but she keeps coming back to "what works" as a argument. Also, in the clip about the sinking of the "General Belgrano", she is unflinching in a
What do you think of LSE. Strong Te, very aware of her senses. Apparently very patriotic, and little patience for uncertainty in decisions in her and others could suggest Ni as PoLR?
I agree, she looks ESI to me (according to the latest version of my vi model).
Last edited by astralsilky; 02-17-2008 at 05:26 PM.
Margaret Thatcher
there was a previous typing thread for her that didn't seem to get anywhere as she got typed across half the socion, so I decided to create a new one to see if there would be more consensus now
Margaret Thatcher - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher
edit: types suggested so far in this thread - LSE, LIE, EIE, LSI, SEE
Last edited by silke; 04-19-2013 at 04:35 AM.
LIE
Nothing to discuss here, she is a natural.
And Dominant subtype.
Yes. I agree.
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ESTJ
yes.
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
My housemates hate her with a passion
Sincerely Yours,
Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.
The Rebel without a cause.
ESTJ probably.
Oh no, I'm alone with my LIE typing so far! If you guys really see LSE then I advice you to watch more videos of her. She is so incredibly LIE that it's not even funny. She is really confident in Ni also, as one can see in the interviews.
RIP
RIP confirm.
I can't say it's "obvious" to me, but ENTj seems to me to be it.
May I advise a change of housemates? There be civilized people in the sceptered isle.
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
Merry type? ime ENFjs or merry types sing that no to divisiveness song ,but i think alot of deltas do that too so im not sure....
I find her both captivating and quite intimidating.
Is that how LIE's are? I'm not too familiar with the LIE phenotype, but do know a couple of individuals with a similar demeanor.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
A fun video.
This is so much more exciting now that she's dead.
"[Scapegrace,] I don't know how anyone can stand such a sinister and mean individual as you." - Maritsa Darmandzhyan
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Falklands and people over there agree as well...
I think the residents wanted to stay under British rule but i could be wrong in that assumption, just from my scattered memory. Poll tax (current day council tax?) protesters and a large percentage of the working class are pretty pleased she has passed on though.
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
That's correct. Looks like not only Scapegrace is excited, people from those islands are, as well protesters and working class
As of the 12th March 2013...
There was a turnout of more than 90% from 1,672 British citizens eligible to vote in a population of about 2,900.
Of 1,517 votes cast in the two-day referendum - on a turnout of more than 90% - 1,513 were in favour, while just three votes were against.
Latinos and their island rustling. Sometimes you've just got to sink a Belgrado or two.
^ lol, from videos she seems dynamic > static and I agree with fel that LIE is very unlikely typing for her, she lacks immediacy and familiarity for an LIE and has more of a kind of ceremoniousness going on
There's a quote flying around at the moment from Salman Rushdie, who says that, in person, she is "considerate" and "surprisingly, touchy-feely".
As long as we're not typing another Fe dom my dual, I'm fine with whatever else.
I get the feeling that she might be EIE or SEE rather than LIE. Leaning EIE.
so many different typings.
The video posted of her made me laugh.
because it looked like her top teeth were falling out.
I like the way she talks.
the man interviewing her was a diiiick.
The heroic anti-spam measures are working well I see.
"[Scapegrace,] I don't know how anyone can stand such a sinister and mean individual as you." - Maritsa Darmandzhyan
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Anti-spam measures have clearly been dialled down to encourage extra posting.
I like margaret thatcher because I agree with her policies (ironic being one of 'thatchers children' as a school teacher once put it), but also because she reminds me of my gran.
Perhaps overlooked by American's that the impact of Margaret Thatcher was to move the UK away from command economy communual-social policies to individualist, laissez faire, liberal ones. Even left wing governments which are generally 'pro-Europe' in the UK tend to find it impossible to meet the requirement even by large numbers of their own socialist supporters for extreme privacy and to drive back centralist policy making.
But it also had the consequence of shutting down many of the massive 'job creation' industries, like coal, steel and manufacturing in addition to deflating the size of the UK government and civil service thus earning a lot of hate for not continuing to subsidise unsustainable expenditure. This still continues to this day from people who feel they 'lost out'.
This had the impact of changing a UK which was the 'sick man' of Europe and looked as if it was about to collapse due to it going to the IMF for emergency money into an economy almost in parallel with Germany in less than 15 years. It has also made the UK the hotbed for anti-european centralisation but pro-european free trade.
She is also somewhat uniquely loved in both the US and Russia for bringing Gorbachev into the 'west' by stating publically 'here is someone I can do business with' and bringing him to the table with the Americans which started to process of bringing down the Iron Curtain. A strange acheivement since those cultures continuously head-butt idealogically. I don't think its a coincidence that she finally stepped aside the same day that the Berlin Wall came down.
Guido made the statement 'There is no other front page'; it's viewed as an international event in many major countries.
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