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    Psychologists agree that we all have some pattern for handwriting.

    Write naturally something. Whatever. But naturally, as you're taking notes, not as you're doing an exam.

    For example :

    - Rational types tend to write curves as they were lines (thus making lowercase A and E letters unreadable)
    - Irrational types tend to write lines as they were curves

    - Sensing types tend to write more Arial-like, especially
    - Intuitive types tend to write more doctor-like, especially

    and so on.

    Any other ideas ??? It's a way to assess types... If you have some hesitations, mainly between J/P, you can type yourself just by reading your notes or writing something.

    Already collected handwritings from :

    - ESE
    - ESI
    - SEE
    - SEI

    - IEI
    - IEE
    - EIE
    - EII

    - SLE

    - LII
    - ILE
    - LIE

    missing : LSE, LSI, SLI, ILI
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    I want to see some scientific evidence for this first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I want to see some scientific evidence for this first.
    http://www.ennea.org/subscribe.html

    Check out the sample issues. They include articles on handwriting.

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    I'm somewhat curious about this, we could test it ourselves!
    My handwriting looks like a kid's (c:
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    I've played tic-tac-toe against a chicken in Vegas, his lines were more straight than I could ever do. I only bring up this fact because my mother used to say I write like "chicken scratch" and now that I've seen a chicken actually write, I feel my handwriting is worse than I had initially thought.


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    I've read three books on handwriting analysis and they seem to have about as much basis in studies as socionics or MBTI, etc ... one of the books specifically dealt with handwriting analysis (almost shortened it to HA but that might be misread here) for the purposes of criminal investigation.
    There are points that strike me as too specific, such as forming "e"s a certain way means a certain thing about you ... but trends seem easier to pin correspondences to, such as how wide or narrow your left & right margins are (on unlined paper).
    I like it as more of a fun thing - my friends & I have exchanged HW samples and taken turns seeing what the book says about each other. There were striking coincidences, but also things that didn't ring true either to the person in question or to the rest of us as observers of the PIQ.

    I'd also like to rebut, since I saw somewhere else that SLI's supposedly have horrible handwriting, that mine is great. My Mom will actually save up cards in which she wants to send a handwritten note, so she can dictate them to me!
    Another random tidbit that just occurred to me: my Dad, who LII, always writes in all caps ...
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    We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.
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    lol @ cracka

    My ex, ISTp, wrote in tiny manuscript letters, rather spaced out. I'd actually describe his writing as 'kid-like' too. It was kind of cute, albeit painstaking
    Waaaaay too slow for me. I can't stand writing in manuscript or all capitals. Mine's a mish-mash of cursive, and is pretty legible. My handwriting changes with my mood, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    perhaps we should all post images of our handwriting... and see if there are patterns. This would be difficult because first I'd have to write something, and then I'd have to scan it, and then I'd have to jpg it, and then I'd have to stick it in photobucket, and then I'd have to copy the link, and then I'd have to post it, as you see the process is exhausting.



    This was a funny thing though, when I write at work it's like notes and such, other than that I use a keyboard for everything anymore. This might be the longest thing I've written in YEARS actually...hahaha.

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    Fixed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Cracka, I do not have a camera, or access to one.
    hmm, well. that sux and now makes my post somewhat irrelevant. well... my handwriting is still there... but yeah, we already knew about the whole chicken scratch thing a bit ago...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I liked the "insert smiley" part.
    Did you notice the edited version...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    Heh, not so great at the picture taking. Some examples of how my handwriting gets when notetaking though:
    I just learned a bit about flying and killed my neck all at the same time. *note to self* pick up laptop and put on its side next time...lol

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    @Diana: my ESI father pretty much writes like this.

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    Some notes (of mine) at a philosophy lesson.
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    i've also read books on handwriting analysis. Cracka, yours looks a little like an entp i knew. Diana, i notice most your uniform, wide spacing and slant. It's pretty.

