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    I've recently come to consider despite the woeful limitations of what have proven to be my determined enemies (see http://yggdraunion.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Rants_thread and http://yggdraunion.wikia.com/wiki/Speculations), that I have no pity at all for them. Rather, I see their decrept minds as virii in the collective +Fe atmosphere, to be fought against and if possible, extinguished. Like virii their prospects are as limited as their psyches... that I can tell, they exist only to afflict the larger human organism.

    Should I pity people for not having the belief in the human spirit that I do? For always living in fear or seeing the world as a harsh place? Why should I, when they are the sources of the fear? It is not a matter of a malleable environment, but of an internal disposition that will find SOMETHING to hate about the environment no matter what. They aren't victims of the world: they alone have the potential within them to be the great oppressors, the destroyers... it's an endless cycle of hate producing hate... the earlier generation foisting their contempt for tolerance and civility on the later generation, creating the hatred anew. In the end, only the disposition themselves should be blamed.

    Should I feel the slightest bit of remorse for these people who are not only destined to a tragic fate, but are their own arbiters thereof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    I've recently come to consider despite the woeful limitations of what have proven to be my determined enemies (see ), that I have no pity at all for them. Rather, I see their decrept minds as virii in the collective +Fe atmosphere, to be fought against and if possible, extinguished. Like virii their prospects are as limited as their psyches... that I can tell, they exist only to afflict the larger human organism.

    Should I pity people for not having the belief in the human spirit that I do? For always living in fear or seeing the world as a harsh place? Why should I, when they are the sources of the fear? It is not a matter of a malleable environment, but of an internal disposition that will find SOMETHING to hate about the environment no matter what. They aren't victims of the world: they alone have the potential within them to be the great oppressors, the destroyers... it's an endless cycle of hate producing hate... the earlier generation foisting their contempt for tolerance and civility on the later generation, creating the hatred anew. In the end, only the disposition themselves should be blamed.

    Should I feel the slightest bit of remorse for these people who are not only destined to a tragic fate, but are their own arbiters thereof?
    Are you being rhetorical (in the sense of not looking for an answer) or seriously seeking input?
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    You seem to forget SEE or not, they are people.

    Their "decrept minds" are not "virii". They have different values and viewpoints. They deserve to be on this rock as much as you or I.
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    It sounds like you might be trying to create a conflict in yourself and with others over something which doesn't exist. Save your energy for other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    You seem to forget SEE or not, they are people.

    Their "decrept minds" are not "virii". They have different values and viewpoints. They deserve to be on this rock as much as you or I.
    SEE has nothing to do with it. I forgot to include links to who I was talking about. See them. It's the 199.*** IP person, who I've typed as ISFj.

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    You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Unless you want to learn (and you should read through my articles on Wikisocion and in Non-socionics type theories should you desire such) then it doesn't concern you and you should stay out of it.

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    I'm sorry, I meant Fe.
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Should I feel the slightest bit of remorse for these people who are not only destined to a tragic fate, but are their own arbiters thereof?
    Why, why, why, does the inevitable always seem inevitable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    Why, why, why, does the inevitable always seem inevitable?
    Because it's inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    Because it's inevitable.
    But, even if that is true, why should we pity those who deserve pity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    But, even if that is true, why should we pity those who deserve pity?
    Because they're pitiful!
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    Isn't tcaudilllg begging the question?

    If people are destined to be assholes, then they should be pitied, because they can't help it.

    If people have agency in their assholery, then they should be pitied, because they clearly acting according to different principles to you! Heaven knows, they might actually be acting reasonably!

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    @tcaudlllig

    If your referring to an ISFj then why do you write about it as 'people'? And yes you should have posted your links.

    If you are wanting me to stay out fair enough, but why on earth would you then put it on a public forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    I've recently come to consider despite the woeful limitations of what have proven to be my determined enemies (see http://yggdraunion.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Rants_thread and http://yggdraunion.wikia.com/wiki/Speculations), that I have no pity at all for them. Rather, I see their decrept minds as virii in the collective +Fe atmosphere, to be fought against and if possible, extinguished. Like virii their prospects are as limited as their psyches... that I can tell, they exist only to afflict the larger human organism.

    Should I pity people for not having the belief in the human spirit that I do? For always living in fear or seeing the world as a harsh place? Why should I, when they are the sources of the fear? It is not a matter of a malleable environment, but of an internal disposition that will find SOMETHING to hate about the environment no matter what. They aren't victims of the world: they alone have the potential within them to be the great oppressors, the destroyers... it's an endless cycle of hate producing hate... the earlier generation foisting their contempt for tolerance and civility on the later generation, creating the hatred anew. In the end, only the disposition themselves should be blamed.

    Should I feel the slightest bit of remorse for these people who are not only destined to a tragic fate, but are their own arbiters thereof?
    If you come from the left, there will always be people coming from the right. Up, down, whatever. A plethora of possible perspectives percolate practically prompting a plentitude of patience and philanthropic perspicacity. So don't go giving up on them either.

    Living means misunderstanding and, yes, being misunderstood. You can lessen the blow but that's probably the best you can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    If you come from the left, there will always be people coming from the right. Up, down, whatever. A plethora of possible perspectives percolate practically prompting a plentitude of patience and philanthropic perspicacity. So don't go giving up on them either.

    Living means misunderstanding and, yes, being misunderstood. You can lessen the blow but that's probably the best you can do.
    I appreciate your commentary but, I still don't know what to do about them except to try to repress them. If someone has it in for me and my ideas, what do I do? How do I feel safe from them?

    Let's not beat around the bush, now: if someone thinks another person's ideas are threatening to overcome their own integrity then they will project feelings of danger and apprehension onto that person and, if they have any self-confidence at all, try to stop them. Just because we are stronger than that doesn't mean there are not those out there who aren't. (the history of persecution on basis of ideas would seem to suggest otherwise.)

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    I'd say B
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    I think he's working out something in his head... and sort of going overboard with it.

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