Let's see if you can VI me!

[strrrng]

that 4th picture is not alpha or ESE in any way

[snegledmaca]

are you serious? her expression is completely Ni. it's like calm, light, not all the way there. why do you think she focuses on sensory stuff? just because she is "image-conscious"?

If she were Ni there would be much more interaction between us and her as she attempts to delve into herself. So far she has shown no intention of doing that but instead prefers the lighthearted exchange of alpha . The sensory focus is her focus on the immediate. My impression is that she takes things at face value, does not attempt to ascribe complex meanign to simple things.

[strrrng]

If she were Ni there would be much more interaction between us and her as she attempts to delve into herself. So far she has shown no intention of doing that but instead prefers the lighthearted exchange of alpha . The sensory focus is her focus on the immediate. My impression is that she takes things at face value, does not attempt to ascribe complex meanign to simple things.

4 enneagrams typically don't take things at face value - especially 4w5's (which is the most common enneagram for INFp's). and your assertion that she would have gone more in depth if she was Ni is unreliable. I could see alpha, but probably ISFp. her expression is more calm.

[Kristiina]

4 enneagrams typically don't take things at face value - especially 4w5's (which is the most common enneagram for INFp's). and your assertion that she would have gone more in depth if she was Ni is unreliable. I could see alpha, but probably ISFp. her expression is more calm.

blashemy!!! You are making very strong socionics assumptions based purely on some other theory! Why?! It's a bad habit! At least you're making assumptions based on "correlations" with enneagram in stead of MBTI. But it's still not the smartest thing to do.

[theMime.]

being image focussed can indeed be type related, my dear.

quote talking about average level enneagram threes:

"Become image-conscious, highly concerned with how they are perceived."

came from this site:

http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeThree.asp

[theMime.]

For some reason, this made me think of Teddy Grahamz. Basically, I need me some food.

hahaha.
=)

[theMime.]

Oh yes! and to those talking about me not having a description and me not interacting...

I'm trying my hardest NOT to say much on here or interact with you guys because the point is V.I. (hahaha! so much for not saying anything!)
I wanted to see if you could guess my type WITHOUT me saying much about it.

[Kristiina]

being image focussed can indeed be type related, my dear.

quote talking about average level enneagram threes:

"Become image-conscious, highly concerned with how they are perceived."

came from this site:

http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeThree.asp

Fe dominants - "I wonder how others percieve me, I want them to think good. I want good feedback"
Fe creative - "I don't want to step on anyone's toes but I want others to think good of me."
Ti dominants (Fe dual-seeking) - "I hope I fit in."
Ti creative (Fe hidden agenda) - "I hope they think I'm a fun person!"
Fe role too strong- "I want people to like me. I want them to think I'm wonderful."
any type - "my parents never payed enough attention to me, I want to show people that I'm a great person."
etc

Enneagram has some correlation, but not like SOME people here are saying!

And people seem to be finished with your VI. Tell us your type already and lets see who was right. Without a description, this is as far as typing goes. People just argue what they think they are seeing. I don't think you're a type, whereas some are quite sure that you are. Some people think you're ENFp, many think you're ESFj. I don't think you'll get new information.

[Wittmont]

Heh, I am no expert at VI (don't really think there are any here). I only compare pics and go with the vibe I get, unless it happens to be really obvious type pics. But it's fun to play Sometimes I get it right and sometimes not. But I get it right way more times than if it would be mere speculation (pure chance one shot in 16), so there has to be something to this VI thing. But it certainly isn't as easy as looking at four or five pics and declare a person's life story and type.

[Orest Reinn]

There is no poll here so I counted votes. I did it in a hurry, so I possibly counted some votes twice (if someone posted many times) and i could miss sth, but nvm...
First is ENFp with 9 points, then ESFj/INFp - 6, ENFj/ESFj/ENTp - 5 (I hope you're none of them)
The only type that hasn't been mentioned is ISTp
Alpha has 19 pt, Beta 15, Gamma 7 and Delta 11
You more likely identified her as a F type - 69%, N - 62%, J - 58%, and E - 60%

[Kristiina]

There is no poll here so I counted votes. I did it in a hurry, so I possibly counted some votes twice (if someone posted many times) and i could miss sth, but nvm...
First is ENFp with 9 points, then ESFj/INFp - 6, ENFj/ESFj/ENTp - 5 (I hope you're none of them)
The only type that hasn't been mentioned is ISTp
Alpha has 19 pt, Beta 15, Gamma 7 and Delta 11
You more likely identified her as a F type - 69%, N - 62%, J - 58%, and E - 60%

Haha... I love !

