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    Linus Tech Tips - INTJ


    Jade Wepener (left) - ENTP
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    Two deranged chatterboxes interviewing a man who with his wits and quirkiness makes it all a bit more tolerable

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    Karol Pollak – ILE dominant
    Karol Franciszek Pollak (November 15, 1859 – December 17, 1928) was a Polish electrotechnician, inventor and businessman.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karol_Pollak
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    Miss London - ILE-Ne

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    Jack Johnson SEI





    As Johnson told the Beastie Boys rapper, he and his band Limber Chicken initially planned on starting a Fugazi cover band before realizing that Fugazi’s music was actually “pretty complex.”
    “So then we figured out that they had Minor Threat ahead of time, that Ian [MacKaye] had been in Minor Threat [before Fugazi] and once we heard this we were like, ‘Okay, I think we can do this’ and so we became a Minor Threat cover band, that was like 90 percent of our repertoire,” Johnson said.
    “It was amazing time. I mean anybody who’s ever formed your first band or any band you know just knows that’s like the funniest thing in the world is just getting to get to your friends in the garage and making a bunch of music.”
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...1-show-195050/

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    Miss London - mb ENTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Miss London - mb ENTP
    omg is this me and Sol agreeing on something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    omg is this me and Sol agreeing on something?
    ~17% average typing match is not 0

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    when sol types people, the average typing match drops to 0.17%
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

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    “Over 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.” ― David Mitchell

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    Hyram - ENTP


    Shaaanxo - ESFJ


    Echo Gillette (BechoBirette) - ISFP


    Alex Hoffman (left) - ENTP
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    The Balanced Singer - ESFJ

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    Adam 'Nolly' Getgood LII




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    ESE,LII

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post

    ESE,LII
    SEE-IEI

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    Islam Makhachev ENTp



    ..you must become Khabib's succsesor... .......

    Ouch, Se-Role....
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    Vanness Wu - LII


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Soul View Post
    Vanness Wu - LII
    this guy doesn't look like an LII at all imo. wears way too much Jewellery. seems Se valuing to me.

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    SEE-IEI
    yeah the guy is definitely not an LII lol.

    James Veitch - ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    this guy doesn't look like an LII at all imo. wears way too much Jewellery. seems Se valuing to me.
    He seems to dislike Se though, he got divorced from his ex-wife who is an SEE. She loves partying too much and he couldn't tolerate her lifestyle.

    And I have known many Se types in my life. All the Se types that I've known, they are attracted to adrenaline rushes and they are either addicted to alcohol, or addicted to sex, or addicted to drugs, or they love staying out all night partying away. He doesn't seem able to tolerate any of these stuff, so he doesn't strike me as an Se type.

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    Maxime Vachier-Lagrave - LII



    https://youtu.be/FcJWiuLL2j8

    we are probably the worst people to do interviews with. I really relate to him struggling to answer even basic questions.
    my ideas about socionics:

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    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

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    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

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    Emmy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Linus Tech Tips - INTJ
    I have been watching a video of this guy to see if he's really an LII.

    https://youtu.be/DT3SInHr9ck

    @11:20, this guy literally nearly cries while testing some headphones. how is he an LII???
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    Hyram - ENTP
    same with this guy. going through his media, he totally seems like an F type.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B24lN-THkg5/
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I have been watching a video of this guy to see if he's really an LII.

    https://youtu.be/DT3SInHr9ck

    @11:20, this guy literally nearly cries while testing some headphones. how is he an LII???
    OK, I watched two and a half minutes of this video and I agree that the guy is not LII. I think he's ESE.

    On the other hand, white hat with glasses probably is LII. He has a lot of the same dorky microexpressions as my LII sister, who is also in tech.

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    Shia-LaBeouf ENTp (Tryhard Fe-Ha)



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    Crying headphone guy is probably ILE (Linus). His Te is all over the place localized in possible solutions.

    His Te runs quite wild... I must say mb dominant subtype hence less focused in Ti. He just wants to implement things like crazy. He has his Ti moments but ... very little patience because things are going good enough for him.


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    Einstein was an ILI. Aushra made a mistake back then when she typed almost every inventor or renowned scientist as ILE.

