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    Something I've read about her is that she is very concerned about having absolute control about every part of everything she's done in her career. Like she won't let anyone else decide anything, no matter how small it is.

    Also, she has terrible trouble with stage fright.

    That's all I've read that stands out to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    Something I've read about her is that she is very concerned about having absolute control about every part of everything she's done in her career. Like she won't let anyone else decide anything, no matter how small it is.

    Also, she has terrible trouble with stage fright.

    That's all I've read that stands out to me.
    seems about right

    i thought she was a Ni/Se type

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    She's another person that's always bothered me for some reason, even as a little kid. I had an SEE friend who was a huge fan though.
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    Control freak, total drama queen- makes up problems to make life appear interesting. Stabbed the gay community in the back, when it was the original Old Gays that made her famous in the first place. Narcissistic and thankless.

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    Also Joy, your signature sucks, as while it is of course true that true energy feels very good and energetic, you must still direct that properly otherwise you will do pointless shit and just waste your time. You gotta prioritize your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Also Joy, your signature sucks
    Interesting, I was planning on changing it yesterday and forgot. I'll do it now. Here's the quote BulletsAndDoves is referring to, in case anyone's wondering:

    "Energy is a moral virtue, its opposing vice being laziness. As a virtue, it can be cultivated, and the lazy man can become energetic by forcibly arousing himself to exertion. Compared with the energetic man, the lazy man is not half alive. Even while the latter is talking about the difficulty of doing a thing, the former is doing it." -James Allen

    as while it is of course true that true energy feels very good and energetic, you must still direct that properly otherwise you will do pointless shit and just waste your time. You gotta prioritize your life.
    The book I got the quote from does address this concern. One's sig can only be so long though.
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    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...streisand.html
    http://thinkexist.com/quotes/barbra_streisand/

    The man vs. woman thing gets old quickly when reading her quotes. (I'm glad I finally got over that issue. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    The man vs. woman thing gets old quickly when reading her quotes. )
    Yes. My ESE husband can't stand her and neither can my SEI dad but I think it's the feminism and politics that rub them the wrong way. She's definitely full of herself. I wonder what type James Brolin is.
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    I think she's ILI. Or possibly SEE. But probably ILI...
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    I think she's an introvert. I think maybe ESI, but I'm not sure.

    Vague impression though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Seems α to me
    translation: jewish
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by borderline View Post
    translation: jewish
    that's funny, didn't I read someone say on here once that all jews were ILI? Make up your minds now, that's two opposing quadras...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Lol. Technically Jews should be Gamma Quadra since they have all the money, right?
    according to the Nazis anyway...
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    Streisand is incredibly schmaltzy and all her songs overflow with sentimentality. An ILI addressing such emotional subject matter would be much more elliptical and circumspect, with titles like "The Way We Were" rendered as "Observations on Intersubjectivity Inherent within Synergetics". That's an exaggeration of course (...???), but since ILIs suppress emotional displays that lack genuine spontaneity and are generally private about their affections, they'd find it quite taxing to perform Streisand's trademark songs night after night. Doing so would most likely make them feel corny, cynical, and fake.

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    Well, I read "Barbra Streisand" and my brain popped out "ESE"; never really thought about it before. Maybe I'll take a new look at her later and see if any other ideas spring to mind. ILI seems ... very odd to me as a possible type for her.

    EIE--where is the Betaness? Hm. EJ could work, though.
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    If you think Streisand is anything other than ESFj go back and relearn socionics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    If you think Streisand is anything other than ESFj go back and relearn socionics
    Sorry if this came off as really harsh to anyone who doesn't say ESFj for Streisand, I made it with no particular person in mind. I hadn't read anybody else's opinions on the matter, so bear in mind that this isn't directed any one specific person over another. So yeah, I apologize to anyone who read that in a distasteful way, as it was meant more for humorous effect than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    I think she's ILI. Or possibly SEE. But probably ILI...
    You're not sure if she's ILI or SEE? How is this possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    You're not sure if she's ILI or SEE? How is this possible?
    Well, I mostly based this on roles that I've seen her play. And in the shows I've seen her in since learning Socionics, I've seen one SEE (Funny Girl), one ESE (Hello, Dolly!), and one possibly ILI (Yentl).

    Okay, so I can let go of ILI for her...But, I still think she's probably more Fi than Fe, after watching bits and parts of her interviews and stuff.

    Can anyone disprove SEE?
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    I don't know much about her roles other than that she often has a ventilating type of Jewish comedic style, like Woody Allen, Larry David, etc.. (not comparing their types.. I'm just talking about her niche with performance). What's more interesting to me how much power she wants to wield.. how many fundraisers she gets involved in, how many parties she throws during election season. She's more known for this nowadays than anything to do with entertainment. She also seems to be a control freak of some sort. Like the story a few years back where she tried to threaten to sue a guy for posting aerial photos of her home on the internet. The story went public and backfired on her (which became known as the Streisand effect).

    Also, she has a seemingly good marriage with actor James Brolin. Not sure if that helps in typing her, but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianosinger View Post
    Can anyone disprove SEE?
    There's nothing to "disprove" in an exchange of unverifiable opinions. You'll have to settle for counter-argument.

    In interviews Streisand is booooooooooooooooring. It's just a linear repetition of banal shoptalk. Her speech is devoid of the colorful expressions, liveliness, or lateral thinking I'm accustomed to seeing from SEEs. Her "jokes" are flat and forced. The playfulness I'd expect from Fi-SEEs is absent, as is the button-pushing common to Se-SEEs; there's no absurdist peek-a-boo humor at all. Dull. She's too self-possessed and controlling, which indicates EJ temperament more than EP. Same with the look in her eyes. And I know duality isn't auto-magic but I sat through 9 or 10 videos and her appearance, voice, mannerisms, attitude, lyrics, undisguised romantic nostalgia, and facial expressions just filled me with revulsion. Bleeearghhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsey View Post
    She's too self-possessed and controlling, which indicates EJ temperament more than EP.
    this indicates J only

    And I know duality isn't auto-magic
    Impression from duals is "auto-magic". It's not a result of some kind of work. More close realtions and more ingenuous information are appreciated, nothing more.

    but I sat through 9 or 10 videos and her appearance, voice, mannerisms, attitude, lyrics, undisguised romantic nostalgia, and facial expressions just filled me with revulsion. Bleeearghhh.
    You may look at ISFJ-women in my list, videos with these people. If you feel same - your type is not ENTJ, at least. If the situation will repeat for ESFP, then not INTP too. Etc.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    commonly typed ISFP in mbti. ESI-Fi plus some "heart" Enneatype like E2 sounds acceptable. Sensing-Feeling anyway.

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    Identical Inter-type Relationship


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    pretty sure she's an Fi valuer

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Nobody ever considered SLI?
    there is, at least, 1/16 chance for any type. so you are not alone
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Yup, Fi valuing. Maybe Fi ego, but I have no idea what type she might be. Might be ExI.

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