[strrrng]

blashemy!!! You are making very strong socionics assumptions based purely on some other theory! Why?! It's a bad habit! At least you're making assumptions based on "correlations" with enneagram in stead of MBTI. But it's still not the smartest thing to do.

this isn't "blasphemy!"....I was talking about the nature of 4's...the only socionics connection I made was that INFp's are commonly fours, which is fuckin true.

being image focussed can indeed be type related, my dear.

quote talking about average level enneagram threes:

"Become image-conscious, highly concerned with how they are perceived."

well, maybe with enneagram, I was talking about cognitive functions, not surfacy shit. you shouldn't type yourself based off such traits; you should look at your perception of things, i.e. static/dynamic, how you think...

[Ms. Kensington]

Haha... I love !

i love

[Gilly]

Oh yes! and to those talking about me not having a description and me not interacting...

I'm trying my hardest NOT to say much on here or interact with you guys because the point is V.I. (hahaha! so much for not saying anything!)
I wanted to see if you could guess my type WITHOUT me saying much about it.

Ti quadra.

[theMime.]

this isn't "blasphemy!"....I was talking about the nature of 4's...the only socionics connection I made was that INFp's are commonly fours, which is fuckin true.



well, maybe with enneagram, I was talking about cognitive functions, not surfacy shit. you shouldn't type yourself based off such traits; you should look at your perception of things, i.e. static/dynamic, how you think...

point taken.
with socioinics definitly...looking at things like perception and how one thinks is the way to go!

I suppose I worded it weird but what was going through my head with that whole image thing (however logical or illogical it was) was that I was trying to figure out whether I was more of an attention craving, image concious enneagram 4 or if i was more of a curious, knowledge hungry, skeptical four. yup.

[Mediator Kam]

So what type are you natalie?

ENFp, INFp, or in a Ti quadra?

[strrrng]

I suppose I worded it weird but what was going through my head with that whole image thing (however logical or illogical it was) was that I was trying to figure out whether I was more of an attention craving, image concious enneagram 4 or if i was more of a curious, knowledge hungry, skeptical four. yup.

ha, yes. 4. that picture reveals it all. did you purposely put it as the fourth?

what type do YOU think you are?

[strrrng]

all your pics point to INFp. I get the curious, identity-seeking vibe behind the calm waters, so to speak.

[theMime.]

ha, yes. 4. that picture reveals it all. did you purposely put it as the fourth?

what type do YOU think you are?

haha no i didn't purposely put it in as fourth
i hadn't even made that connection
maybe subconciously i was trying to give you guys a clue

uhm i think now you know what type i am....you saw the video right?

[Mediator Kam]

omg hi natalie, what's up?????

[strrrng]

haha no i didn't purposely put it in as fourth
i hadn't even made that connection
maybe subconciously i was trying to give you guys a clue

uhm i think now you know what type i am....you saw the video right?

no, what video?

[tereg]

no, what video?

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=16097

[theMime.]

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=16097

thanks tereg!
but i think i'll just post the vid again in this thread to make it easier on ppl.

[theMime.]

I get kind of an extraverted Alpha vibe.

ESE or ILE

For some reason I kept thinking of the word "globetrotter"

globetrotter?
haha like the harlem globetrotters?

or did you mean it more like "traveler"?

[strrrng]

hmm...my guess was wrong...w/e. how did you come to that conclusion, mime?

[theMime.]

hmm...my guess was wrong...w/e. how did you come to that conclusion, mime?

what was your guess? INFp? IMO that was a pretty good guess!...my own mother's view of me is ISTp...hahaha....and we're really close too!

[Mediator Kam]

what was your guess? INFp? IMO that was a pretty good guess!...my own mother's view of me is INTp...hahaha....and we're really close too!

so you think a lot, lol?

[strrrng]

what was your guess? INFp? IMO that was a pretty good guess!...my own mother's view of me is INTp...hahaha....and we're really close too!

I could definitely see someone thinking you as IxTx because of your general demeanor. but wait, you didn't answer the second part of my question: how did you come to the conclusion?

[tereg]

globetrotter?
haha like the harlem globetrotters?

or did you mean it more like "traveler"?

I meant like traveler.