    Shia is most likely Se valuing

    https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0
    my ideas about socionics:

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    Quote Originally Posted by karas View Post
    Shia-LaBeouf ENTp (Tryhard Fe-Ha)





    woah Shia Labuff!

    He has been really hitting the juice, boy.

    Superficially I always thought of him as a SEI.

    edit: juice always gives guys a kind of kinesthetic "heavy" feel. Like their speech slows down.
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    Labuff seems SEI
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Einstein was an ILI. Aushra made a mistake back then when she typed almost every inventor or renowned scientist as ILE.

    Shia is most likely Se valuing
    Mark Zuckerberg ILI


    Psuedo-Aggressors/Employees: LIE (ENTj) ILI (INTp)

    These are types who exhibit aggressive tendencies in their everyday life, and as a result tend to carry over these notions and temperaments into their romantic life. They typically are not comfortable with connotations of the word "victim" - implying a certain weakness, effeteness, and lack of dignity. In searching for a partner, they are looking for a worthy opponent - someone who is strong enough to withstand their quirks without "breaking" so to speak.

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...otic-Attitudes

    Einstein is old

    Fake Se (Role Se) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6zb3bvwBRM

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    Mark Zuckerberg is an ILE
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    This is incredibly misleading and couldn't be further from wrong, or to phrase it another way, this is "not even wrong," as a real INTp would say (Wolfgang Pauli). We should support our beliefs with whats known as "supporting facts," or with the very least, an opinion based on something other than a feeling. Einstein, if anyone is familiar with him, is famous for saying "God does not play dice." What does that mean? It goes AGAINST the logic of his day which would have reduced quantum physics to the position of a calculator, a tool. The Copenhagen tradition accepts quantum phenomena as mere statistical probabilities, but Einstein, valuing clarity and Ti, knew there had to be more, there had to be meaning. Seth Lloyd? Te valuing. Einstein? Ti.

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    Channing Tatum SEI





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    Ne is generally associated with the ability to recognize possibilities, create new opportunities and new beginnings, recognize talent and natural propensities in others, reconcile differing perspectives and viewpoints, rapidly generate ideas, and be led by one's intellectual curiosity and stimulate curiosity in others.Types that value Ne prefer to try out an opportunity rather than consider all possible ways in which it could not work out. They pick a few options and stick with them, in contrast to introverted intuition (Ni) types who pick one option and continue to doubt that option. They enjoy discussing unusual insights into the nature of the world and crazy out-there ideas, like space elevators. Typical Ne quadra humor juxtaposes seemingly unrelated phenomena

    https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/...on_elements/Ne

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    Jung's Description of the Extraverted Intuitive Type (Ne-dominant)

    A verbatim excerpt taken from Chapter 10 of Carl Gustav Jung's work "Psychological Types" (1921):

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    (III) THE PECULIARITIES OF THE BASIC PSYCHOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS IN THE EXTRAVERTED ATTITUDE

    8. Intuition

    Intuition as the function of unconscious perception is wholly directed upon outer objects in the extraverted attitude. Because, in the main, intuition is an unconscious process, the conscious apprehension of its nature is a very difficult matter. In consciousness, the intuitive function is represented by a certain attitude of expectation, a perceptive and penetrating vision, wherein only the subsequent result can prove, in every case, how much was [p. 462] 'perceived-into', and how much actually lay in the object.


