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  • ILE (ENTp)

    2 1.63%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    1 0.81%
  • ESE (ESFj)

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  • LII (INTj)

    1 0.81%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    88 71.54%
  • IEI (INFp)

    1 0.81%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    6 4.88%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    1 0.81%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    23 18.70%
  • ILI (INTp)

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  • ESI (ISFj)

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  • IEE (ENFp)

    1 0.81%
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    I don't know, but what I've heard is that Melania has the right to stay in the US via Green card "Einstein visa" and Trump has the power to revoke the validity of it. So she'd have to leave the country.
    I don't know if this is a rumor only or true.
    She is a citizen. He helped her become one, way before he became pres, with an "Einstein" visa so people can come to their own conclusion on how that happened when she was working as a model. She was only dating him when she got it. For someone who hates immigration he sure does love marrying immigrants.

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    Trump is whatever this guy is



    Same guy next to an actual SLE



    He has the same interrupted speech, same facial tics, same body mannerisms, same over the top "BIG ALPHA DOG" cartoonish language, same orange tan addiction. The only difference is Trump was raised by a psycho "man's man" father, hazed in a psycho boarding school as a kid, and modeled his image off 90s NYC real estate & Wall St. sharks, so he selectively expresses emotion to look like a caricature of a SLE businessman. His facial expressions are within his control and if you look at him in interviews he is much more resistant to Fe emotional contagion (ex. IEI doe eyes, infectious smiles) than SLEs.


    Edit: I don't know for sure if Trump is SEE, but the SEE by Stratiyevskaya profile is basically Trump.
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    The Napoleon and Zhukov descriptions more or less confirmed my thoughts. I don't even dislike the guy, I find him hilarious quite often. It's just that a type that highly values and isn't that good at Fe would never so skillfully and shamelessly engage in the kind of antics he does, no matter how unhealthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Sorry Timber. I went a little hard yesterday. I honestly don’t care much about Melania or about their relationship. I’ve been going through some stuff recently and have been more aggressive and angry than usual, was in fight mode. No worries, Melania is honestly irrelevant. You good. Your opinions on Melania are fine, at least you see Trump for the monster he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    A clown as president who is really bad at estimating the consequences of his decisions... and good at giving emotional manipulative speeches.

    When he is in trouble because he justifies his decisions he seems to me like an alligator who tries to escape a dragnet by forcefully rolling around.
    Yeah. Why on earth mb T type. Makes like 0.0031 % sense.
    Last edited by Heretic 007; 10-21-2019 at 08:24 AM. Reason: lol.. too complicated
    Measuring you right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Your typings also suck. Just sayin.
    Ok

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    Live now. Watch from beginning. Very emotional Trump.



    Edit: Might have to wait until it is over to watch from beginning. Too bad. The emotional manipulation was high in this one but he has never sounded so sincere and a bit deflated.

    Nvm, it starts a couple minutes past going live image.

    Edit2: I can see how he can convince people to like him one on one from this. I know he is lying about things but I am even affected by this outpouring of feeling.
    Last edited by Aylen; 10-21-2019 at 06:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Yeah. Why on earth mb T type. Makes like 0.0031 % sense.

    I heard a SLE ponder if Trump is a ESE and it wasn't a terrible idea. Then Sol says EIE and that can't be unseen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Live now. Watch from beginning. Very emotional Trump.



    Edit: Might have to wait until it is over to watch from beginning. Too bad. The emotional manipulation was high in this one but he has never sounded so sincere and a bit deflated.

    Nvm, it starts a couple minutes past going live image.

    Edit2: I can see how he can convince people to like him one on one from this. I know he is lying about things but I am even affected by this outpouring of feeling.
    I really enjoy his *personality*. As far as personality goes its not the boogie man everyone makes it out to be.

    Its all his choices, approaches, sentiments, and decisions that are utter garbage.

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    All this Trump hate is kind of making me sympathetic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoodoo View Post
    All this Trump hate is kind of making me sympathetic...
    You could be under the influence of the underdog effect.

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    Nah, I think I just tend not to trust the crowd. Let's call it Ni.

    edit: or maybe that's the same thing. idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoodoo View Post
    Nah, I think I just tend not to trust the crowd. Let's call it Ni.

    edit: or maybe that's the same thing. idk
    lol

    He does position himself as a victim of the democrats who he thinks have some sort of collective gang mentality. He doesn't even understand The Constitution so he can't fathom why people think he broke laws or violated it. In fairness to him it is probably because he has never read it. Like I said I don't hate him but he was rather deflated in that video. I almost felt bad for him. I just remind myself that he lies to the American people and he wants to be a dictator. The feeling bad for him just melts away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    I heard a SLE ponder if Trump is a ESE and it wasn't a terrible idea. Then Sol says EIE and that can't be unseen.
    Yea EIE thats interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    lol
    I just remind myself that he lies to the American people and he wants to be a dictator. The feeling bad for him just melts away.
    Isnt that pretty much every president. I dont know why ppl keep convincing themselves to hate trump lol. Its like they got brainwashed by their media

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Isnt that pretty much every president. I dont know why ppl keep convincing themselves to hate trump lol. Its like they got brainwashed by their media
    I think they hate what he stands for > the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I think they hate what he stands for > the man.
    Seems to me to be the other way around

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    seems he's not so hated if he won the elections and probs gonna win again, ah

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    who's in the crowd ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    seems he's not so hated if he won the elections and probs gonna win again, ah
    Silent majority

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    But it seems not cuz the media is mostly liberal/democratic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    who's in the crowd ;]
    Oh we all are, oh yes.
    Does absolutely nothing, then dies.

