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    It seems that INFps have the capability to manipulate other peoples' attitudes towards each other. Any Experiences with this?

    An extreme example is of course ****** and is hate mongering.

    Much more positive examples are writers, such as Selman Rushdie, Shakespeare, etc.
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian View Post
    It seems that INFps have the capability to manipulate other peoples' attitudes towards each other. Any Experiences with this?

    An extreme example is of course ****** and is hate mongering.

    Much more positive examples are writers, such as Selman Rushdie, Shakespeare, etc.
    Most socionists agree ****** was EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian View Post
    It seems that INFps have the capability to manipulate other peoples' attitudes towards each other.
    *nods* It feels a bit like being a moderator, letting everybody just be themselves as long as they don't overwhelm anyone else's right to be themselves. I don't tell anyone what to think or feel, but will attempt to "correct" (moderate) behaviour when two people aren't balanced. It usually works by letting someone see things from a different perspective.

    For instance, my grandfather suffers from dementia (pretty severe already), but my grandmother cannot accept that and doesn't know how to deal with it, which annoys the hell out of my mother. So, my mother is continuously trying to beat some "sense" into her and my grandmother always tries to deny it, coming up with all kinds of other "random" explanations. (I think they have a supervisor relationship.) For instance, when my grandfather is disoriented and restless, to my mom that's a symptom of dementia, but to my gran it's the character of his father showing up or something. Anyway, they were both totally frustrated and hurt, so I explained to my mom that gran is simply having difficulty to say goodbye to the man she has lived with for more than 50 years, which you can tell when we all go visit him (he lives in a home); when we're about to leave she always lets someone else take him back to his room or to the dinner table and never does that herself. And now my mother is showing a lot more patience and they're both feeling a lot better. There's still some frustration from time to time since neither has given up their feelings and their thoughts about the whole thing, but generally they are more relaxed. And my grandmother does know he has dementia, because, expressed in her own words, "he tends to forget things". I keep my mother up to date on things like that.

    I've done stuff like this for as long as I can remember. As a kid on the school playground I could let all kinds of different cliques accept each other to play some game together and stuff.

    Another example is this: "Well, obviously you don't really like him very much, which is fine, we can't all get along with everyone, but your constantly pointing that out is making him less useful to us than he normally would be, since it obviously distracts him and he's getting less work done than he normally would."

    I think this is an example of how strong Fi is used by an INFp without actually valuing it. Personally I don't really care about how people think of each other, but I do care about how they treat each other. Hmm, actually I do care about how they think of each other, but less so than how they treat each other.

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    The most unusual thing I ever stole? A snowman. Midnight. He looked magnificent; a tall, white mute beneath the winter moon. I wanted him, a mate with a mind as cold as the slice of ice within my own brain. I started with the head.

    Better off dead than giving in, not taking what you want. He weighed a ton; his torso, frozen stiff, hugged to my chest, a fierce chill piercing my gut. Part of the thrill was knowing that children would cry in the morning. Life's tough.

    Sometimes I steal things I don't need. I joy-ride cars to nowhere, break into houses just to have a look.I'm a mucky ghost, leave a mess, maybe pinch a camera. I watch my gloved hand twisting the doorknob. A stranger's bedroom. Mirrors. I sigh like this - Aah.

    It took some time. Reassembled in the yard, he didn't look the same. I took a run and booted him. Again. Again. My breath ripped out in rags. It seems daft now. Then I was standing alone among lumps of snow, sick of the world.

    Boredom. Mostly I'm so bored I could eat myself. One time, I stole a guitar and thought I might learn to play. I nicked a bust of Shakespeare once, flogged it, but the snowman was the strangest. You don't understand a word I'm saying, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Hahahahaha, does anyone else see the humor in this?
    yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    Hahahahaha, does anyone else see the humor in this?
    Hehe.... maybe? Are you just saying that manipulating people can never be done for good?
    Suomea

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