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  • ILE (ENTp)

    3 1.63%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    3 1.63%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    3 1.63%
  • LII (INTj)

    2 1.09%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    118 64.13%
  • IEI (INFp)

    2 1.09%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    8 4.35%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    2 1.09%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    47 25.54%
  • ILI (INTp)

    2 1.09%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    8 4.35%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    1 0.54%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    2 1.09%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    3 1.63%
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    5 2.72%
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    Default Donald Trump

    I thought we had a thread on him? Couldn't find it.








    Think Big And Kick Ass In Business And Life - Chapter 6
    January 6th, 2008 by Alan Yu

    With a chapter title of “Revenge” it pretty much told me that this was going to be a fairly aggressive read. Trump essentially expresses that when people “screw you” getting even will make it less likely that others will try to do the same to you again.

    He used examples such as helping a lady to become successful and when it came time where he needed help she looked the other way. Evidently, she lost almost everything one day and Trump took pleasure in refusing to give her things such as a good reference.
    http://www.al6400.com/blog/2008/01/0...ife-chapter-6/

    LSI, eh?
    Not just basing that on this quote, but just everything else about him, tv, etc.
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    Oh I know about him lol. He seems ESTp and very annoying. Most of what he does seems like a facade where he tries to seem tougher and more intimidating than he really is.
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    When I imagine the kind of person I would get on worst with, this image is burned into my retinas. Though she's hot and has bad taste.

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    Trump is clearly an extraverted type. ESTp is possible, and I have suggested ENTj in the past, but I am much less sure of that nowadays.

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    Hmm I have been looking at ILE.

    SLE is clearly an option, but I'm not quite convinced yet.
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    i <3 the apprentice Anybody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    When I imagine the kind of person I would get on worst with, this image is burned into my retinas. Though she's hot and has bad taste.

    Clearly he either has a large penis or a lot of money. The latter is likely, although the two are not mutually exclusive.

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    *shoots resurrection jizz on thread*

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    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    Yeah, I think ESTp also.


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    Ti-ESTp. Also case of self-aggrandizing blowhard Fe agenda, etc.

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    i think Trump Enterprises has filed for bankruptcy 3-4 times? sounds SLE lol. it seems like SLEs are often prone to spending so much money they go broke, no matter how much money they had to begin with. not seeing ILE for Trump; he cares too much about status and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Socionics PhD View Post
    is hkkmr anything like D.Trump, andor viceversa?
    i guess you could say they're both unapologetically opinionated and attention-seeking in the way you'd expect from a Ti creative otherwise i wouldn't really think to compare the two.

    hkkmr is Ti subtype, but i don't have an opinion on Trump's subtype.
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    He talks too much. And when he talks, he talks shit. Hes also very ugly.

    Not ESTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horny View Post
    He talks too much. And when he talks, he talks shit. Hes also very ugly.

    Not ESTp.
    I never got dual vibes from him, every1 says he's SLE & i've tried to see it but I can't. ... NO IDEA
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    Epitome of ENTj
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post
    Epitome of ENTj
    Replace "epitome" with "stereotype" and you would have a more accurate statement.


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    SLE probably se subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    SLE probably se subtype.
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
    Maybe you are an INFp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Maybe you are an INFp?
    Do I seem like one? ...

    It also made me fully aware of how strong the Demonstrative is, even if a person is not fully conscious of it. To finish, his Se is "carpet bombing" style(who can overlook it?). Does that sound 4D to you? Idk, but to me it fails to meet the criteria of situational applicational of function. IE: 3D aspect. I can fully adapt force and such to hit the mark and lower the defenses. It's why I insult everyone in different way. Can I carpet bomb? Yes, but why would I when I can just exploit the weakness in the defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    Do I seem like one? ...

    It also made me fully aware of how strong the Demonstrative is, even if a person is not fully conscious of it. To finish, his Se is "carpet bombing" style(who can overlook it?). Does that sound 4D to you? Idk, but to me it fails to meet the criteria of situational applicational of function. IE: 3D aspect. I can fully adapt force and such to hit the mark and lower the defenses. It's why I insult everyone in different way. Can I carpet bomb? Yes, but why would I when I can just exploit the weakness in the defense?
    Is carpeting bombing and adapting force to hit the mark and lower defences something you usually do with people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Is carpeting bombing and adapting force to hit the mark and lower defences something you usually do with people?
    Well, no unless it's called for. I don't work in the military or the diplomacy see. I'm a simple audio engineer. Or an electrotechnician, whatever.

    Why would I go around and pick fights? But if I get into one, I most certainly do know how to proceed. IF I manage to control myself that is-then I'm very dangerous . omg that sounded totally ESE fml.

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    Narcissistic racist, misogynist, xenophobic,veteran-insulting, anti-intellectual, uninformed douchebags are generally hard to type.

    It's funny how the same people who scream "traitor" at you when you oppose a war forgive Trump for blatantly disrespecting veterans. It's mind-blowing how people dig his hate speech. Not even veterans are sacred. Just disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
    According to Vox, Trump has done worse as a wheeler-dealer investor than if he had simply invested in the stock market as a whole: http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/...ump-index-fund

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    Well, no unless it's called for. I don't work in the military or the diplomacy see. I'm a simple audio engineer. Or an electrotechnician, whatever.

    Why would I go around and pick fights? But if I get into one, I most certainly do know how to proceed. IF I manage to control myself that is-then I'm very dangerous . omg that sounded totally ESE fml.
    Cool, I was just giving you a hard time, I kind of figured this about you anyway.