    Edit: Loki my handwriting looks kinda like yours! except yours is more compact, mine is more long and spindly.
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    The first one is mine - ENFp
    Second one is coworker's - ENFj
    *bonus quasi-identical comparison*

    http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/h...00-4936357.jpg
    http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/h...00-4936355.jpg

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    From a female SEE teacher


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    My handwriting is very similar to Diana's
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    I'm afraid that I do not have scanner or a convenient camera for photos, but I will say that on a superficial glance that my handwriting would be somewhat of a mix between that of Loki's, Subterranean's, and maybe Slacker Mom's.
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    @ Slacker Mom - Our handwriting's not terribly similar, but I do have a tendency to use two different styles of capitals in the same paragraph as well, like the way you write your 'I' two different ways. I leave the tails off my 'y's, but not my 'g's and you leave them off your 'g's, but not your 'y's...haha

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    lol, mine looks like a slightly neater version of herzy's.
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    i cant seem to find the appropriate USB cable to connect my scanner. god knows where it got to.

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    This is the best I could do for now... I don't have a (working) scanner:




    I think it looks kind of girly and . I used to write in all caps and really small, but that took too long when taking notes so I switched to cursive. Sometimes I go back to printing caps.
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    Example of an ENFj's handwriting. She was being silly and wrote in my notebook in Spanish.

    It translates as "You are burning yourself in the house. Oh my God"

    Then my handwriting:

    D-SEI 9w1

    This is me and my dual being scientific together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    This is the best I could do for now... I don't have a (working) scanner:




    I think it looks kind of girly and . I used to write in all caps and really small, but that took too long when taking notes so I switched to cursive. Sometimes I go back to printing caps.
    is that SLI or SEI ?

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    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...1&d=1201744500

    I don't really know how to post photos here.....
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    IEI-Fe 4w3

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    is that SLI or SEI ?
    Neither. I'm IEI.

    Here's a picture of the printing I was talking about - I find I tend to write in print when I'm using pencil mostly, and use cursive with ballpoint or rollerball pen:


    Notice the inconsistencies in the "I"s (only the first-person "I" seems to have serifs) - but it's a bit more legible I think.
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    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    Ok guys, so what if your handwriting changes? Mine changes all the time....sometimes it's really small and compressed and sometimes it's all over the page.........the size changes too, like if I write a sentence, the end word may be bigger or smaller than the beginning one.
    maybe its an indication that you're a very dynamic dynamic... or something

    Seeing people's handwriting is very interesting! Here is mine...



    But it gets messier as I get bored/restless:

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    I don't particularly like my handwriting. It's uneven and ill-controlled and misshapen.

    Here's me writing an outline to myself -



    And here's some notes I took last Friday during a meeting -



    I apologize for the poor quality of the first one. It seems that pen ink does not photograph as well as pencil. I'd have scanned them, but my drivers are missing and I'm not sure where to find them.
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    your handwriting has character... and mind me asking what that meeting was for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    your handwriting has character... and mind me asking what that meeting was for?
    Leadership was the general gist of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Leadership was the general gist of it.
    I never would have guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I never would have guessed.
    What can I say - I work for an ENFj. She's all about inspiring and motivating and would like us to do the same. That wasn't her I was taking notes from, though, but a guest she brought in.

    Did you want clarification on anything specific?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    What can I say - I work for an ENFj. She's all about inspiring and motivating and would like us to do the same. That wasn't her I was taking notes from, though, but a guest she brought in.

    Did you want clarification on anything specific?
    I wanted to know why you were attending a meeting about leadership and how you felt about it - but that last post says most of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I wanted to know why you were attending a meeting about leadership and how you felt about it - but that last post says most of it
    I enjoyed it, actually, for the most part. I like where I work and I like her as a person. And I liked the topic of discussion. The guy brought up some good points for me to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I enjoyed it, actually, for the most part. I like where I work and I like her as a person. And I liked the topic of discussion. The guy brought up some good points for me to consider.
    ah really, that's cool then

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    Ok, here's mine
    Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .



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