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    Richard Wrangham - LII (in aliveonics IEI, I suppose)
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    Timmy2Cans is a pretty obvious ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Richard Wrangham - LII (in aliveonics IEI, I suppose)
    don't care about the guy but why would an LII do research on "Violence, Sex, and Fire in Human Evolution"?. sorry that I think it's bullshit that you type him Se PolR. maybe the reason why you share all these people here and spend time with their findings is because you have the same type as them and are naturally drawn to what they say about things.

    Wrangham is known predominantly for his work in the ecology of primate social systems, the evolutionary history of human aggression (culminating in his book with Dale Peterson, Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence), and most recently his research in cooking (summarized in his book, Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human).


    Sounds like high Ni and Fi + Se as suggestive to me yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    don't care about the guy but why would an LII do research on "Violence, Sex, and Fire in Human Evolution"?. sorry that I think it's bullshit that you type him Se PolR. maybe the reason why you share all these people here and spend time with their findings is because you have the same type as them and are naturally drawn to what they say about things.

    Wrangham is known predominantly for his work in the ecology of primate social systems, the evolutionary history of human aggression (culminating in his book with Dale Peterson, Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence), and most recently his research in cooking (summarized in his book, Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human).


    Sounds like high Ni and Fi + Se as suggestive to me yeah.
    Cooking sounds incredibly Si suggestive because it reduced the need for hunting by 50 % (or something) and made it more pleasurable for the senses.
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    probably LII

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    ^ True, very true.

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    ILE-Ne

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    None of the people on this page seem alpha to me. That guy in india seems more LIE, the make-up girl IEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    the make-up girl IEI
    seems irrational and intuitive, so maybe
    not excluding a logician

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    ile : )

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    LII wrote this
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    Sabine Hossenfelder LII
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    Dr. Mike ESE

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    Sabine Hossenfelder has the same smile as Douglas Hofstadter, who I would type as IEI

    https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...Hofstadter.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Dr. Mike ESE

    Intuitive, maybe irrational
    Possibly IEE, IEI
    or even EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Sabine Hossenfelder LII
    Yeah I agree. For a time I thought she was a Ti sub type LSI, but Northstar pointed out LII which ultimately made more sense. Its not really casual determinist thinking we are seeing in Sabine, but holographic. "As Statics, Holographers attain reliable precision of thought. As Negativists they periodically turn the object of thought to its opposite side. As Involutionary types, they sporadically change the angle of examination or criterion of judgment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    Sabine Hossenfelder has the same smile as Douglas Hofstadter, who I would type as IEI

    https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...Hofstadter.png
    ugh just go home, call it a night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
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    this girl is fairly entertaining, what makes you say ILE? As opposed to IEI? On another note, she has a very similar persona to a young Lady Gaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    ugh just go home, call it a night.
    >Talks about perception of time
    >somehow Ti base instead of Ni base

    Sure





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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    >Talks about perception of time
    >somehow Ti base instead of Ni base

    Sure





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    As a physicist one would be very interested in the concept of time, as through the lens of Ti. Plus that candle video is extremely Fe cringe. Some kind of INTj humour. This flat affect is Fe?

    I'm not sure you understand Ni at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    As a physicist one would be very interested in the concept of time, as through the lens of Ti.
    ever considered that physics is Ni? and that most physicists are Ni base types? but what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    ever considered that physics is Ni? and that most physicists are Ni base types? but what do I know.
    given your propensity towards bad IEI typings, clearly, not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    given your propensity towards bad IEI typings, clearly, not much.
    yes, instead, LII make goofy Fe music videos and sing at a beach despite being a withdrawn logical type. makes 100% more sense. I can't compete with your view. you have it all figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    yes, instead, LII make goofy Fe videos and sing at a beach despite being a withdrawn logical type. makes 100% more sense. I can't compete with your view. you have it all figured out.
    Watch the video a second time and then watch past the song, where Sabine explains herself in a darkly lit office. Seems far more "withdrawn logical type". Sabine is actually a poster child for LII females, glad she was brought up.

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    I really think many people here do not understand Alpha NT at all, but it might be because we simply are not interested in the spotlight or presenting ourselves. Might be a lack of actual famous examples to study from. If people really think that LII make music videos while studying physics and write books with a butterfly front cover, they really haven't understood this type (or irrationality).



    totally an unemotional logical type and not a person who wants to express her emotions in an artistic way Ni + Fe
    Last edited by Alive; 07-26-2022 at 07:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I really think many people here do not understand Alpha NT at all, but it might be because we simply are not interested in the spotlight or presenting ourselves. Might be a lack of actual famous examples to study from. If people really think that LII make music videos while studying physics and write books with a butterfly front cover, they really haven't understood this type (or irrationality) at all.



    totally an unemotional logical type and not a person who wants to express her emotions in an artistic way Ni + Fe
    Dual baiting. Pretty standard. Well known phenomena and I'm surprised you are not familiar with it yet.

    And I'm sorry but what emotions are coming through this video? LMAO. Its like some kind of autistic interpretation of "feelings".