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    He's an extremely fucked-up, pathologically narcissistic ESTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Cool, I was just giving you a hard time, I kind of figured this about you anyway.
    Figured what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    Narcissistic racist, misogynist, xenophobic,veteran-insulting, anti-intellectual, uninformed douchebags are generally hard to type.
    Don't be so mean. He's going to be your president soon.
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    gogo trump indie capital


    trump > soros?? soros made trump? soros = trump? y?

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    i'm kind of warming to him a little.

    i think what you have to keep in mind is the politician should be a figure head of kinds, but who puts the right things forward, and acts.

    there's a strong concern about being externally controlled for peoples like hilary clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    Don't be so mean. He's going to be your president soon.
    Mark my words: he will not be president. He is still riding the high of the Sarah Palin effect. It will all crumble pretty soon.

    And thankfully I can always return into Angela's arms, phew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    i'm kind of warming to him a little.

    i think what you have to keep in mind is the politician should be a figure head of kinds, but who puts the right things forward, and acts.

    there's a strong concern about being externally controlled for peoples like hilary clinton.
    yea, i'm pretty sure that "putting the right things forward" doesn't include building a wall on the Mexican border and thinking you can make Mexico pay for it, deporting all undocumented immigrants, cutting federal education spending, declaring climate change as a hoax, being against the Iranian nuclear deal, and calling for the repeal of Obamacare, etc.

    also, it'd be nice if America's "figurehead" didn't use misogynistic, racist, xenophobic rhetoric. just saying.

    re: your last comment: anybody in that kind of powerful position will always have to take into account the myriad interests that have a stake in what they decide, lest they wish to piss a lot of people off and lose credibility. to imply that Trump would somehow be above this sounds really naive. not that i'm saying he will possibly be elected president, i really doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    yea, i'm pretty sure that "putting the right things forward" doesn't include building a wall on the Mexican border and thinking you can make Mexico pay for it, deporting all undocumented immigrants, cutting federal education spending, declaring climate change as a hoax, being against the Iranian nuclear deal, and calling for the repeal of Obamacare, etc.
    Why shouldn't overstayers be deported? It's kind of the norm. I didn't know that he was saying climate change was a hoax. Obamacare is a failure, from what I understand from here?

    There are so many illegal immigrants already that I think in some ways just working on the deporting of them rather than a wall is better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Why shouldn't overstayers be deported? It's kind of the norm. I didn't know that he was saying climate change was a hoax. Obamacare is a failure, from what I understand from here?

    There are so many illegal immigrants already that I think in some ways just working on the deporting of them rather than a wall is better idea.
    the problem is that there are so many illegal immigrants here (around ~11 million) that it's hardly logistically possible to actually deport everyone. more importantly (imo), it's simply inhumane, since so many have families and established lives here in the states. many families are a mix of undocumented immigrants and legal citizens. so what are you going to do, send the undocumented parents home, while their young children who were born here stay in the US? also, illegal immigrants provide cheap labor for many businesses - this isn't something i'm defending by any means, but unfortunately it's something that a lot of businesses exploit. point being, suddenly sending all undocumented workers back to their home countries would be a blow in this sense, and again, unrealistic.

    Obamacare isn't a failure, no, and it's been upheld by the US Supreme Court. it's certainly not perfect and the US healthcare system still has many problems, but it's certainly been an improvement, ensuring millions of people who previously weren't covered, helping many get inexpensive health insurance, keeping all people age 25 and below on their parent's insurance (the cutoff used to be age 18), banning the practice of refusing coverage due to "pre-existing conditions", etc.

    are you over there watching Fox News or something??

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    the problem is that there are so many illegal immigrants here (around ~11 million) that it's hardly logistically possible to actually deport everyone. more importantly (imo), it's simply inhumane, since so many have families and established lives here in the states. many families are a mix of undocumented immigrants and legal citizens. so what are you going to do, send the undocumented parents home, while their young children who were born here stay in the US? also, illegal immigrants provide cheap labor for many businesses - this isn't something i'm defending by any means, but unfortunately it's something that a lot of businesses exploit. point being, suddenly sending all undocumented workers back to their home countries would be a blow in this sense, and again, unrealistic.

    Obamacare isn't a failure, no, and it's been upheld by the US Supreme Court. it's certainly not perfect and the US healthcare system still has many problems, but it's certainly been an improvement, ensuring millions of people who previously weren't covered, helping many get inexpensive health insurance, keeping all people age 25 and below on their parent's insurance (the cutoff used to be age 18), banning the practice of refusing coverage due to "pre-existing conditions", etc.

    are you over there watching Fox News or something??
    so you think it'd be better to go with someone like:

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/10-scandal...n#.3rofyk:aqUW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    so you think it'd be better to go with someone like:

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/10-scandal...n#.3rofyk:aqUW
    i didn't even mention Hillary Clinton in my post, but ok i'll take the bait: yes, i'd definitely take a seasoned, non-crazy politician with plenty of relevant experience, generally decent policy positions, and who isn't racist or misogynistic, over a clown like Trump. Hillary is a much better choice than most of the Republican candidates, and she has a chance to win, assuming her email scandal doesn't destroy her campaign.

    as for a lot of those scandals, i think a lot of them seem like business as usual in American politics (i.e. corruption, cronyism, $$$), especially with well-connected political elites like the Clintons. this is a problem that's unfortunately endemic to our political system, but if you think Trump is somehow going to save America from this, i would say you're probably mistaken.

    it's really weird to me that you apparently think Trump would be a better leader for the US than someone like Hillary. easy for you to say i guess, since you're not American and afaik don't have a real stake in who our next president will be

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