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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    ILE - talks about bullet journals

    she also seems like an IEI to me. an english video would have been better

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxTmn3YBeFk

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    Mark Rober ESE
    MrBeast SEI
    both are LIE

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    Go Sports Girl - Ne-ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    she also seems like an IEI to me. an english video would have been better

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxTmn3YBeFk



    ENxJ, leaning towards LIE



    both are LIE
    If the second girl is LIE then I'm definitely SEI! Good troll lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existential Ibuprofen View Post
    Are you a troll?
    Why? I don't know her type for sure, but I've met girls like her and when you got close to them they seem ethical rather than logical, so IEI with strong Ti or ILE with strengthened ethics makes sense, nothing so out there that warrants calling people a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    Why? I don't know her type for sure, but I've met girls like her and when you got close to them they seem ethical rather than logical, so IEI with strong Ti or ILE with strengthened ethics makes sense, nothing so out there that warrants calling people a troll.
    IEI is not typically nearly as logical as EII.
    Anyway, what she does here is static analysis of scenes. The way it represents itself is in Ne->Se realm with creative logic. "I was looking for something and I found.. This is what we have at hand. It works like this and this category is a subcategory of something else."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Existential Ibuprofen View Post
    Anyway, what she does here is static analysis of scenes. The way it represents itself is in Ne->Se realm with creative logic. "I was looking for something and I found.. This is what we have at hand. It works like this and this category is a subcategory of something else."
    OK but I'm personally at a stage where I try to avoid steeping too much into this particular thing you do up here. I'll confess I haven't seen much material.



    This girl maybe ESE

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    ILE:



    Also ILE:


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    John Guttag LII (harmonizing it seems)
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    Thaina Morango [2:27] - ISFP

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    ILE (creative)
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    Is the boss of the lamborghini the ILE ? the one that assembled the team ?
    Funnily enough i had a similar idea just today on how to make money as an ILE and the key is delegation and short projects that you kickstart and let others take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post
    Is the boss of the lamborghini the ILE ? the one that assembled the team ?
    Funnily enough i had a similar idea just today on how to make money as an ILE and the key is delegation and short projects that you kickstart and let others take over.

    The ILE is the video's narrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Thaina Morango [2:27] - ISFP
    looks beta NF, very expressive extroverted eyes. mb EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    The ILE is the video's narrator.
    That's why i wanted to ask since i was wondering if it could be the narrator instead, but since he doesn't talk about ideas of his own, I couldn't tell if he is or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post
    hate to say it, but IEI-N



    I wonder if many beta NF women dye their hair in very bright, expressive colours as a sort of contrast to a world in which business suits and subdued emotions are most valued
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
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    I wonder if many beta NF women dye their hair in very bright, expressive colours as a sort of contrast to a world in which business suits and subdued emotions are most valued
    Based on what metrics did you type her IEI, she's so hands on and practical and have an Si approach to everything, i watched many of her videos, nothing beta about her, or intuitive.

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    It's been a long time since I've watched any of Styx's videos - I used to watch him regularly up until about 2018 or so - but I've always thought he was probably LII. What do you guys think? At the very least I think he's either Alpha or Beta
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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    What do you guys think? At the very least I think he's either Alpha or Beta
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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post
    She definitely seems creative Fe, but more IEI, so I agree with Alive on this one. The thing about SEI is that the Si base just makes them kindof simple and they might have problems speaking fluently. It's as if they have a clouded consciousness, not dreamy, but just earthy and lost in sense impressions that they are not even aware of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post
    Based on what metrics did you type her IEI, she's so hands on and practical and have an Si approach to everything, i watched many of her videos, nothing beta about her, or intuitive.

    The ‘zone’ she's in in her video seems to be rather natural to her so changing gears to Si dynamic when the camera is off sounds like a leap of faith on our part. No discernable Fi either, my impression of her does not correspond to other types so IEI is not bad typing.

    Regarding the “Si approach” you're partly right, but I also think less focus should be put on specific activities here and there and more on ITR to get closer to correct typing. If case you're interested: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-out-about-IEs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    She definitely seems creative Fe, but more IEI, so I agree with Alive on this one. The thing about SEI is that the Si base just makes them kindof simple and they might have problems speaking fluently.

    Oh, not simple and definitely fluent the ones I met. Too fluent I'd say so they cast that Si spell and they can keep you there for hours on end if it were up to them, but it feels claustrophobic after a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post
    Based on what metrics did you type her IEI, she's so hands on and practical and have an Si approach to everything, i watched many of her videos, nothing beta about her, or intuitive.
    "An Si approach to everything". What does this mean? I watched some videos but I didn't see much "Si approach". Her aesthetics are not typical Si, she's too artificial. Painting her home is not Si, could just be Se seeking etc.

    Si aesthetics is typically genuine and natural. Of course not all SEIs express this, but they respect the "soul" of the material.

    Her practical solutions at home seem a little too conceptual to come from a sensor.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    I agree with the Si aesthetics is that they're genuine and natural, which is why i think this girl is SEI, her art is from what i've seen and you can confirm by checking her other videos or her instagram, to consist of only female portraits, with no conceptualisations behind, just different iterations of soothing portraits done with a great attention to details and craftsmanship.

    I never seen her talk or draw something akin of Ni or something that have a meaning. She's practical, and i see no conceptualisation from her home, it's just basic decoration and play on colors, keep in mind she's a designer and went to art school. She kept the same style of her when she went to artschool and after she came out of it, she only enhanced her techniques of drawing.

    As for speaking fluently, she's speaking for her domain of expertise, so i don't see why she would second guess herself.
    Here's her instagram if you want to check her art: https://www.instagram.com/sarucatepes/

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin View Post

    As for speaking fluently, she's speaking for her domain of expertise, so i don't see why she would second guess herself.
    The way she speaks just doesn't seem very SEI. She is too connected to her mental processes.

    Here's her instagram if you want to check her art: https://www.instagram.com/sarucatepes/
    Thanks. That art seems intuitive. Archetypal feminine with big eyes and lips and wavy hair. The hair is drawn in a stylish way, The "idea" of wavy hair. It's not natural at all.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Is that an Ne-subtype ILE?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    Is that an Ne-subtype ILE?

    I doubt. Could be IEE. They seem to dabble more with aggression especially verbally.
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    Daniel Thrasher: IEI

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    Dean Radin maybe ILE:
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    Gilbert Strang, LII
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    A series of unfortunate events is very polr Se and the most LII show I’ve ever watched

    even the actors look alpha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toro View Post
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    she does not seem like an ESE to me at all. seems intuitive, looks away from the camera, seems almost absent-minded. difficult topic to talk about sure but I find it very difficult to see an ESE here. compare her to this person:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpYsYkSgOFw
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    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Aldrich Ames - ILE


    He was a double agent who exposed another double agent Andrei Polyakov.

    In short his original personality:
    He had a huge inattention to detail.
    His teeth were yellowed.
    He did not change clothes regularly.
    He left items behind him.
    He was described as an absent minded professor.
    Money/material did not mean much to him.
    He was a chill jokester.

    What happened?
    He married a Columbian woman.
    Suddenly there was a pressure to make more money.
    His persona changed a lot and he became arrogant. He also got his teeth fixed, bought a car, an expensive house and some clothes.
    He had a perfect cover story because his wife had a rich Columbian family.
    He had his back covered in theory but a vote by coworkers (probably due to changed behavior) put him to a suspect list.
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    looks Ni base tbh
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    he looks very ILE to me.
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    ILE -Creative

    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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