    Just as sensation, when given the priority, is not a mere reactive process of no further importance for the object, but is almost an action which seizes and shapes the object, so it is with intuition, which is by no means a mere perception, or awareness, but an active, creative process that builds into the object just as much as it takes out. But, because this process extracts the perception unconsciously, it also produces an unconscious effect in the object. The primary function of intuition is to transmit mere images, or perceptions of relations and conditions, which could be gained by the other functions, either not at all, or only by very roundabout ways. Such images have the value of definite discernments, and have a decisive bearing upon action, whenever intuition is given the chief weight; in which case, psychic adaptation is based almost exclusively upon intuition. Thinking, feeling, and sensation are relatively repressed; of these, sensation is the one principally affected, because, as the conscious function of sense, it offers the greatest obstacle to intuition. Sensation disturbs intuition's clear, unbiassed, na[umlaut]ive awareness with its importunate sensuous stimuli; for these direct the glance upon the physical superficies, hence upon the very things round and beyond which intuition tries to peer. But since intuition, in the extraverted attitude, has a prevailingly objective orientation, it actually comes very near to sensation; indeed, the expectant attitude towards outer objects may, with almost equal probability, avail itself of sensation. Hence, for intuition really to become paramount, sensation must to a large extent be suppressed. I am now speaking of sensation as the simple and direct sense-reaction, an almost definite physiological and psychic datum. This must be expressly established beforehand, because, if I ask the intuitive how he is [p. 463] orientated, he will speak of things which are quite indistinguishable from sense-perceptions. Frequently he will even make use of the term 'sensation'. He actually has sensations, but he is not guided by them per se, merely using them as directing-points for his distant vision. They are selected by unconscious expectation. Not the strongest sensation, in the physiological sense, obtains the crucial value, but any sensation whatsoever whose value happens to become considerably enhanced by reason of the intuitive's unconscious attitude. In this way it may eventually attain the leading position, appearing to the intuitive's consciousness indistinguishable from a pure sensation. But actually it is not so.


    Just as extraverted sensation strives to reach the highest pitch of actuality, because only thus can the appearance of a complete life be created, so intuition tries to encompass the greatest possibilities, since only through the awareness of possibilities is intuition fullysatisfied. Intuition seeks to discover possibilities in the objective situation; hence as a mere tributary function (viz. when not in the position of priority) it is also the instrument which, in the presence of a hopelessly blocked situation, works automatically towards the issue, which no other function could discover. Where intuition has the priority, every ordinary situation in life seems like a closed room, which intuition has to open. It is constantly seeking outlets and fresh possibilities in external life. In a very short time every actual situation becomes a prison to the intuitive; it burdens him like a chain, prompting a compelling need for solution. At times objects would seem to have an almost exaggerated value, should they chance to represent the idea of a severance or release that might lead to the discovery of a new possibility. Yet no sooner have they performed their office, serving intuition as a ladder or a bridge, than they [p. 464] appear to have no further value, and are discarded as mere burdensome appendages. A fact is acknowledged only in so far as it opens up fresh possibilities of advancing beyond it and of releasing the individual from its operation. Emerging possibilities are compelling motives from which intuition cannot escape and to which all else must be sacrificed.


    9. The Extraverted Intuitive Type


    Whenever intuition predominates, a particular and unmistakable psychology presents itself. Because intuition is orientated by the object, a decided dependence upon external situations is discernible, but it has an altogether different character from the dependence of the sensational type. The intuitive is never to be found among the generally recognized reality values, but he is always present where possibilities exist. He has a keen nose for things in the bud pregnant with future promise. He can never exist in stable, long-established conditions of generally acknowledged though limited value: because his eye is constantly ranging for new possibilities, stable conditions have an air of impending suffocation. He seizes hold of new objects and new ways with eager intensity, sometimes with extraordinary enthusiasm, only to abandon them cold-bloodedly, without regard and apparently without remembrance, as soon as their range becomes clearly defined and a promise of any considerable future development no longer clings to them. As long as a possibility exists, the intuitive is bound to it with thongs of fate. It is as though his whole life went out into the new situation. One gets the impression, which he himself shares, that he has just reached the definitive turning point in his life, and that from now on nothing else can seriously engage his thought and feeling. How- [p. 465] ever reasonable and opportune it may be, and although every conceivable argument speaks in favour of stability, a day will come when nothing will deter him from regarding as a prison, the self-same situation that seemed to promise him freedom and deliverance, and from acting accordingly. Neither reason nor feeling can restrain or discourage him from a new possibility, even though it may run counter to convictions hitherto unquestioned. Thinking and feeling, the indispensable components of conviction, are, with him, inferior functions, possessing no decisive weight; hence they lack the power to offer any lasting. resistance to the force of intuition. And yet these are the only functions that are capable of creating any effectual compensation to the supremacy of intuition, since they can provide the intuitive with that judgment in which his type is altogether lacking. The morality of the intuitive is governed neither by intellect nor by feeling; he has his own characteristic morality, which consists in a loyalty to his intuitive view of things and a voluntary submission to its authority, Consideration for the welfare of his neighbours is weak. No solid argument hinges upon their well-being any more than upon his own. Neither can we detect in him any great respect for his neighbour's convictions and customs; in fact, he is not infrequently put down as an immoral and ruthless adventurer. Since his intuition is largely concerned with outer objects, scenting out external possibilities, he readily applies himself to callings wherein he may expand his abilities in many directions. Merchants, contractors, speculators, agents, politicians, etc., commonly belong to this type.


