Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[Marep]

Kateryna Lagno, chess grandmaster and SEI

I think she's LSI

[sojourn]

Gemma Chan, SEI

[sojourn]

Jawaharlal Nehru, ILE

[sojourn]

Rhett McLaughlin, ILE

[sojourn]

Guillaume Chaslot, LII or something Alpha??

[sojourn]

Yousef Al Otaiba, ESE

[sojourn]

Julia Louis-Dreyfus, ESE

[lynn]

Joshua Fluke - LII

[Rusal]

Jessie Buckley - maybe ESFj.

I saw her in I'm Thinking of Ending Things - great job.

[Computer Loser]

“Bill!” “Bill!’ “Bill!” “Bill!” “Bill!”

Bill Nye, an actor, science educator, mechanical engineer, and CEO of The Planetary society, best known as the host for the children’s show Bill Nye the science guy (1993-1998)

From his early days, Bill was zany, fun, and full of life. However in recent times, Bill has become somber and serious as he pushes to make the world a better place, strongly committed to advancing his ideals and visions.

At quick glance, while Bill’s persona is one of a scientist; one would immediately think that Bill was some NT type; I’ve seen ENTp / ENTj typings. However, I don't believe these typings as I don’t see very strong intuition (N) from Bill. As a matter of fact, I see more Si instead. Check out this interview (@3:07):



When asked interview questions, you can see Bill going into "Si-recollection mode", where he introverts into himself, generally disengaged from the environment, as he recalls a series of Si-impressions stored in his mind. He rambles a bit (In order to set an Si-context) and gives a series of anecdotes recalling in high detail things that happened in his parents day and he ties that into the present. Ex: “Back in my parent’s day, a good teacher was someone that set clear goals and expectations.” He seems to do this throughout the entire interview, traversing through his web of inter-connected Si-networks, ultimately to extract knowledge + to tie that into the present. Bill occasionally throws in some when he catches himself drifting off into Si-land

Additionally, sometimes Bill’s established Si-impressions can work against him; Bill tends to rehash the status quo even when he is challenged on his views on climate change, having a tendency to resort to commonly established arguments:

--The 97% of scientists agreeing that climate change is real
--Saying “facts are facts” “Don’t YOU believe in FACTS?”
--And lastly, resorting to Pivots (evading the question)

We can further see this illustrated (@6:21) here with an interview with Tucker Carlson on climate change:



Here, Bill couldn't sufficiently answer Tucker’s question, frustrating him, and causing Bill to pivot the question by trying to turn the pressure back on Tucker:

"So, why aren't YOU concerned with Climate change Tucker!?"

This is what happens when Si rigidly adheres/resorts to a (outdated) standard

Overall impression:

Bill values Fe > Fi + Alpha values, evident from his interactions with the audience + his past programs.

SEI / ISFp

[timber]

Overall impression:

Bill values Fe > Fi + Alpha values, evident from his interactions with the audience + his past programs.

SEI / ISFp

I'm all for unusual typings. This one is a real stretch. The reasoning all hinges on his "gap out moments"?

Okay, but he doesn't even look like he is Si gapping it. Looks like he is making some internal thought brain connections. Not a sensate type of gap out?

[Computer Loser]

I'm all for unusual typings. This one is a real stretch. The reasoning all hinges on his "gap out moments"?

Okay, but he doesn't even look like he is Si gapping it. Looks like he is making some internal thought brain connections. Not a sensate type of gap out?

Not only that but it's based on the quality/nature of his introspection or *how* he does it; For Si the focus appears more narrowly focused on specifics and detailed... topics may jump around because of Ne...whereas Ni can appear more broad, less focused, and less jumping around.

The reasoning all hinges on his "gap out moments"?

Lol

what type did u think he was

[Tallmo]

Povel Ramel, Swedish entertainer. I think he might have been ILE harmonizing.

Unconventional, crazy humor, genius lyrics

Here he sings his song "Life is hell"

[on a peaceful hiatus]

Anthony Fauci - LII-N

[timber]

Anthony Fauci - LII-N

I'v been running on the presumption he is ISTj "the inspector".

I see him as mirror of Trump, which is why they both stand their ground with each other.

[on a peaceful hiatus]

I'v been running on the presumption he is ISTj "the inspector".

I see him as mirror of Trump, which is why they both stand their ground with each other.

I see it as a conflict relationship between SEE-LII

[timber]

I see it as a conflict relationship between SEE-LII

They are not in conflict, as you can see Fauci is more dominant, albeit less powerful. Fauci says what he thinks is right and Trump must nod his head and follow along. Note Fauci is not fired yet?

That Fauci has not been fired yet and still says things to Trump that others have lost their jobs over is a massive clue to the inter types. They are both playing the same political game.

I suppose Trump holds firing him as a secret option if things go south. Fauci set up as a fall guy as he has taken responsibility for the public in ways Trump is incapable of. Trump knows this. They are not SLE supervising LII.

If anything its LSI with SEE if you think Trump is ESFp.

[on a peaceful hiatus]

the leading virologist in germany, Christian Drosten, is imo also an LII-N. he is advising our government and maybe a reason why germany's response to covid was so much better than other countries. seems to be a field that's very interesting for my type.

[timber]

the leading virologist in germany, Christian Drosten, is imo also an LII-N. he is advising our government and maybe a reason why germany's response to covid was so much better than other countries. seems to be a field that's very interesting for my type.

Yes, that's better.

[Rusal]

Lauren Graham - the woman that played the mom in the Gilmore Girls -ILE, Taylor Swift subtype:

Hazal Kaya, another ILE actress (or, if not, IEE):

[Adam Strange]

Lauren Graham - the woman that played the mom in the Gilmore Girls -ILE, Taylor Swift subtype:

Hazal Kaya, another ILE actress (or, if not, IEE):

I like watching attractive women, but watching Hazel Kaya reminded me that I had trouble reading the women I met in Turkey. There is something subtly different about their reactions and facial expressions which I'll attribute to living in a different culture. It's almost as if they are living with a completely different set of expectations.

I honestly can't say what type Hazel is. I got impressions ranging from ILI to EIE.

[timber]

Lauren Graham - the woman that played the mom in the Gilmore Girls -ILE, Taylor Swift subtype:
[/SPOILER]

Actress might be ILE, but Gilmore Girls is one of the most ENFp shows ever created. The entire show is about exploring Fi and Ne. With tons of light hearted alphas (Mellisa McCarthy) who add variety to the Gilmore's Fi-Ne life.


Luke and Lorelai

Hamlet and Maxim vs. Huxley and Gabin

Us: an artful manipulator and a chill hero of "Equilibrium".
Them: a quarrelsome histrionic and an object of furniture.

[Rusal]

I like watching attractive women, but watching Hazel Kaya reminded me that I had trouble reading the women I met in Turkey. There is something subtly different about their reactions and facial expressions which I'll attribute to living in a different culture. It's almost as if they are living with a completely different set of expectations.

I honestly can't say what type Hazel is. I got impressions ranging from ILI to EIE.

I chose a video with subtitles but there are other videos with worse quality where I think she looks ILE/IEE enough to resemble people I've met and make me want include her in the examples. We need @Sol to settle the matter but that elistist man won't show up I'm sure lol.

[Sol]

We need @Sol to settle the matter but that elitist man won't show up I'm sure lol.

I do not get assured opinion in many of cases too. I doubt it's ILE and not sure about her type.

I do not see much use in commenting random examples of famouses, while this may take significant efforts. For "offline" examples is possibly to use my bloggers list which should be enough.
Also. To identify types of famouses is not good way for novices. They should type people which they know good IRL, what is much easier and gives more use as types examples.

[timber]

Curious character assessment on Another Fauci, by Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR.

Fauci played the hierarchy game for much of his career.

[timber]

Ryan George - ESFj

Screen rants creator is all the 4 alphas rolled up into one. Available on youtube. Hard to differentiate LII from ESFj, and ILE with SEI in Ryan. Overall he is a vortical synergist, positivist, obstinate, result, judicious, declarer, Fe producer with confident and comfortable Si.








https://itsryangeorge.com

[Marep]

Edge (wrestler), SEI

[Rusal]

Quintessential insecure ISFp female. Just everything she says (and she comes with cute semi aphasia too!)

[on a peaceful hiatus]

so the leading conservative party (CDU) in germany voted their new chairman today. the winner has a very high chance of becoming the new chancellor at the end of this year. I thought Friedrich Merz (LIE-D) would win, but it seems that he's a bit too controversial for the party, and I get the feeling that germany dislikes any form of Se at the moment. the winner is Armin Laschet, who had very poor preselection results, so that surprised me a bit. I think he is an SEI-N.




it's interesting to me that he imo has the same type as joe biden (SEI-D).

[timber]

so the leading conservative party (CDU) in germany voted their new chairman today. the winner has a very high chance of becoming the new chancellor at the end of this year. I thought Friedrich Merz (LIE-D) would win, but it seems that he's a bit too controversial for the party, and I get the feeling that germany dislikes any form of Se at the moment. the winner is Armin Laschet, who had very poor preselection results, so that surprised me a bit. I think he is an SEI-N.




it's interesting to me that he imo has the same type as joe biden (SEI-D).

He has a dumas face. I feel like the same person could be serving KFC and lives to play video games on the weekends. VI checks out.

[Northstar]

TeslaBjörn, ILE

[SGF]

TeslaBjörn, ILE

its that guy who took Optimus for an offroad test and broke it's right fender in a ditch hahaha.. was just watching it the other day. At least he didn't scratch the car.. *distressed beeping* lmao

[Marep]

SEI

[Not A Communist Shill]

Norman Wisdom - maybe ESE

[Not A Communist Shill]

Vera Lynn - maybe ESE

[The Internationale]

I'm trying to decide if I'm an EII-Ne or an LII-Ne. I made a typing thread, and those seem to be the two types its come down to.

[Marep]

Terence Trent D'Arby and Des'ree - both SEIs

[SGF]

Vera Lynn - maybe ESE

She reminds me of me mum, the way she looks like her clone.

[Rusal]

I was watching Cats (the old recording from 98) and the actor that played Mr. Mistoffelees looked ILE-Ne to me, artistic make up and all.

[The Reality Denialist]

Thoughty2 - MB ILE

GRADE A++++ Fi PoLR rant