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  • ILE (ENTp)

    3 1.63%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    3 1.63%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    3 1.63%
  • LII (INTj)

    2 1.09%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    118 64.13%
  • IEI (INFp)

    2 1.09%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    8 4.35%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    2 1.09%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    47 25.54%
  • ILI (INTp)

    2 1.09%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    8 4.35%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    1 0.54%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    2 1.09%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    3 1.63%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    5 2.72%
  • EII (INFj)

    4 2.17%
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    Default Donald Trump

    I thought we had a thread on him? Couldn't find it.








    Think Big And Kick Ass In Business And Life - Chapter 6
    January 6th, 2008 by Alan Yu

    With a chapter title of “Revenge” it pretty much told me that this was going to be a fairly aggressive read. Trump essentially expresses that when people “screw you” getting even will make it less likely that others will try to do the same to you again.

    He used examples such as helping a lady to become successful and when it came time where he needed help she looked the other way. Evidently, she lost almost everything one day and Trump took pleasure in refusing to give her things such as a good reference.
    http://www.al6400.com/blog/2008/01/0...ife-chapter-6/

    LSI, eh?
    Not just basing that on this quote, but just everything else about him, tv, etc.
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    Oh I know about him lol. He seems ESTp and very annoying. Most of what he does seems like a facade where he tries to seem tougher and more intimidating than he really is.
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    When I imagine the kind of person I would get on worst with, this image is burned into my retinas. Though she's hot and has bad taste.

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    Trump is clearly an extraverted type. ESTp is possible, and I have suggested ENTj in the past, but I am much less sure of that nowadays.

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    Hmm I have been looking at ILE.

    SLE is clearly an option, but I'm not quite convinced yet.
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    i <3 the apprentice Anybody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    When I imagine the kind of person I would get on worst with, this image is burned into my retinas. Though she's hot and has bad taste.

    Clearly he either has a large penis or a lot of money. The latter is likely, although the two are not mutually exclusive.

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    *shoots resurrection jizz on thread*

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    Ti-SLE
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
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    Absolutely not. SLE
    I can't take this anymore
    And I'm almost pretty sure
    I've been here before



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Absolutely not. SLE
    That was a total typo I typed him SEE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    That was a total typo I typed him SEE
    Considering Obama is black, what do you type him Maritsa? Is he Trump’s identical type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Considering Obama is black, what do you type him Maritsa? Is he Trump’s identical type?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Considering Obama is black, what do you type him Maritsa? Is he Trump’s identical type?
    Ok, I'm not Maritsa, but I'll reply anyway.
    Obama and Trump are obviously different types.

    Quick Big Five Comparison:
    Obama is lower on Extraversion, higher on Openness, way higher on Agreeableness, higher on Conscientious and lower on Neuroticism, compared to Trump.

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    Live now. Watch from beginning. Very emotional Trump.



    Edit: Might have to wait until it is over to watch from beginning. Too bad. The emotional manipulation was high in this one but he has never sounded so sincere and a bit deflated.

    Nvm, it starts a couple minutes past going live image.

    Edit2: I can see how he can convince people to like him one on one from this. I know he is lying about things but I am even affected by this outpouring of feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Live now. Watch from beginning. Very emotional Trump.



    Edit: Might have to wait until it is over to watch from beginning. Too bad. The emotional manipulation was high in this one but he has never sounded so sincere and a bit deflated.

    Nvm, it starts a couple minutes past going live image.

    Edit2: I can see how he can convince people to like him one on one from this. I know he is lying about things but I am even affected by this outpouring of feeling.
    I really enjoy his *personality*. As far as personality goes its not the boogie man everyone makes it out to be.

    Its all his choices, approaches, sentiments, and decisions that are utter garbage.

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    All this Trump hate is kind of making me sympathetic...

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    SLE probably se subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    SLE probably se subtype.
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
    Maybe you are an INFp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Maybe you are an INFp?
    Do I seem like one? ...

    It also made me fully aware of how strong the Demonstrative is, even if a person is not fully conscious of it. To finish, his Se is "carpet bombing" style(who can overlook it?). Does that sound 4D to you? Idk, but to me it fails to meet the criteria of situational applicational of function. IE: 3D aspect. I can fully adapt force and such to hit the mark and lower the defenses. It's why I insult everyone in different way. Can I carpet bomb? Yes, but why would I when I can just exploit the weakness in the defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    Do I seem like one? ...

    It also made me fully aware of how strong the Demonstrative is, even if a person is not fully conscious of it. To finish, his Se is "carpet bombing" style(who can overlook it?). Does that sound 4D to you? Idk, but to me it fails to meet the criteria of situational applicational of function. IE: 3D aspect. I can fully adapt force and such to hit the mark and lower the defenses. It's why I insult everyone in different way. Can I carpet bomb? Yes, but why would I when I can just exploit the weakness in the defense?
    Is carpeting bombing and adapting force to hit the mark and lower defences something you usually do with people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    "Burn the heretic;
    Kill the mutant;
    Purge the unclean;
    Suffer not the NECRO to live!"

    No way on SLE. Tho I can understand how people see him as such, but he is LIE. He also lies a lot. For sure, certainly. ...What?

    Answer me, would an SLE manage to get from zero to (almost) president? Perhaps, but not in the Donald way. No. He always seemed like he was actually very picky but did it all on fly because is T3H EXTROVERT. I'd also say that he has a very fine sense for a moment when to invest and when not to. Almost like a pantherish grace applied to economics. Which, I kid you not, he truly does possess. Plus, he is all about efficiency-a clear Te trait.

    Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .

    wow, just watched those videos. To be quite honest, I reacted quite positively on him. Especially to the first video. And if you actually listen to him, he is constantly saying where things are headed, what are their potentials(he said it multiple times during "Late Night") and what can be done with them. He also sounds quite...oh shit the fuck!

    Trump is my dual? O.O
    According to Vox, Trump has done worse as a wheeler-dealer investor than if he had simply invested in the stock market as a whole: http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/...ump-index-fund

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    "Be as it may, he is either of those. Either SLE-Se or LIE-Te...pick your poison .
    I used to think LIE. By remembering what I had experienced of him. But after seriously reviewing some vids, I was surprised, he's not LIE. I agree he might not be the stereotypical SLE, and rather has the role or profession that you would find an LIE doing.

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    Narcissistic racist, misogynist, xenophobic,veteran-insulting, anti-intellectual, uninformed douchebags are generally hard to type.

    It's funny how the same people who scream "traitor" at you when you oppose a war forgive Trump for blatantly disrespecting veterans. It's mind-blowing how people dig his hate speech. Not even veterans are sacred. Just disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    Narcissistic racist, misogynist, xenophobic,veteran-insulting, anti-intellectual, uninformed douchebags are generally hard to type.
    Don't be so mean. He's going to be your president soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    Don't be so mean. He's going to be your president soon.
    Mark my words: he will not be president. He is still riding the high of the Sarah Palin effect. It will all crumble pretty soon.

    And thankfully I can always return into Angela's arms, phew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    Narcissistic racist, misogynist, xenophobic,veteran-insulting, anti-intellectual, uninformed douchebags are generally hard to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olduvai View Post
    I never claimed to be a tolerant liberal. My tolerance ends where unfounded claims and bullshit hate speech begins and Donald Trump offers up plenty of that. You can marry your cousin and shoot cans in your backyard all you want for all I care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    I never claimed to be a tolerant liberal. My tolerance ends where unfounded claims and bullshit hate speech begins and Donald Trump offers up plenty of that. You can marry your cousin and shoot cans in your backyard all you want for all I care.
    But you want to silence people. You want to censor speech. That isn't very progressive.

    If you want hate speech, you needn't look further than this thread. Lotsa "enlightened" liberals saying some nasty things about The Donald. Your own words sound like fightin' words to me. That's basically the definition of hate speech. How ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olduvai View Post
    But you want to silence people. You want to censor speech.
    I just don't want people to seriously consider a person for president who says shit like this:

    “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
    (crime rates among first-generation immigrants, including undocumented, are lower than among U.S.-born citizens)

    “Laziness is a trait in blacks.”
    “I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”
    “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
    “.@ariannahuff is unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man- he made a good decision.”
    “@mplefty67: If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her thing she can satisfy America?’ @realDonaldTrump #2016president”
    “It’s freezing and snowing in New York. We need global warming!”
    “To the victor belong the spoils,” he said to Bill O’Reilly, about his stance of staying in Iraq after the war. Therefore he would “stay and we keep the oil.”
    “He’s not a war hero," Trump said dismissively of McCain, who spent more than five years being tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam and suffered permanent injuries as a result.

    Trump, who received a number of deferments to avoid serving in Vietnam, backtracked slightly after drawing boos.

    “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured,” he said, to a mix of laughs and jeers from the several hundred social conservatives gathered at the Family Leadership Summit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olduvai View Post
    But you want to silence people. You want to censor speech. That isn't very progressive.

    If you want hate speech, you needn't look further than this thread. Lotsa "enlightened" liberals saying some nasty things about The Donald. Your own words sound like fightin' words to me. That's basically the definition of hate speech. How ironic.
    By that logic I accept all speech that harms people. I am criticizing Trump's own words, not his ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexuality, etc. See the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olduvai View Post
    Actually, that photo brings to mind Trump's demeanor much more so than Kim's.
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    He's an extremely fucked-up, pathologically narcissistic ESTp.

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    trump > soros?? soros made trump? soros = trump? y?

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    i'm kind of warming to him a little.

    i think what you have to keep in mind is the politician should be a figure head of kinds, but who puts the right things forward, and acts.

    there's a strong concern about being externally controlled for peoples like hilary clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    i'm kind of warming to him a little.

    i think what you have to keep in mind is the politician should be a figure head of kinds, but who puts the right things forward, and acts.

    there's a strong concern about being externally controlled for peoples like hilary clinton.
    yea, i'm pretty sure that "putting the right things forward" doesn't include building a wall on the Mexican border and thinking you can make Mexico pay for it, deporting all undocumented immigrants, cutting federal education spending, declaring climate change as a hoax, being against the Iranian nuclear deal, and calling for the repeal of Obamacare, etc.

    also, it'd be nice if America's "figurehead" didn't use misogynistic, racist, xenophobic rhetoric. just saying.

    re: your last comment: anybody in that kind of powerful position will always have to take into account the myriad interests that have a stake in what they decide, lest they wish to piss a lot of people off and lose credibility. to imply that Trump would somehow be above this sounds really naive. not that i'm saying he will possibly be elected president, i really doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    yea, i'm pretty sure that "putting the right things forward" doesn't include building a wall on the Mexican border and thinking you can make Mexico pay for it, deporting all undocumented immigrants, cutting federal education spending, declaring climate change as a hoax, being against the Iranian nuclear deal, and calling for the repeal of Obamacare, etc.
    Why shouldn't overstayers be deported? It's kind of the norm. I didn't know that he was saying climate change was a hoax. Obamacare is a failure, from what I understand from here?

    There are so many illegal immigrants already that I think in some ways just working on the deporting of them rather than a wall is better idea.

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