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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
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    more like a Se ego, but seems more Fe valuing, perhaps
    not excluding LSI, from looking at the other videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    more like a Se ego, but seems more Fe valuing, perhaps
    not excluding LSI, from looking at the other videos
    Si more than Se and ethical (resting face without any make-up is quite telling to me). But there's only so much we can know from this vids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    No, her gaze is tough, cold - unpleasant for Delta

    LSI most likely
    seems introvert, but SLE is second most likely
    ESI is excluded, definitely, and SEI, SEE are highly unlikely

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    Her eyes are not the look of Se creative more like the Si calm 'void' in SEIs (not found in SLIs so far). But how much experience can you transfer through words in a post really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    Her eyes are not the look of Se creative more like the Si calm 'void' in SEIs (not found in SLIs so far). But how much experience can you transfer through words in a post really?
    If what you see as Si in SEI is not something you see in SLI - then your identification of at least one of the types is obviously problematic.
    She seems most like LSI, in my opinion. Without knowing your own type this is much harder to understand, as you cannot effectively use the IR to determine it. For example, if your true type is EIE, but you believe yourself to be ILE, then the positive and sympathetic feeling you more often than with other types get to LSI in IR will be more likely to be attributed to a SEI by you. The mistakes will be somewhat consistent, like your almost consistent typings of Fe valuers as IEE.

    Try to read the basic theory, to understand your type by confidently assessing the relations to you of people you know. Then VI will be much easier. You seem like an ethical type, at least. Maybe intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    If what you see as Si in SEI is not something you see in SLI - then your identification of at least one of the types is obviously problematic


    Type looks change from quadra to quadra and enhanced elements. What I see in Hunnibee I don't see in Andrey Tarkovsky, typed SLI by Gulenko nor in the SLI-Te I'm currently dealing with.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    She seems most like LSI, in my opinion.


    Her typing as SEI is rather noncontroversial IMO. Unfortunately we can't see her in other environments to get more information. I don't share your opinion that her gaze looks unpleasant in the way Beta ST eyes must look unpleasant to Deltas. John Travolta's eyes don't look like hers, they're rather warm yet his movements in those comedies (when acting) from the 90s indicate SLE.

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    @Rusal
    Ego functions especially, but also dichotomies will give resemblances in types. Mirror, kindred and look-a-like appear the most similar in their expression. ''Enhanced elements'' is just the individual and their enormous amount of non-type personality elements, inborn and learned.
    Tarkovsky is not SLI.

    >I don't share your opinion that her gaze looks unpleasant in the way Beta ST eyes must look unpleasant to Deltas.
    You're less likely to be Delta, then. She does not have a comfortable look.

    >John Travolta's eyes don't look like hers, they're rather warm yet his movements in those comedies (when acting) from the 90s indicate SLE.
    Probably SLE, yes. He appears less cold (he's an extravert, so he's more open), but warm? Not really - but moreso than the average SLE, I'll say. If you see him as ''warm'', then consider IEI, EIE.

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    @blaecaedre I will trust Gulenko over you for the same reason I tend to do: his typings match my perceptions. SLE-C's eyes the warmest (when in a good mood). My type has already been decided. I just don't post it. But I can tell you I have low perception of activity-dualization with Hunnibee hence: not LSI. And since it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you then the disconnect I perceive from HunniBee cannot indicate mine would her would be a rewarding one...no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    But I can tell you I have low perception of activity-dualization with Hunnibee hence: not LSI. And since it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you then the disconnect I perceive from HunniBee cannot indicate mine would her would be a rewarding one...no?
    Liking SLE but disliking LSI - possible for SEI, ILI. As there's no video of you, I'm not confident in any.

    >it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you
    It can. People usually like their preferred first dichotomy more, and ethical types may see their preferred logic as ''warm'' in their own weird way. It's usually associated with ethics, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    Liking SLE but disliking LSI - possible for SEI, ILI. As there's no video of you, I'm not confident in any
    Ah, but I don't dislike LSIs, see. Real ones (check G. typing of forum members and his LSI typings to understand who I get along with). And IRL LSI are more accessible than SLEs when in a group. You're piling up a load of misconceptions there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    Ah, but I don't dislike LSIs, see. Real ones (check G. typing of forum members and his LSI typings to understand who I get along with). And IRL LSI are more accessible than SLEs when in a group. You're piling up a load of misconceptions there.
    Gulenko uses a lot of dubious speculation such as DCNH to justify his typings. Socionics is speculative enough as it is.
    >And IRL LSI are more accessible than SLEs when in a group.
    Yes, introverts are more accessible than extraverts. Totally not a misconception.

    Read the basic theory and try to apply it, then you'll better understand what is a misconception and what isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    Read the basic theory and try to apply it, then you'll better understand what is a misconception and what isn't.
    In the case of HunniBee we're not dealing with theory rather experience because of the very nature of material we have access to. People recognize favorable ITR subconsciously and her relaxed, somewhat tired eyes is not what an IEI (the fastest NF to kick it off with an LSI) would be looking for. Control, action over reality is what an IEI is looking for (because its dissipates their own problems with tangible reality with a Ti slant = refreshing for Beta NFs).- Funny that you make so much of the eyes and you think that soft, friendly, relaxed, dispersed not focused, glazed over stare Hunni has is what would make an IEI tick and close the distance. Get real...
    Beta NFs want subtle signs in body language and eyes for LSI that hint at precision, control and structure, ability to accept and move in a hierarchy/system. None of that is clear in Hunni. I think being opposite quadra is messing with your perceptions of what cues NFs are looking for, you speak 'likeability' but you don't understand it in Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
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    I find this girl very disgusting. No way she's an alpha SF. Don't understand what people like about this garbage. I find noises that people make while eating something very unpleasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
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    Umm.. hits right between SEI and ESE.

