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    What do you think of his type?






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    probably ESTj, but possible ENTj.

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    I-m pretty certain he s ESTj.
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    he LOOKS really ESTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    probably ESTj, but possible ENTj.
    I'm sick of these MBTT typings. They're so illogical when used in socionics

    How can he possibly be Si PoLR and possibly Si creative? There's no sense in it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    maybe this is an example:

    i remember Lance writing that his earlier races were won with relatively less finnese - more so, he just pushed himself to do longer, more intense periods of high speed, instead of more conservatively approaching his pace.

    was it more so because he was willing to endure and ignore discomfort? (perhaps Te-base + Se-HA against Si POLR.) or was it because he was more in tune with how cycling affected his sensations? (perhaps strong Si.)

    3rd option: physiology isn't very socionics-related.

    but i think it stands to reason - it's not impossible for opposing function blocings to produce similar behavior. may be even more difficult to discern if someone is most famous for a narrow range of behavior. (e.g. their sport)
    He was just younger. I'm still very young, but I cant' and probably don't want to speed the same way as when I was 18 (also because I recognize that doing that would just destroy me on the longer term). And this is pretty common in cycling as you gain experience you know better which pace you can stand for hours; instead when younger you tend to know your body less and thus push without forethought. Imho.
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    I once watched a couple short videos of him and thought LSI seemed most likely. Before that I had thought LSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I'm sick of these MBTT typings. They're so illogical when used in socionics

    How can he possibly be Si PoLR and possibly Si creative? There's no sense in it at all.
    this wasn't an MBTT typing. I was proposing the Te base idea; I haven't looked into him enough to know his creative or polr.

    and model A isn't absolute truth, remember that...

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    *Bump*


    I'm more curious about his type considering the major controversy he just caused:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ntary/1661751/

    Imo, I'm typing him 3w2 so/sp for enneatype and instinctual stacking, but not sure on his socionics type. The typings in this thread seem plausible though.
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    LSI

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    So, Sheryl Crow LSE
    Lance SLI makes the most sense.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    LSE!
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    LSE!
    what? what do you type sheryl crow?
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    what? what do you type sheryl crow?

    I dunno, his dual? Delta NF?
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    ESTj looks right...
    MBTI people typed him as INTJ, which is ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkworker View Post
    ESTj looks right...
    MBTI people typed him as INTJ, which is ridiculous
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.
    I meant the substance of INTJ, not the MBTI description.
    The real INTJ person and socionics ESTj are totally different.
    But I can see what you mean, the INTJ description is based on Te of INTJ too much, so it looks similar to ESTJ(Te dominant)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.
    I agree. My Te-ESTj mentor types INTJ in MBTI.
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    He's introverted.

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    i've typed Lance Armstrong LSI, but that's open to editing.
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    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.
    He drinks Pepsi, you drink Diet Coke for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.

    ditto.
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    ha ha close. I drink Zero
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    He's not a likable person and has not been for as long as I can recall, including when I lived in Austin, where he was venerated. He has always seemed like a dickweed to me, although I respected his achievements in the past. I guess my point is that getting the heebie-jeebies from him is probably NTR.

    As for his type, xxTj seems pretty clear, I know that the socionix gallery has him down as an ISTj, Ti sub; if he's LSI I could see him only as a rational sub, but frankly in watching a talking-head video of him I don't see some of the characteristics I expect from the type. For those who type him LSI, I'm interested in knowing why, beyond just not liking him. In particular, I have never noted anything about him that seems Ni-valuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COMFINED View Post
    He's not a likable person and has not been for as long as I can recall, including when I lived in Austin, where he was venerated. He has always seemed like a dickweed to me, although I respected his achievements in the past. I guess my point is that getting the heebie-jeebies from him is probably NTR.
    Interesting I've never been big on the whole issue of Lance, I've mainly just ignored the hype. I'm wondering what stuff in specific gives you the heebie-jeebies about him?

    Like is it the fact he's introverted and not engaging/personal enough, or is it a kind of hyper-competitive thing, or is it something else? I'm just curious because I've never really followed the hype and it seems like you have a more long term dislike of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Interesting I've never been big on the whole issue of Lance, I've mainly just ignored the hype. I'm wondering what stuff in specific gives you the heebie-jeebies about him?

    Like is it the fact he's introverted and not engaging/personal enough, or is it a kind of hyper-competitive thing, or is it something else? I'm just curious because I've never really followed the hype and it seems like you have a more long term dislike of him.
    It's not introversion, he just has always seemed very arrogant and hard, and his vibe was kind of "Westlake Hills nouveau-riche thinks-he's-better-than-you-but-still-tacky," which is a type of person I never tolerated well. I never heard any stories of him being a real Austinite and just hanging out or supporting anything truly local apart from stuff that served his own interests or that was named after him. :\ Instead I heard people complain about him acting like an asshole. But mainly it's just the vibe pure and simple, there is nothing there that seems likable.
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    If he weren't Ni valuing he'd have no way of knowing how quickly to pedal his bike along to cross the finish line first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    If he weren't Ni valuing he'd have no way of knowing how quickly to pedal his bike along to cross the finish line first.
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    He has an introverts facial and body relativity and architecture:



    And, no, Im not aying all introverts have the necrotic arch, lol, but back shots are rare:



    This dude has more body morphing than I once thought:



    He is kind of odd to type because he is consistantly engaging his face or body to the camera itself. He fairly much locks in place towards the camera or who he is looking at, which is typically at introverted behavior, except he does it narcissistically
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae2point0 View Post
    except he does it narcissistically
    His type is probably "narcissist" above all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    He looks like a cancer patient, despite overcoming cancer.
    If you look at the timeline of his physical shape, it is insane. He is all over the place -- worse than me by x10 fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    He looks like a cancer patient, despite overcoming cancer.
    That´s pretty much how all professional cyclists look during peak season. Some of them look even worse:

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    ah, his arm veins scare me. I always thought LSE for him as well.

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    One of the good guys in all the cycling dope nonsense is Greg LeMond. What's his type?

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    LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMFINED View Post
    One of the good guys in all the cycling dope nonsense is Greg LeMond. What's his type?

    Likely some Fi-EP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Likely some Fi-EP...
    He has similar mannerisms to myself but I could be seeing only certain functions at work. What makes you think Fi?

    I watched another interview, he looks kinda like daniel craig.

    skip to around 12:40
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Likely some Fi-EP...
    Thanks for taking a look. My first thought was ESFp; I watched a longer piece of footage here and still think so ... his outlook seems at the least very Ni-valuing based on his statements and stances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COMFINED View Post
    Thanks for taking a look. My first thought was ESFp; I watched a longer piece of footage here and still think so ... his outlook seems at the least very Ni-valuing based on his statements and stances.
    I'd agree with Gamma SF too fwiw.
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    Yeah he seems intensely IJ, logical, and too broad/assertive in the senses unlike how an Si/Ne would be. He reeks introversion LSE wtf.

    For VIing the calculative Ti subtype just think tuturututu/trevor:


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