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    Interesting. Did you think this up yourself, just "on the fly", or are you basing this on something that already existed?

    static: "stop, stop, let's think for a second" - looks or thinks at/about the judgements/ideas or present factual ourtside without the blurr of own personal judgements and oppinions on how the person likes it or thinks it fits a system/regimen/regularity of a sort perfectly
    dynamic: looks or thinks at/about the processes constantly
    I'm curious about this: are you Static or Dynamic according to this description...?

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    Default Re: on elements and model a for discussion

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    *warning* bullshit ahead
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    Man I'm telling you, you're wasting your time. Learn more about the functions; I haven't stopped yet.

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    You're still wasting your time. UNDERSTAND THE FUNCTIONS BEFORE YOU TRY TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. You're still talking about clubs here and you can't seem to get away from these inane vagueries, so you clearly haven't gotten far enough into the basic theory to be touting your own stuff. I'm telling you man, you need to go back to the drawing board.

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    I'm trying to give you some fucking advice. Hardly anyone here at all understands the functions well in terms of IM elements, and most of us have been here longer than you.

    That's all.

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    Heh; functions are still relative bull-shit concepts compared to clubs... Clubs are more or less directly perceivable, whereas functions... well, we say types consist of functions, but is a function ever seen in isolation..? DarkAngelFireWolf69's findings that one form of Ne (Ne+) is so much different from another (Ne-) that the two are directly antagonistic illustrates how weak a construct a function really is. By thinking in terms of types, clubs and quadras one can avoid a lot of mistakes. So instead of advising people to focus on functions foremost, it would be better to advise them to see types first, then clubs and quadras, and to see functions as the theoretical abstraction that ends up making sense of things when seen as part of the bigger picture.

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    You're silly. Socionics itself as a theory is inseperable from Ti.

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    Oh cut the crap, I never pretend to know anything that anybody else doesn't. All the information is out there for everyone to read. You just have to learn how to apply it.

    Ti as an information aspect encompasses the entire theoretical structure of Socionics. If you really need me to explain why in detail I will gladly do so, but I'd rather avoid such a post if you can come to your own conclusions. For starters, I will tell you to think about the words "static relationships between concepts."

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    Do you want me to explain or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    no thanks, i know them well enough already.
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