Natalie Portman

[implied]

I mentioned this to Expat after watching a video of you that Hugo sent me a long time ago. Similar voice and face, etc. I think you're both INFp.

wtf @ hugo sending you videos?

[Ms. Kensington]

haha.

yes she graduated from harvard with a psychology degree. I doubt she learned about socionics.

[discojoe]

wtf @ hugo sending you videos?

I have no idea. It's totally unsolicited.

[xyz]

Maybe he really really really likes discojoe

[Garmonbozia]

haha.

yes she graduated from harvard with a psychology degree. I doubt she learned about socionics.

I sure hope that she did not.

[Ms. Kensington]

by the way, the pink in your avatar is brilliant.

[astralsilky]

I thought we had a thread on her already. Cannot find it via search. Oh well.



Any thoughts?

I see Ne and Fi; not sure which is dominant.

[Exodus]

This is why a lot of "VI" is bullshit. You've just picked one still picture that looks INTj-ish. It doesn't even capture the full extent of Natalie Portman's personality. It's a pose. She was probably encouraged to look that way by the photographer.

That's not fair. Most of her pictures look a lot like that - the same kind of deer-in-the-headlights look, or pensive.

[astralsilky]

That's not fair. Most of her pictures look a lot like that - the same kind of deer-in-the-headlights look, or pensive.

If nothing else, she definitely has the Ne forehead.

[Exodus]

I agree with you regarding the deer-in-the-headlights look, but why did you conclude that that necessarily points to INTj in her case?

Well, I did say INFp was possible too. It's a typical look for intuitive introverts; like someone's more in their head than trying to actively engage their surroundings or the camera.

I'm starting to think INTj makes a lot more sense than INFp, despite the kind of Fe silliness she sometimes has in videos.

Randomly selected interview: http://movies.about.com/od/closer/a/closernp112804.htm

This interview has lots of Ti, Ne, and Ni in it:

"It’s an arbitrary distinction between adult and child."
"I didn’t think it was crucial to the scene."
"these aren’t epitomes or types that represent their entire sex."
" It was a big chunk of my life...as with all phases in life..."
" I really love acting, but I just want to do interesting things, not just through my characters. So there's many things I'd like to explore and try and see."

[Christy B]

If nothing else, she definitely has the Ne forehead.

I think I have the Ne forhead!!!

[Creepy-bg]

hot as fuck

[Park]

also, hot to fuck

[Ritella]

haven't watched her interviews. i've seen her briefly in real life. i would guess ILI > IEI.

[Elro]

haven't watched her interviews. i've seen her briefly in real life. i would guess ILI < IEI.

Why?

[Ritella]

oops. sorry, i spaced.
basically she had this really subdued vibe that i associate with ILIs. i didn't even notice her until my friend pointed her out. she seemed sort of unaware of people/things around her and didn't seem to care that much about her own appearance/image. she was wearing really muted colors (grey, dark green, brown) and had a really casual appearance.

[Steve]

She's always seemed Alpha NT to me, and I do think this comes out more in interviews. I'd go with Ti ENTp. She's a bit awkward in a way I've seen Alpha NTs act when put on the spot.

[Saoshyant]

ENFp

[Marie84]

I still say probably ILI. I remember reading a pychology research article she contributed to (at the time I didn't know it was her, she went under her original surname) and I got a Te vibe from it; very much about observatory data and little to no hypothetical input.
Her demeanor seems what I'd expect from a level headed ILI as well, not that this is anything more than personal observation

[neverthesame]

VIs ISTj.

[Singu]

This has got to be Beta... the "Natalie Portman rap":

Portman: Yo shut the f*** up and suck my d**k
I bust in dudes mouth like gushers mother f***er
roll up on NBC and smack the s**t outta Jeff Zucker

Guys: What you want Natalie
Portman: to drink and fight
Guys: what you need Natalie
Portman: to f*** all night!

...

Portman: All the kids lookin’ up to me can suck my d**k
It’s Portman mother f***er
drink till I’m sick
slit your throat
and poor nitrous down the hole
watch you laugh and cry
while I laugh you die
and all the dudes
you know I’m talkin to you
Guys: we love you natalie
Portman: I wanna f*** you too
P is for portman
P is for <meow>
I’ll kill your f**in dog for fun so don’t push me

Funny...

[717495]

Has a sort of Audrey Hepburn'ish look to her

Agree, but I associate Natalie Portman with Audrey Hepburn in VI because they both have the Alpha irrational look. Just Portman has a deader more logical look to her, and she doesn't look all that lost and unaware, I think she's extroverted. I'm quite sure that she VIs as ENTp.

[Singu]

Yes. No, I think the point is, whenever a Beta gets the chance, they will act "weird" and "rebel", especially in public (notice I said "act"... it doesn't necessarily mean that they ARE weird or crazy, they just act it. Otherwise Betas are mostly "normal"). I can't see say, an SEE doing something like that, that is, "acting out" and not just be genuinely crazy or off-the-walls a la Britney Spears. I find that Gammas and Deltas are especially well-behaved in public, probably because they feel more "socially responsible" than say, Betas. The "Society" IS Te-Fi, I think, which the Fe-Ti constantly rebel against.

The fact that you called her "a tryhard dumbass" may be saying something about your type and your Quadra. I would think that most Betas would find it hilarious, for whatever the reason. It is just not totally serious, at all. It's clearly just for fun.

