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Last edited by Dee; 02-26-2009 at 02:16 AM.
I don't know which I pay more attention to. I love the words, and the music, and the relationship between the words and the music. Hmmmm. Words in a song are important to me though. If the tune is good but the lyrics aren't, I will never be able to entirely like the song. I'll always be thinking, "What stupid lyrics!" But if the lyrics are good but the tune isn't that great I can let the bad tune go. I guess that puts me on the "lyrics" end, doesn't it?
OK so I'll say lyrics, and I'm IEE. I can't remember if IEEs are "e" or "c" because I think the reinen dichotomies are blown out of proportion, but I know I'm static.
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You need to get a better grip on these concepts before you start messing with them in the real world, dee.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I don't know if I prefer the lyrics or the music - they are both important. I kinda of like concept albums, or albums with an overall theme, so that all the songs seems relevant to the whole, both musically and lyrically. I like music that allows time for reflection on what is said, like Pink Floyd's infamous album, and Low by Mr. Bowie - the lyrics might be rather sparse and vague on occasion, but the lyrics certainly form an important part. But, I also like albums like Neu! '75 by Neu!, which has hardly any lyrics (especially any that make sense) - I think the important thing for me about concept albums is that they have a certain theme or mood I can return to - I thought I was a Construvist, though some have suggested I may actually be an Emotivist...I'm definitely a Static though.
(Gosh, I love music ).
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To me the music and singer's voice is more important than the lyrics. Half the time I have no idea what the lyrics of a song are I just like how it sounds. I think this may be why I like listening to music in foreign languages. So that would make me Music, Static, Constructivist.
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Lyrics are totally superfluous; good music doesn't need lyrics to evoke an emotional response.
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Umm.. What if I listen to music with no lyrics?
Anyway, there's a similar thread posted some time ago.
Personally, I have no idea what I prefer. I think it depends.
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Music doesn't *need* lyrics... but they certainly help to affix that emotional response in memory. At least mine. The music I favor always has some relevance to my current circumstances. Lyrics and melody together combining together to mirror my internal dynamic has the strongest emotional response.Originally Posted by drd252
I guess that's what I tend to like. Music that evokes the most powerful relevant "sympathos" response.
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Originally Posted by Mark Twain
I nearly always start listening to a song by listening to the overall musical sound; I do listen to lyrics but that only occurs once I'm familiar with the overall musical.. not "structure" as such, but the overall.. musicness for lack of a better term. When I've given the song a fair few listens and am familiar with the music, that's when I start listening to the lyrics. So the music being good is a pre-requisite to liking the song; I can tolerate bad lyrics better than bad music. If the lyrics are too bad though, this can still put me off the song.
I'm dynamic and, according to Wikisocion, I'm constructivist.
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I get hooked by the lyrics. Bad music can almost ruin a song but if the lyrics are good, I just lament what could have been and take solace in the fact that in my head, it was better. Bad lyrics make me mad, makes a song completely pointless for me personally, although I can understand other people being into the beat and whatnot. I prefer lyrics that speak to the human experience. Crafty and clever take a back seat to emotionally resonant.
A great singer can make bad lyrics and/or music okay, with the emotion of the performance.
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I pay more attention naturally to the beat, then the words, then the "music."
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
meOriginally Posted by coolguy89
I pay more attention naturally to the beat, then the "music.", then the words,
lol
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
the isfps agree!
i just love the beat of a song, that is partly why i listen to so much foreign music, for i have no clue what the lyrics are.
beat>lyrics
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don't necessary i pay atention to lyrics. Instrumental rocks. So, music came first the the words. Hope of deliverance is a good example: I love the music, but i don't pay so much atention on the words. Anyway, i like dark lyrics of certain bands.
the funny thing is that most songs I've listened to so much that I know the lyrics by heart... but have never thought about what they mean
In my case, when i like the music that much, i try to look at the lyrics and found out their meaning.Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
I once told an estj that exact thought, and she shamed me and called me shallow.Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
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well I think it's shallow to call other people shallow
She was quite imposing, I couldn't say anything.Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
Though that is a great comeback.
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Lyrics are what make the song for me...in songs that have lyrics. I always try to find the 'meaning' (to me) in music. For that reason, lyrics always seemed to just be more satisfying. If I had to choose between a song with good lyrics and a bad beat or the reverse, I'll take the first. It isn't always the content of the words that gets me necessarily. There's also the way the performer sings them, the emotive force that they bring. At that point, the lyrics don't have to mean much to me, if the artist can give the impression that they mean something important to him/her. I do like instrumental music, particularly from Japanese composers/musicians (Nobuo Uematsu, Yasunori Mitsuda, Joe Hisaishi, etc) and hip hop beats sans lyrics. Oh, and I'm a static, constructivist.
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I know for a fact that I prefer instrumentals. When songs with lyrics come on, they have to be very, very high quality, otherwise I don't enjoy them. However, I have a lot more tolerance for instrumentals and songs with very few or repetitive lyrics. I think it's something about standing the risk that the song could be cheesy in some way. I know I've deleted many songs from iTunes from decent enough albums, but they always contain one shit, cliched song which has to go. Even the music can be average if the song contains some kind of values that I hold. I have a Breaking Benjamin song I've kept solely because it has the lyrics "only the strongest will survive", and I like the energy it generates. I normally despise teen metal and rock bands a la Sum 41, MCR, and the stuff they used to and probably still do play on Kerrang! when I was 12 or 13.
My vote is for tune. The music is most important to me. Lyrics are good when the words match up with the tune and they more clearly define what the composer/writer is trying to convey. Great lyrics in a song with an extreamly simple tune, or "bad" sounding tune, I will listen to but I don't experience this as music as much as I do listening to a story or poem.
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