    Irrationality in socionics is about energy metabolism. Actually I'm done discussing this with you, bud. You think you are right (you are not), and this is just going to go in circles. Sabine LII- Ne sub


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    Alive has an extreme blindness to see Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Alive has an extreme blindness to see Fe.
    I do not understand you at all. on one hand according to you I am an IEI, and now I am blind to Fe?

    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    Dual baiting. Pretty standard. Well known phenomena and I'm surprised you are not familiar with it yet.

    And I'm sorry but what emotions are coming through this video? LMAO. Its like some kind of autistic interpretation of "feelings".

    Irrationality in socionics is about energy metabolism. Actually I'm done discussing this with you, bud. You think you are right (you are not), and this is just going to go in circles. Sabine LII- Ne sub
    you didn't even aim to have a discussion, bud. all you wrote was "oh Alive, you and your stupid IEI typings", then I responded and all you had to say was "I'm right, you are wrong, I win".

    I can see that she is completely unexpressive, I am not blind. she looks like a researcher, in her videos she has the same neutral look. from that perspective, you could say she is a logical type. the point that makes her an ethical type is not how expressive she is in her videos, but that she even makes videos in which she sings to an audience at all. she clearly has a strong desire to express herself to her viewers. for me as a logical type, the concept of singing Ave Maria in an Angel costume to nearly 40000 viewers seems so abstract that I wonder if people here understand how logical types operate and that they have no desire to do such a thing at all. Logical Types are internally lifeless, they desperately need ethical types like Hossenfelder to bring that life into them. she is likely a gifted and somewhat autistic Ni dom who lives entirely in an imaginative world which makes her appear unemotional externally. showing bright emotions is also in my opinion somewhat related to confifdence which she might not have all that much of.

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    I don't even understand how it's so controversial that I type a woman who is making music videos in an angel costume while studying the concept of time as an IEI, with Intuition of Time as base function. I do not grasp the discussions that I have here. it's like you guys are oblivious to the most obvious things and mad about it and tell me I don't understand Ni. like what do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I do not understand you at all. on one hand according to you I am an IEI, and now I am blind to Fe?
    Update you sarcasm detector and look at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Update you sarcasm detector and look at this.
    you don't know what you are doing when it comes to typing and you have nothing interesting to say. I really dislike you. it's really true, your life is a joke.

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    Just wrote about her in chat but I also want to share my thoughts here. I think what disappoints me the most about this thread is that I don't really see many real Alpha NT types here. Being an LII, I was always curious to find people of my own type but there are almost none here. In some part I am aware that a researcher who dislikes the spotlight, interviews and youtube, it's unlikely to find LII here but still.

    The reason I'm posting Simone here is because I find it odd that ILE is considered the inventor in socionics. When you watch the video you will see a couple of non-functioning robots that don't do what they are supposed to do. I think the girl is very charming and likeable in a child-like way but how does she supposedly have the same type as Nikola Tesla? A person who spoke 8 languages and was known for his elegant dressing style? I think Ni + is the function that invents, because Ni studies things of interest in-depth, and it's just more likely that you come up with something new after you fully understand something, while Ne looks at alternatives, sees existing things from a different angle.

    Simone Giertz seems to be universally typed as ILE so it's a good example I guess. I really don't see how she could have the same type as Tesla, Einstein, Mozart etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post


    Just wrote about her in chat but I also want to share my thoughts here. I think what disappoints me the most about this thread is that I don't really see many real Alpha NT types here. Being an LII, I was always curious to find people of my own type but there are almost none here. In some part I am aware that a researcher who dislikes the spotlight, interviews and youtube, it's unlikely to find LII here but still.

    The reason I'm posting Simone here is because I find it odd that ILE is considered the inventor in socionics. When you watch the video you will see a couple of non-functioning robots that don't do what they are supposed to do. I think the girl is very charming and likeable in a child-like way but how does she supposedly have the same type as Nikola Tesla? A person who spoke 8 languages and was known for his elegant dressing style? I think Ni + is the function that invents, because Ni studies things of interest in-depth, and it's just more likely that you come up with something new after you fully understand something, while Ne looks at alternatives, sees existing things from a different angle.

    Simone Giertz seems to be universally typed as ILE so it's a good example I guess. I really don't see how she could have the same type as Tesla, Einstein, Mozart etc.
    LII are shy and not very emotional, but they have weaker and valued Fe - emotional excitement is a significant appeal to them. Fi valuing introverts should avoid such things the most, in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaecaedre View Post
    LII are shy and not very emotional, but they have weaker and valued Fe - emotional excitement is a significant appeal to them. Fi valuing introverts should avoid such things the most, in general.
    well here's the thing. I am not shy, quite direct actually. the thing I dislike though is presenting myself to someone or a company, being filmed or photographed at random. I would never consider doing an interview for some random podcast to talk about things. even Angela Merkel, who Gulenko typed as LII (which I agree with) has dozens of rules that an interviewer must follow before she agrees to do an interview.

    the ILE question is more interesting to me though, since even Gulenko types Tesla as ILE, which I do not understand at all when I read about his characteristics.

    https://socioniks.net/article/?id=288
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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    I'm not sure you understand Ni at all.
    And he has suspicious ideas about Se.
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    probably ILE

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