Edit: Like, the kind of vibe I got from you reminded me of someone who really enjoys traveling. She really likes going to places like France, Italy, Greece... just really enjoys it a lot.

[theMime.]

I could definitely see someone thinking you as IxTx because of your general demeanor. but wait, you didn't answer the second part of my question: how did you come to the conclusion?

Oh sorry! Yes the second part of the question!
I came to that conclusion after taking the test a few times and reading all the type descriptions. ISFp fit better than anything. I also read about about I vs. E, N vs. S, T vs. F, and j vs. p. That also confirmed it.

[theMime.]

i think that might point to an ESFP as i think that when among parents, we experience a pull towards child blocks. that maybe due to experiencing so much with parents while being small children. and if you are ESFP, your positive child (superid model A block) is NiTe, which is INTP's adult block (ego).

OOPS! That INTp should have been an ISTp! My mother's view of me is ISTp not INTp. Sorry about the typo!

[hellothere]

OOPS! That INTp should have been an ISTp! My mother's view of me is ISTp not INTp. Sorry about the typo!

using Dee's theory this would make you an ENFp (i think)

[hellothere]

well you could be an ENFP i suppose. i've seen an ENFP (100% sure) girl with a similar facial texture, though bone structure a little different.

dee, no offence (really), but is this a joke? Is "facial texture" really an indicator of type?!

[theMime.]

That isn't how you type in socionics, Mime (regarding the I vs E, S vs N, F vs T, j vs p bit). You have to think about it in terms of Si versus Se versus ... etc. See: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ation_elements and http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Model_A for example.

Carla,
First off, I appreciate you trying to help me come up with the most effective method of typing.
I did research about Si, Se, Fi, and Fe I simply forgot to add that in my reply about how I came to the conclusion of my type.
In fact In the description I posted of myself there's a sentence in there somewhere about my Si...I said something about how I'm good at percieving my internal reactions to external stimuli which is what wikisocion said was an Si thing.

But even had I not known which of my funcions were introverted and which were extroverted I still would have known I was an ISFp because knowing for certain that I'm an I, an S, an F, and a p can only lead to one thing...ISFp...regardless of whether I knew or didn't know which functions were extroverted or introverted. It was after I knew for certain that I was those four letters that I researched introverted sensing and feeling which confirmed that I am indeed ISFp. Starting out looking at the introverted and extroverted aspects of functions will probably make it easier to come to a conclusion and come to it more quickly but that doesn't mean that the method I used didn't work.

[strrrng]

I came to that conclusion after taking the test a few times and reading all the type descriptions. ISFp fit better than anything. I also read about about I vs. E, N vs. S, T vs. F, and j vs. p. That also confirmed it.

yeah, well, I agree with carla that you shouldn't type this way, but since you were able to find your type, it doesn't matter.

[theMime.]

yeah, well, I agree with carla that you shouldn't type this way, but since you were able to find your type, it doesn't matter.

yes I agree too.
That method (the one Carla mentioned) certainly would have been quicker!
haha.
I just wanted to point out that just becuase I didn't use the most effective method it doesn't mean I'm not an ISFp because due to my certainty of my four letters by default I came to right conclusion regardless of the fact that it's not the best method of typing.

[hellothere]

sorry, but there is 0% Ti and 100% Te.

actually I was wondering how that was Ti as well... aren't statistics like that more Te?

[Slacker]

But even had I not known which of my funcions were introverted and which were extroverted I still would have known I was an ISFp because knowing for certain that I'm an I, an S, an F, and a p can only lead to one thing...ISFp...regardless of whether I knew or didn't know which functions were extroverted or introverted. It was after I knew for certain that I was those four letters that I researched introverted sensing and feeling which confirmed that I am indeed ISFp. Starting out looking at the introverted and extroverted aspects of functions will probably make it easier to come to a conclusion and come to it more quickly but that doesn't mean that the method I used didn't work.

I agree that you sound ISFp, or at least that's very likely, but this isn't a good way to type. I, S, F, and p aren't used the way they are in MBTI and typical definitions of those letters can be confusing, misleading, or meaningless when looked at individually in Socionics.

Read this two blog entries - they explain it better than I can: http://socionist.blogspot.com/search/label/dichotomies

[Mediator Kam]

SF 4 LYFE.

Just because I might be dumb when it comes to theoretical things I make up in languages.

and love.

[Mea]

From your responses, ISFp sounds right.