Missing the point/big picture

[Ms. Kensington]

I looked for a bit on the forum for a post that I believe was authored by Kristiina in response to Expat, and it said that she felt that his post was weird because she often feels that Te people are nit picking and missing the point or the bigger picture of what she's trying to say, then Expat responded to Kri that this (perception) is a result of a misdefinition of intuition in some original function descriptions. You can correct me and link others if I mis-stated.

I always wanted to talk about this subject. I think the key phrase is "what she's trying to say".. because not only would that be affected by one's quadra values but also the way it's being stated. I'd love to hear some experiences and their explanations here.

[meatburger]

That's interesting. . . I've complained also about people missing the big picture, and being too nitpicky, but didn't associate it with Te, heh. So perhaps it is more an issue of seeing different things/focusing on different things out of the same piece of information. Those that miss the "big picture" are perhaps keying in on things other than what you're trying to communicate.

Yeah thats exactly how i can see Ti. Focusing on points that to me are irrelivant. Like if im telling a story about a bar, sometimes they might want info on what bar it was, where i dont think its important. It would only be important if that bar had unique features important to the story

[Logos]

Yeah thats exactly how i can see Ti. Focusing on points that to me are irrelivant. Like if im telling a story about a bar, sometimes they might want info on what bar it was, where i dont think its important. It would only be important if that bar had unique features important to the story

And that's not a Te question?

[meatburger]

And that's not a Te question?

haha. i actually forsaw that reply. I meant Ti types seem to want more of this information from me than Te types, in my opinion.

[Logos]

haha. i actually forsaw that reply. I meant Ti types seem to want more of this information from me than Te types, in my opinion.

It may not be relevant to your point, but it may be information which the Ti type may want to store up for later or for purposes other than the point you are making.

[Phaedrus]

haha. i actually forsaw that reply. I meant Ti types seem to want more of this information from me than Te types, in my opinion.

No. Te types want more of this kind of information. And Logos is right -- it is a Te question.

[Ezra]

It's far easier to affirm a person of your own quadra's explanation of something than it is to do the same with another person, especially a person of the opposite quadra to yours. Thinking, both Ti and Te, are all about nitpicking. It's part of arguing. If you haven't got a good argument, nitpick. It's about creating a perfect explanation for something. Ti egos use this method to describe every worldly phenomena as crisply as possible. Te dominants do it because Ti is in their super ego.

Essentially, the interplay between Expat and Kristiina is this: Kristiina points something out, and Expat uses ignoratio elenchi. Now, why he does this is simply because he has no regard for Ti, and doesn't understand the Fe elements of what Kristiina says as well as, for example, an IEI would. Kristiina, on the other hand, does not utilise Te elements in her argument, as this isn't one of her strong points. Nor does she care for Fi, if that is the case, so an ESI, for example, may be at a loss as to what her argument is about.