And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
well speaking for myself...
I've tried wearing perfume in the past but i just dont trust my ability to make sure it's applied well and/or i get sick of the smell, etc. Also most of the time i am too distracted and scattered to remember to put it on...
And no my comment was not intended to imply IEE's dont wear dresses. I wear a lot of dresses myself. it's just hard for me to dress sharply compared to others who REALLY dress sharply. In part because i value comfort too much, in part because i just dont think in the way that some of my friends do in terms of putting together outfits. i just dont think of dressing that way, i dont think about putting together outfits. But maybe that's just me... Also even if i put on heels and a tight fitting dress, i end up looking clumsy no matter how you look at it and every time i look in the mirror or see myself in a photo, something is off place and/or sitting the wrong way. But again, maybe that's just me.
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To be completely honest with you, I didn't start paying attention to my clothing, hair, or anything until age 25 / 26. My best friend was an ESFJ (MBTI - not sure of her socionics) who started vocally judging me when I tried to leave the house in jeans, a bright pink plaid shirt, sneakers, and a ponytail. It turned into a "fake it, til you make it" type ordeal, and even still, I'll go to a store and try to pick out something snazzy, and will end up looking a hot mess. But I at least try now!
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
I mostly wear a shirt and a pair of pants, and just keep it simple. If I try and do something fun but pieced together, it just doesn't seem to look polished, no matter what I do.
Example:
More often than not, I just wing it and try to carry on with as much confidence as I can about it.
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
IEE hozing itt.
Oh Shut up. This was the stupidest post I've read all day and it's kind of rude. (granted this post is more rude), but whatever. I like her and if she says she's IEE, then she's IEE. How someone gets dressed up or lack thereof IS NOT TYPE RELATED.
*edit* so after I wrote this..I then scrolled down and saw other people had also said not type related and you wrote a post stating that maybe it wasn't as well. so. I feel better about it. but still..those kinds of pushy blanket comments annoy me to no end. Sorry for being a butthead.
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But it is. Very much so, though sure there are deviations.
The difference is more often than not quite striking between Si and Se valuing types. I can't always put my finger on it, but it's there.
I'm with @WorkaholicsAnon on this. (I revel in good perfume, though. Conflicted about high heels - don't wear them but they may actually do some good for my spine so it is subject to change.)
True.Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
I generally dislike going with the general consensus but i have to agree re:NTR business. I can absolutely see an IEE involving the help of others to look 'polished' in a conventional way because you think it will make someone happy... i'd definately do that. I once had professional make-up for a birthday... ok so it was a present from an ESFJ friend but i really enjoyed it, (it was tedious) but interesting. I think i have had some 'killer' outfits... maybe not standard fashion, or trendy but my own style and i have felt that others have interpreted it so.
Things like a little house on the prarie dress with dm's and red lipstick...well anyway, in my younger years.
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
Look there are two kind of people in this forum the ones who get pissed when you question their type and the ones who like advice in that. I count myself to the later. Applejacks is obviously still looking for her type.
You see it as a friendly gesture not to question someones type but it doesn't make sense to trust someones self typing more when you like the person...
Oh believe me. All your advice is appreciated, but no matter how hard I try, I just don't have a knack for it. So, I usually just stick to one shirt, one pair of pants, earrings. Or I enlist my ESFJ friend, who then puts me in something very uncomfortable, and which I promptly take off.
EDIT: Or I rob a mannequin.
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
Oh hummm... am now remembering the disagreement i had with the make up artist re: lipstick, she said my eyes were the feature and i could only have one feature and i should have nude lispstick... ewks! Nude lipstick just looks bizarre to me... almost antiflesh.. so i asked for pinky lipstick... she was not impressed but eventually could see that i would not budge on it and begrudgingly applied it.... i have picture... (me on right)
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This was me polished by others (though i did chose the outfit myself)
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
I see how you came to your conclusion, but it's not that her type was questioned that pissed me off ( really what benefit or care would I get from someone else's typing) it was how WA worded it, the way she does often which is as a stated in my post, a pushy generalized blanket statement: she likes to give her opinions and word them as if she knows someone's exact motive, and usually comes off as if she pretends to know someone more than they know themselves. That, sir, it what annoys me.
If it is type related.. Then I learned something new today?
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
I'm entitled to my gut feeling and my opinion. And I'm allowed to express it. I wasn't the only one who cast some doubt on the self-typing. IMO it's stupid to not question each other, especially when thought process is explained so that it can be discussed. How else will growth occur? Anyway, unlike you, at least 3 people found my post constructive.
ok.
*edit* so after I wrote this..I then scrolled down and saw other people had also said not type related and you wrote a post stating that maybe it wasn't as well. so. I feel better about it. but still..those kinds of pushy blanket comments annoy me to no end. Sorry for being a butthead.
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why is it that you seem to frequently have a problem with the way i word things? When such is the case I think the problem rests more with you, in terms of how you are perceiving what i say. Sucks for you to be walking around pissed off every time i say something. Life is hard for people when they are always pissed off about every little thing.
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And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
Oh. Well in that case...
vampire: no
insanity: 1) I'm IEE, and 2) you're my dual. You figure it out
As for fashion... I realize I'm hopeless, but try to distract with fun and conversation.
LOOK, a Batman Moonbounce! "KAPOW!"
EDIT: After thinking about this moonbounce, I'd be disappointed if there wasn't some sort of blow-up Joker villian in there to punch.
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
This has been somewhat of a frustration for me, at least when I was younger. It's fun to dress and glamor up, but I never reach the stage where I feel polished and I am always certain that it will all fall apart within
an hour. I always feel the need to ask someone "does this look ok"? I think that's why I like somewhat dramatic little things (big necklace or bold color or funky shoes or, fairly rarely these day, bold make-up) - they make me feel as if I am stepping out of the "polished" conventions and can be a bit more me (less pressure). I don't know.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
YES! I have a few bold pieces that I've collected that I'll pull out with the hopes of having something that "pops" (and distracts from my lack of polish).
Honestly, if I'm feeling exceptionally happy and can connect with a clothing store clerk, I'll straight out ask them for help in picking outfits for me.
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
I'll help you pick your outfits applejacks, if you help me pick my girlfriends.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I have delicate tastes, it's true.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
IEE = SLI sex toy.
Absolutely. Nothing like an entirely calm "chill out babe" to snap me out of neurotic hysteria.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuBwxePS-s0
<3
Last edited by Kim; 09-12-2013 at 01:58 AM.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin