Pablo Picasso

[machintruc]

He's an example of SLE, right ?

quotes:

"I deal with painting as I deal with things, I paint a window just as I look out of a window. If an open window looks wrong in a picture, I draw the curtain and shut it, just as I would in my own room. In painting, as in life, you must act directly."

"It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child."

"For me, there are two kinds of women — goddesses and doormats."

"The artist is a receptacle for emotions derived from anywhere: from the sky, from the earth, from a piece of paper, from a passing figure, from a spider’s web. This is a spider ’s web. This is why one must not make a distinction between things. For them there are no aristocratic quarterings. One must take things where one finds them."

"Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."

"Art is never chaste. It ought to be forbidden to ignorant innocents, never allowed into contact with those not sufficiently prepared. Yes, art is dangerous. Where it is chaste, it is not art."

"I can hardly understand the importance given to the word research in connection with modern painting. In my opinion to search means nothing in painting. To find is the thing. Nobody is interested in following a man who, with his eyes fixed on the ground, spends his life looking for the purse that fortune should put in his path. The one who finds something no matter what it might be, even if his intention were not to search for it, at least arouses our curiosity, if not our admiration."

"I do not seek, I find."

"It means nothing to me. I have no opinion about it, and I don't care."

" ... this bull is a bull and this horse is a horse... If you give a meaning to certain things in my paintings it may be very true, but it is not my idea to give this meaning. What ideas and conclusions you have got I obtained too, but instinctively, unconsciously. I make the painting for the painting. I paint the objects for what they are."

"Accidents, try to change them - it's impossible. The accidental reveals man."

"We all know that Art is not truth. Art is a lie that makes us realize truth, at least the truth that is given us to understand. The artist must know the manner whereby to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies. If he only shows in his work that he has searched, and re-searched, for the way to put over lies, he would never accomplish anything."

[liveandletlive]

he has some mighty large hands

[Creepy-bg]

he has some mighty large hands

[machintruc]

he has some mighty large hands

It's the thing.

[liveandletlive]

he has some mighty large hands

bionic- did we just have a bonding moment?!?!

[Expat]

From what I do know of his life, I think SLE is very plausible.

[Rick]

From what I do know of his life, I think SLE is very plausible.

What, for instance? All I know is that he was quite a badass and had many women.
I have always felt cubism was a dominant form of artistic expression.

[Expat]

From what I do know of his life, I think SLE is very plausible.

What, for instance? All I know is that he was quite a badass and had many women.

Not just that -- I've read that he left women easily, yet was shocked if one left him, and was also said to "forbid" his exs from having other men -- something also said of Caligula.

I have always felt cubism was a dominant form of artistic expression.

I think it is Ni as well as Ti, at least more Ni than Ne.l

If not SLE, then LSI, I think.

[Blaze]

he has some mighty large hands

[ThePeddler]

he has some mighty large hands

It's the thing.

...or it could be the whole -it's bread- thing...

[Suomea]

Anyone see all the paintings of the bull fights where instead of a bull there's a penis? Very Aggressor/Victim me thinks. Don't like most of his work, but really liked those.

P.S. I agree with the SLE typing.

[Expat]

By the way, I don't know if a serious biographer of Picasso would agree with it, but someone has suggested that Picasso was totally cynical about cubism (at least after the initial success) and used it merely as way to increase notoriety and wealth. He was a hugely talented painter who could paint in any style he wished, yet went for cubism as a way to con the public.

If true, it reminds me of Andy Warhol, in whose private rooms nothing but classical paintings were found after he died -- no "modern" stuff at all.

And if true, Picasso would be laughing at all those who went ga-ga over his cubist paintings.

[Expat]

I just remembered, that "someone" was the British author Paul Johnson, who wrote a great deal on Picasso. Not sure if many others share his views. I don't claim to even understand what's great about cubism, myself.

[Exodus]

I thought Picasso was ESFp initially, but I see some reasons for Ne-leading.

[Creepy-bg]

bionic- did we just have a bonding moment?!?!

omg! i think so

[liveandletlive]

omg! i think so

<3<3<3<3<3

'tis a christmas miracle!

[Amber]

Picasso is ESi- Se. dunno why he's typed sle around.


“Art seems to me to be a state of soul more than anything else.”

“The urge to destroy is also a creative urge.”

“What do you think an artist is? ...he is a political being, constantly aware of the heart breaking, passionate, or delightful things that happen in the world, shaping himself completely in their image. Painting is not done to decorate apartments. It is an instrument of war.”

“Colors, like features, follow the changes of the emotions. ”

“The artist is a receptacle for emotions that come from all over the place: from the sky, from the earth, from a scrap of paper, from a passing shape, from a spider's web. ”

“Art washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life”

[strrrng]

he VIs Se and some of his quotes have a certain internal extremity... but I wouldn't say SEE

[1981slater]

mmm.....IEE?

[Beautiful sky]

LSI or SLI. SEE is possibly due to his expression of color yet I find that it may be a S thing and all these type have a handsome S.

[silke]

SLE-Se

I would guess soc-first most likely so/sx

[Kill4Me]

sle-se 8w9-4w3-7w6 sx/sp

[inaLim]

SLE 8 Sx first or second. Read his poetry.




odalisque in aspic

stunted
short
visionary dwarf
snatch level
too much too much
pussy panorama
cut the crap
lay on your back
change of venue
blue blue
dark clouds too
snatch of black cotton
100% virgin
feminine products need not apply
c’mon
but wait
no more shit
but where’s our precious depths
lost our thoughts
consciousness raised
to new depths
then lost
as if fucking weren’t enough
but hey
look
just drop it
no asking for a hand now the clap is extinct
vagina fungus a dinosaur
what we’ve all been working for, right
the liberated cunt
without love
without guilt

sure, but meantime it’ll kill you
homicidal inundation
or better yet
you’ll go blind looking for it

[on a peaceful hiatus]

IEI

[inaLim]

Not a good man, sadly.

The woman he began having an affair with while still with Marie-Thérèse was Dora Maar. She suffered a total breakdown after finding out about his affair with Françoise Gilot in 1945, and once said “as an artist you may be extraordinary, but morally speaking you are worthless.”

Compulsively unfaithful, Picasso collected models, slept with them, and brutalized them, alternating icy control — he demanded submissiveness in all things, and warned one woman, Francoise Gilot, that as far as he was concerned, women were "either goddesses or doormats" — with horrific physical violence. Picasso pinned Gilot to a bridge railing and threatened to throw her into the river for seeming "ungrateful;" when she tried to leave, he held a lit cigarette to her cheek to brand her. He forced Dora Maar to physically fight Marie-Therese Walter, the mother of his child, for his affections — he stayed in the room throughout the brawl, painting — and beat Maar into unconsciousness himself on at least one occasion.

[khcs]

Pablo Picasso - ISFP Dumas

[Expansion]

SEE: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/...picasso-quotes

Ethical distances. It's a life narrative of good and bad, right and wrong positions, all by the lights of aesthetic qualities by the soul, not the head. No where is it in a detached logical state, where it is systematizing things impersonally by T things.

If F is color, then T is white.

[Finaplex]

SEE: https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/...picasso-quotes

Ethical distances. It's a life narrative of good and bad, right and wrong positions, all by the lights of aesthetic qualities by the soul, not the head. No where is it in a detached logical state, where it is systematizing things impersonally by T things.

If F is color, then T is white.

No. He was so vulnerable and meek.

I think type him Se activated-suggested, if anything.

My typing for him is INFp/INFj.

It seems he thrived under care taking, which could be interpreted in a number of ways.

[Expansion]

No. He was so vulnerable and meek.

I think type him Se activated-suggested, if anything.

My typing for him is INFp/INFj.

It seems he thrived under care taking, which could be interpreted in a number of ways.

People reply in this thread framing T because F are empathy types in stereotypical fashion, and do not objectivfy people as objects of use barring F.

SEE are capable here, i can enumerate the details, he's passed on but i won't.

[Not A Communist Shill]

I've typed him IEI for some time now. In the Big Five, he was probably below average in terms of Agreeableness.

He was very inventive in multiple genres of art (created many of them too, essentially). Most probably the greatest artist of all time.

He was very much an idealist in terms of politics.

His art was generally abstract or at least detached, his portraits of people were often not lifelike (they often were grotesque or over-exaggerated to depict some emotion).

His art was generally not very effusive, extroverted in his depiction of people, even outside of his Blue Period. I wouldn't say he was an obvious extrovert in any case, although he did enjoy socializing. He also enjoyed solitude in order to create his art - probably naturally more of a night owl.

[Sol]

Most probably the greatest artist of all time.

He was mainly painting actor, who cared about overal impression more than esthetics. His famouse art has good NF side, but by the cost of being weird in S. If he'd could to match good both sides - then could be said as outstanding.
He was mediocre in the common painting sense, accented on S. And his art taken wholy as S+N is mediocre too.