
Originally Posted by
reyn_til_runa
so Fe/Ne would be possible implications of Te/Se?
Maybe? Fe and Ne are implicit, and Te and Se are explicit. Both Fe and Te get information from Se, Si, Ne, and Ni though. What I mean to say is that in a way, there doesn't have to be a direct relationship between Te and Fe (and Se and Ne), but in a way, they're all connected. We all use all of our functions.
provide structural outline for the Ne/Fe implications. clearly, if Te gathered instead that she was vanishing into thin air, as opposed to physicallly, intentionally leaving the room, Ne/Fe information would change accordingly?
To expand on what I was saying above:
I think that information initially comes to you through irrational information elements, particularly external irrational information elements, Se and Si. Ne and Ni provide additional information. Then Te, Ti, Fe, and Fi process the information.
is it necessary to include Fi information in Ne? that is to say, is the implied question "why is she mad?" necessary?
Well, aside from the whole "we all use all of our functions" thing, no. The example is simply a rather Fi/Fe heavy one, pretty much because it makes it easier for me to come up with the Fi and Fe aspects.
the first part seems a bit unclear to me. for what you said about Si, in the first example i see something like if x1, then y1 (direct link between two separate objects (x and y / cat and girl). for example 2, i see if x1, then x2 (a direct link between an action upon oneself (x) and how that affects one's state. for example 3, i see that person a is yelling loudly, presumably at person b, which is affecting my ability to hear what another person (c) is saying. in other words, i see slight variation between your examples, which makes me wonder if i am seeing what you intended or am getting off track.
Si is about physical or immediate cause and effect relationships in events.
"If she opens the door right now, the cat may escape from the house."Cat wanting to go outside, door opening, cat running outside.
"If she storms out without her coat, she's going to be cold."Girl not putting on coat, girl leaving, girl being outside, girl being cold.
"I can't hear what my friend is saying because she's yelling so loudly."Friend talking, me listening, girl being louder than friend is talking, not being able to hear friend.
Whether an information aspect is static/dynamic, it still deals indirectly with the other. Everything changes, including states. States cannot exist without some type of event before, after, and between. Also, events cannot exist without there being states that change accordingly.