probably LII
probably LII
ILE-Ne
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^ True, very true.
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None of the people on this page seem alpha to me. That guy in india seems more LIE, the make-up girl IEI
seems irrational and intuitive, so maybeOriginally Posted by Alive
not excluding a logician
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Sabine Hossenfelder LII
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Dr. Mike ESE
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Sabine Hossenfelder has the same smile as Douglas Hofstadter, who I would type as IEI
https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...Hofstadter.png
Intuitive, maybe irrational
Possibly IEE, IEI
or even EIE
Yeah I agree. For a time I thought she was a Ti sub type LSI, but Northstar pointed out LII which ultimately made more sense. Its not really casual determinist thinking we are seeing in Sabine, but holographic. "As Statics, Holographers attain reliable precision of thought. As Negativists they periodically turn the object of thought to its opposite side. As Involutionary types, they sporadically change the angle of examination or criterion of judgment."
ugh just go home, call it a night.
this girl is fairly entertaining, what makes you say ILE? As opposed to IEI? On another note, she has a very similar persona to a young Lady Gaga.
>Talks about perception of time
>somehow Ti base instead of Ni base
Sure
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As a physicist one would be very interested in the concept of time, as through the lens of Ti. Plus that candle video is extremely Fe cringe. Some kind of INTj humour. This flat affect is Fe?
I'm not sure you understand Ni at all.
ever considered that physics is Ni? and that most physicists are Ni base types? but what do I know.
given your propensity towards bad IEI typings, clearly, not much.
yes, instead, LII make goofy Fe music videos and sing at a beach despite being a withdrawn logical type. makes 100% more sense. I can't compete with your view. you have it all figured out.
Watch the video a second time and then watch past the song, where Sabine explains herself in a darkly lit office. Seems far more "withdrawn logical type". Sabine is actually a poster child for LII females, glad she was brought up.
I really think many people here do not understand Alpha NT at all, but it might be because we simply are not interested in the spotlight or presenting ourselves. Might be a lack of actual famous examples to study from. If people really think that LII make music videos while studying physics and write books with a butterfly front cover, they really haven't understood this type (or irrationality).
totally an unemotional logical type and not a person who wants to express her emotions in an artistic way Ni + Fe
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Dual baiting. Pretty standard. Well known phenomena and I'm surprised you are not familiar with it yet.
And I'm sorry but what emotions are coming through this video? LMAO. Its like some kind of autistic interpretation of "feelings".
Irrationality in socionics is about energy metabolism. Actually I'm done discussing this with you, bud. You think you are right (you are not), and this is just going to go in circles. Sabine LII- Ne sub
Alive has an extreme blindness to see Fe.
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I do not understand you at all. on one hand according to you I am an IEI, and now I am blind to Fe?
you didn't even aim to have a discussion, bud. all you wrote was "oh Alive, you and your stupid IEI typings", then I responded and all you had to say was "I'm right, you are wrong, I win".
I can see that she is completely unexpressive, I am not blind. she looks like a researcher, in her videos she has the same neutral look. from that perspective, you could say she is a logical type. the point that makes her an ethical type is not how expressive she is in her videos, but that she even makes videos in which she sings to an audience at all. she clearly has a strong desire to express herself to her viewers. for me as a logical type, the concept of singing Ave Maria in an Angel costume to nearly 40000 viewers seems so abstract that I wonder if people here understand how logical types operate and that they have no desire to do such a thing at all. Logical Types are internally lifeless, they desperately need ethical types like Hossenfelder to bring that life into them. she is likely a gifted and somewhat autistic Ni dom who lives entirely in an imaginative world which makes her appear unemotional externally. showing bright emotions is also in my opinion somewhat related to confifdence which she might not have all that much of.
I don't even understand how it's so controversial that I type a woman who is making music videos in an angel costume while studying the concept of time as an IEI, with Intuition of Time as base function. I do not grasp the discussions that I have here. it's like you guys are oblivious to the most obvious things and mad about it and tell me I don't understand Ni. like what do you mean?
Update you sarcasm detector and look at this.
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you don't know what you are doing when it comes to typing and you have nothing interesting to say. I really dislike you. it's really true, your life is a joke.
Just wrote about her in chat but I also want to share my thoughts here. I think what disappoints me the most about this thread is that I don't really see many real Alpha NT types here. Being an LII, I was always curious to find people of my own type but there are almost none here. In some part I am aware that a researcher who dislikes the spotlight, interviews and youtube, it's unlikely to find LII here but still.
The reason I'm posting Simone here is because I find it odd that ILE is considered the inventor in socionics. When you watch the video you will see a couple of non-functioning robots that don't do what they are supposed to do. I think the girl is very charming and likeable in a child-like way but how does she supposedly have the same type as Nikola Tesla? A person who spoke 8 languages and was known for his elegant dressing style? I think Ni + is the function that invents, because Ni studies things of interest in-depth, and it's just more likely that you come up with something new after you fully understand something, while Ne looks at alternatives, sees existing things from a different angle.
Simone Giertz seems to be universally typed as ILE so it's a good example I guess. I really don't see how she could have the same type as Tesla, Einstein, Mozart etc.
LII are shy and not very emotional, but they have weaker and valued Fe - emotional excitement is a significant appeal to them. Fi valuing introverts should avoid such things the most, in general.
well here's the thing. I am not shy, quite direct actually. the thing I dislike though is presenting myself to someone or a company, being filmed or photographed at random. I would never consider doing an interview for some random podcast to talk about things. even Angela Merkel, who Gulenko typed as LII (which I agree with) has dozens of rules that an interviewer must follow before she agrees to do an interview.
the ILE question is more interesting to me though, since even Gulenko types Tesla as ILE, which I do not understand at all when I read about his characteristics.
https://socioniks.net/article/?id=288
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And he has suspicious ideas about Se.
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SEI
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probably ILE
more like a Se ego, but seems more Fe valuing, perhaps
not excluding LSI, from looking at the other videos
Si more than Se and ethical (resting face without any make-up is quite telling to me). But there's only so much we can know from this vids.
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No, her gaze is tough, cold - unpleasant for Delta
LSI most likely
seems introvert, but SLE is second most likely
ESI is excluded, definitely, and SEI, SEE are highly unlikely
Her eyes are not the look of Se creative more like the Si calm 'void' in SEIs (not found in SLIs so far). But how much experience can you transfer through words in a post really?
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If what you see as Si in SEI is not something you see in SLI - then your identification of at least one of the types is obviously problematic.
She seems most like LSI, in my opinion. Without knowing your own type this is much harder to understand, as you cannot effectively use the IR to determine it. For example, if your true type is EIE, but you believe yourself to be ILE, then the positive and sympathetic feeling you more often than with other types get to LSI in IR will be more likely to be attributed to a SEI by you. The mistakes will be somewhat consistent, like your almost consistent typings of Fe valuers as IEE.
Try to read the basic theory, to understand your type by confidently assessing the relations to you of people you know. Then VI will be much easier. You seem like an ethical type, at least. Maybe intuitive.
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