    But why SEI > ESE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Umm.. hits right between SEI and ESE.

    But why SEI > ESE?
    Girls like her tend to score introvert in more popular MBTI tests and they're not 'enthusiatically caretaking' as are ESEs.
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    Dougherty Dozen - ESE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggy iPad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggy iPad View Post
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    madison beer
    Attachment 17849
    Bit of a reach with the context and she didnt even made them but still might be interesting
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CgwW6...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=


    Channel 1 - 6


    The aspect of "sensing of experiences" (Si)

    Here LII will be activated by sensory care of SEI. At first he will be much impressed by this quality of his partner: someone is looking after him, worries where to place him at the table, what to feed him with. However, with time he begins to notice that the sensory aspect is perhaps given too much attention, from his point of view: "Don't make a cult out of a meal." That which his dual Huge (ESE) does from an overflow of emotions, SEI performs as a work of art. If ESE in one hour can prepare an entire feast (just bring him the ingredients and clean the dishes), SEI will take five hours to hover over one cake (and it would be a pity to even cut such a cake). If ESE will rarely make his partner wait for dinner, SEI in relations of activity will do this more and more often, as these relations will ignite in him all his sensory creativity, and inspire him to try to treat his partner to something exceptional.

    In addition, SEI won't let his partner to even grab a taste or have a snack - he needs to fully partake in that which was created for him with such zeal. Having come to the conclusion that perhaps SEI loves all this "craftsmanship" even more than his partner, LII attempts to shift his priorities and redirect SEI from sensing to ethics (that is, to impose the values of ​​his dual Hugo): teach him that human needs are primary, and food - it's just food, which, most importantly, should be served on time to not be a source of discord in the family. SEI, in turn, sees that all his efforts are not met with a well-deserved response, and because he cannot cook "just something", simply and quickly, he slows down and even stops doing anything because he feels that he doesn't know what to do now and how to please his partner. Thus one day, coming from work, Robespierre could be left without dinner: "I don't know what to cook, anything that I do is not right for you



    Quote Originally Posted by Laggy iPad View Post
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    Dasha taran
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    perhaps SEI

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    LII
    if not then LSI

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    Karen Puzzles ESE. She has some weird ass Ti seeking going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Karen Puzzles ESE. She has some weird ass Ti seeking going on.
    She kinda looks like Rusal

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    Quote Originally Posted by two View Post
    She kinda looks like Rusal

    BTW
    Finally some reel SF fingerprints.

    She is like equations OMG... hide.. save your ass.

    That being said I happen to know one ESE math teacher (she has MSc in mathematics). Freaks of nature do happen. She even acts like OMG hard stuff...help me... yet she has done something many logic won't even dare to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Freaks of nature do happen. She even acts like OMG hard stuff...help me... yet she has done something many logic won't even dare to try.
    That's because she is a fucking IEI and not an ESE lmao geez

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    Tom Cavanagh (ILE)



    I really liked him in Ed, which was probably a very Delta-esque show. Watched it when I was growing up.



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    Xiaomanyc - ESE
    “Things always seem fairer when we look back at them, and it is out of that inaccessible tower of the past that Longing leans and beckons.”
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    Julie Copper character (and actress probs) - ESE-si. Such a good character. Reminds me of my mum.

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    Jussi Halla-Aho LII-N

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    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    In the case of HunniBee we're not dealing with theory rather experience because of the very nature of material we have access to. People recognize favorable ITR subconsciously and her relaxed, somewhat tired eyes is not what an IEI (the fastest NF to kick it off with an LSI) would be looking for. Control, action over reality is what an IEI is looking for (because its dissipates their own problems with tangible reality with a Ti slant = refreshing for Beta NFs).- Funny that you make so much of the eyes and you think that soft, friendly, relaxed, dispersed not focused, glazed over stare Hunni has is what would make an IEI tick and close the distance. Get real...
    Beta NFs want subtle signs in body language and eyes for LSI that hint at precision, control and structure, ability to accept and move in a hierarchy/system. None of that is clear in Hunni. I think being opposite quadra is messing with your perceptions of what cues NFs are looking for, you speak 'likeability' but you don't understand it in Beta.
    Ya, exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Jussi Halla-Aho LII-N

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    Do you see a difference between this guy and Ehkart Tolle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    Do you see a difference between this guy and Ehkart Tolle?
    There are no subtitles but I can tell you that Halla-Aho is very analytical. Always to the point and nothing superfluous. I see him as clearly LII-N.

    I havn't warched Tolle for some years. I would have to do it again. But Tolle seems different, from what I remember.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    mb LII
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    not excluding ILE, IEI

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