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    Uh are you guys American ?

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    Most people I meet dislike Trump, including republicans.

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    I've been reading about Trump's steady approval ratings, and I think he has captured the cult market.

    https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

    https://forge.medium.com/how-to-chan...d-1774681b9369

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I've been reading about Trump's steady approval ratings, and I think he has captured the cult market.

    https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

    https://forge.medium.com/how-to-chan...d-1774681b9369
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ Looks like his approval ratings are pretty much on par with Obama's at this same point in time. Not all that different from Reagan's or Clinton's ratings overall. Both Bushes had better ratings. Now I have to find out what Carter did that made so many people disapprove of him. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ Looks like his approval ratings are pretty much on par with Obama's at this same point in time. Not all that different from Reagan's or Clinton's ratings overall. Both Bushes had better ratings. Now I have to find out what Carter did that made so many people disapprove of him. . .
    Carter had the misfortune to be president when two things happened. One, the US was just experiencing the oil shock so the economy was bleeding jobs and money. In 1973, the price of oil increased 400%. Imagine the effects of gas prices now rising to $10/gallon, and then in 1979, they again doubled (to a today's price of $20/gallon).

    And two, the Iranians had captured the US Embassy and had kept them hostage for hundreds of days. The US military attempted a rescue mission, but the team had a huge screw-up in the desert on its way there, and simply retreated. This was a direct consequence of the military recruiting a bunch of morons to fill the body quota when fighting the Vietnam war.

    Incidentally, the State department had negotiated the release of the US hostages with the Iranians near the end of Carter's term, but members of the incoming Reagan administration held secret talks with the Iranians and they agreed to keep holding the hostages until Reagan was elected President, so Reagan would get credit for releasing the hostages.

    A President's legacy has little to do with how good a person they are, and a lot to do with luck and how well they can fool the public.

    My personal opinion of Carter was that he was both unlucky and too nice a guy. Reagan was a duplicitous asshole. But Reagan, for all the damage he did, still was not nearly as bad as Bush was or Trump is.
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    Yeah, of course he has a vocal group of haters, he's the president. Maybe the media is primarily liberal, and there's lots in the press against him, but the idea of people being brainwashed (more than normal, with any president), no. I'm sure he'd like you to think so. (Maverick, against the grain, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Yeah, of course he has a vocal group of haters, he's the president. Maybe the media is primarily liberal, and there's lots in the press against him, but the idea of people being brainwashed (more than normal, with any president), no. I'm sure he'd like you to think so. (Maverick, against the grain, etc)
    Weirdly enough, I didn't hate Obama or Jerry Ford or Clinton or Bush I.

    Anyway, the more I think about this, the more I'm convinced that Trump's true believers would qualify as cult members. They have the same mind-set.
    Most researchers have narrowed his base down to white Evangelicals. Coincidence? I think not.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...chment/600376/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    She is a citizen. He helped her become one, way before he became pres, with an "Einstein" visa so people can come to their own conclusion on how that happened when she was working as a model. She was only dating him when she got it. For someone who hates immigration he sure does love marrying immigrants.
    Ok, my previous post may contain traces of alternative facts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Edit2: I can see how he can convince people to like him one on one from this. I know he is lying about things but I am even affected by this outpouring of feeling.
    He received a good training in persuasion... by Obi Wan himself. Obviously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I've been reading about Trump's steady approval ratings, and I think he has captured the cult market.

    https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

    https://forge.medium.com/how-to-chan...d-1774681b9369
    You may be right, but the "opposing" side is just as much of a "cult" as it were. I mean, look at the SJW crowd. It's literally an anti-Christian cult. This guy I'm about to link to may not be an official journalist or anything, and you may not like him personally as he's a Trump Supporter, but damned if his arguments aren't sound:

    https://www.brianniemeier.com/2019/06/a-tale-of-two-cults.html


    https://www.brianniemeier.com/2019/10/yes-actual-cult.html
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    so now you know Trump is the president that Putin has paid for, remake your considerations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    She is a citizen. He helped her become one, way before he became pres, with an "Einstein" visa so people can come to their own conclusion on how that happened when she was working as a model. She was only dating him when she got it. For someone who hates immigration he sure does love marrying immigrants.
    I mean theres a difference between hot model citizens and criminal trash from southern border

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    We should have a council at the border to review potential Mexican immigrants for titties & ass approval
    (And no selling baggies!)

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    The one thing I like about Trump is that he is the gift that keeps on giving.

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    Ho Ho Ho
    Does absolutely nothing, then dies.

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    Is it just me, or does this emoji scream Donald Trump

    WHERE IS THE WHISTLEBLOWER

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    There's nothing more terrifying than the probability you might be Trump's supervisee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    There's nothing more terrifying than the probability you might be Trump's supervisee.
    I told my ILI lawyer friend (who knows very little of Socionics) that Trump was very likely his Dual. He sat silently for a few minutes and then replied angrily "You don't know how insulting it is to be told that Trump and I are somehow a good match."

    I haven't seem him that angry in, maybe, forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I told my ILI lawyer friend (who knows very little of Socionics) that Trump was very likely his Dual. He sat silently for a few minutes and then replied angrily "You don't know how insulting it is to be told that Trump and I are somehow a good match."

    I haven't seem him that angry in, maybe, forever.
    Hopefully you took the opportunity to tell him that being duals does not guarantee any kind of chemistry, that they will like each other and that they can be indifferent to each other too? Or did you sell him on the duality fantasy without any caveats?

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