[717495]

Yes. No, I think the point is, whenever a Beta gets the chance, they will act "weird" and "rebel", especially in public (notice I said "act"... it doesn't necessarily mean that they ARE weird or crazy, they just act it. Otherwise Betas are mostly "normal"). I can't see say, an SEE doing something like that, that is, "acting out" and not just be genuinely crazy or off-the-walls a la Britney Spears. I find that Gammas and Deltas are especially well-behaved in public, probably because they feel more "socially responsible" than say, Betas. The "Society" IS Te-Fi, I think, which the Fe-Ti constantly rebel against.

The fact that you called her "a tryhard dumbass" may be saying something about your type and your Quadra. I would think that most Betas would find it hilarious, for whatever the reason. It is just not totally serious, at all. It's clearly just for fun.

I don't exactly agree with that distinction, although I could probably explain it better now than what I earlier said here http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post673798. I still think Britney Spears is an ISFp. Although the other piece of that puzzle is that usually "crazy" things aren't going to be said or done with people of a conscience when it comes to Fi types. Usually they're just as humane. People of different types aren't going to differ so much in that regard, which is I'm sure what Ashton is saying.

[krieger]

Another vote in for INTp.

[Beautiful sky]

ISFj

[717495]

ISFj

ENTp

[Marie84]

This has got to be Beta... the "Natalie Portman rap":

YouTube - Natalie Portman Uncensored Rap



Funny...

I srsly hope you're not using an SNL skit as a basis for type

[eunice]

Duals tend to look alike imo.....People have thought that I am Si-ESXj, and those I have known irl thought that I remind them of others (friends, acquaintances or celebrities whom I have typed as Si-ESTj or Si-ESFj).

As such, I don't find it surprising that Portman (Ti-ENTp) and Hepburn (Fe-INFp) share some similarities in terms of physical appearance.

[Suz]

Duals tend to look alike imo.....People have thought that I am Si-ESXj, and those I have known irl thought that I remind them of others (friends, acquaintances or celebrities whom I have typed as Si-ESTj or Si-ESFj).

As such, I don't find it surprising that Portman (Ti-ENTp) and Hepburn (Fe-INFp) share some similarities in terms of physical appearance.

My thoughts exactly!!!

[Singu]

I srsly hope you're not using an SNL skit as a basis for type

Yeah, it's probably not a very good indication. But it's like you know... I'm just saying. Who would agree to do something like that, especially someone as moderately as renounced as her?

[Suz]

Yeah, it's probably not a very good indication. But it's like you know... I'm just saying. Who would agree to do something like that, especially someone as moderately as renounced as her?

an Fi-POLR with Fe-HA.

Saw another multi-part interview with her on youtube where she had multiple Fi-slips, and obnoxious Fe reactions ("In the Actor's Studio" from 2004 if anyone cares to look it up).

I agree with ENTp for her.

[marooned]

This is going to perhaps sound weird (and oddly it's actually based on "VI" to an extent) but I was wondering about EII.

I can see Ni dominance as quite plausible, but when I was watching interviews with her on youtube, a lot of just her mannerisms just kept reminding me of an EII I know (and it goes beyond that, and I'm feeling faithless about trying to flesh it out more, but maybe I will get around to it).

[Blaze]

ENTp

yepper. you've convinced me. she does have a deader logical look lol.

plus that vid was off the hook. it went too far.

[marooned]

yepper. you've convinced me. she does have a deader logical look lol.

plus that vid was off the hook. it went too far.

if Alpha NT though, I would go with LII>>>>>>>>>>ILE.

[Blaze]

if Alpha NT though, I would go with LII>>>>>>>>>>ILE.

really? i think LII would be more artistic or something than that video was. the video seemed sort of "Office-like".....kinda like michael. lol

ever notice that her head is absolutely gigantic? like way too big for her body? it's a trip.

[Blaze]

an Fi-POLR with Fe-HA.

Saw another multi-part interview with her on youtube where she had multiple Fi-slips, and obnoxious Fe reactions ("In the Actor's Studio" from 2004 if anyone cares to look it up).

I agree with ENTp for her.

you're not a big fan of us are you. lol

[marooned]

really? i think LII would be more artistic or something than that video was. the video seemed sort of "Office-like".....kinda like michael. lol

ever notice that her head is absolutely gigantic? like way too big for her body? it's a trip.

are you going off the uncensored rap vid? anyway i would have difficulty buying her as any extrovert type for the most part. i think she looks like an intuitive introvert of some sort. also i mean i really don't see Ne lead...

ENTp can work if she's "Ti-ENTp" as I understand it, because that's referring to the Ti sub in a sense that is ENTp but with the IJ temperament as I understand it, so it does actually fundamentally agree that she's not an EP.

[Blaze]

are you going off the uncensored rap vid? anyway i would have difficulty buying her as any extrovert type for the most part. i think she looks like an intuitive introvert of some sort. also i mean i really don't see Ne lead...

ENTp can work if she's "Ti-ENTp" as I understand it, because that's referring to the Ti sub in a sense that is ENTp but with the IJ temperament as I understand it, so it does actually fundamentally agree that she's not an EP.

why do you see her as introverted.

[Creepy-bg]

she's hot. big head and all.