    Apparently this type is more prone to favour women than men; in which case, however, the intuitive activity reveals itself not so much in the professional as in the social sphere. Such women understand the art of utilizing every social opportunity; they establish right social con- [p. 466] nections; they seek out lovers with possibilities only to abandon everything again for the sake of a new possibility.


    It is at once clear, both from the standpoint of political economy and on grounds of general culture, that such a type is uncommonly important. If well-intentioned, with an orientation to life not purely egoistical, he may render exceptional service as the promoter, if not the initiator of every kind of promising enterprise. He is the natural advocate of every minority that holds the seed of future promise. Because of his capacity, when orientated more towards men than things, to make an intuitive diagnosis of their abilities and range of usefulness, he can also 'make' men. His capacity to inspire his fellow-men with courage, or to kindle enthusiasm for something new, is unrivalled, although he may have forsworn it by the morrow. The more powerful and vivid his intuition, the more is his subject fused and blended with the divined possibility. He animates it; he presents it in plastic shape and with convincing fire; he almost embodies it. It is not a mere histrionic display, but a fate.


    This attitude has immense dangers -- all too easily the intuitive may squander his life. He spends himself animating men and things, spreading around him an abundance of life -- a life, however, which others live, not he. Were he able to rest with the actual thing, he would gather the fruit of his labours; yet all too soon must he be running after some fresh possibility, quitting his newly planted field, while others reap the harvest. In the end he goes empty away. But when the intuitive lets things reach such a pitch, he also has the unconscious against him. The unconscious of the intuitive has a certain similarity with that of the sensation-type. Thinking and feeling, being relatively repressed, produce infantile and archaic thoughts and feelings in the unconscious, which may be compared [p. 467] with those of the countertype. They likewise come to the surface in the form of intensive projections, and are just as absurd as those of the sensation-type, only to my mind they lack the other's mystical character; they are chiefly concerned with quasi-actual things, in the nature of sexual, financial, and other hazards, as, for instance, suspicions of approaching illness. This difference appears to be due to a repression of the sensations of actual things. These latter usually command attention in the shape of a sudden entanglement with a most unsuitable woman, or, in the case of a woman, with a thoroughly unsuitable man; and this is simply the result of their unwitting contact with the sphere of archaic sensations. But its consequence is an unconsciously compelling tie to an object of incontestable futility. Such an event is already a compulsive symptom, which is also thoroughly characteristic of this type. In common with the sensation-type, he claims a similar freedom and exemption from all restraint, since he suffers no submission of his decisions to rational judgment, relying entirely upon the perception of chance, possibilities. He rids himself of the restrictions of reason, only to fall a victim to unconscious neurotic compulsions in the form of oversubtle, negative reasoning, hair-splitting dialectics, and a compulsive tie to the sensation of the object. His conscious attitude, both to the sensation and the sensed object, is one of sovereign superiority and disregard. Not that he means to be inconsiderate or superior -- he simply does not see the object that everyone else sees; his oblivion is similar to that of the sensation-type -- only, with the latter, the soul of the object is missed. For this oblivion the object sooner or later takes revenge in the form of hypochondriacal, compulsive ideas, phobias, and every imaginable kind of absurd bodily sensation. [p. 468]


    https://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm

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    o0o0o0o these niggas just got PWNED!! How they gonna tell us about our own Quadra?? tf outta here with ignant-ass "the founder of socionics made a mistake." Yeah, not everyone is ILE, Einstein was a playa-pimp tho so maybe ILE over LII.

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