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    ISFp






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    That's why ENTp and ISFp and meant for each other. They should totally marry each other.....
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    omg, i saw the isfp girl a couple months ago, and I fell in love with her, she was so emotional <3.

    the entp guy was really smart, I loved his dramatics.

    so idk, I like emotional people a little more over dramatic people.

    i'm feeling an isfp-isfp union xD.
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    I think she could easily be an INFp-Fe..... very creative Fe. Looks physically like a ISFp, but I think INFp.
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    yeah, obv a isfp. I can tell she thinks about the same thing I do.

    and that entp guy is HILARIOUS. totally a dual.
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    most of her videos show awareness of the body and its functions.. I thought ISFp a while ago too.

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    She reminds me of Carrie's(Oyburger's) sister alot. Huh.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

    "Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."

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    correct typings eunice

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    I'm just like her, except a little bit less feminine.

    Just as dramatic, and I would be saying uh a lot.
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    I'm nothing like that girl (at least I don't think I am)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    I'm nothing like that girl (at least I don't think I am)
    Lucky you.
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    The couple in this video (not Galactus) are ISFp (she) and ENTp (him), in my opinion.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DDKjliVcOJs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
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    "It's EXACTLY what it looks like." lmao. I thought that chick was kinda hot...

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    I think Orlando Bloom is SEI. Same with John Candy. Tim Burton seems pretty universally acknowledged as ILE, as far as I know, as is Weird Al Yankovich. I would say that Kristen Bell and Allison Mack are ESE.
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    There was a thread in which I posted a few people I considered to be SEI, based on my own thoughts and the insights of others (many of these may be too British or too irrelevant...):
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...i-gallery.html

    But I would now refine the list to:
    Alison Goldfrapp
    Anne Marie Duff
    Mel Giedroyc
    Emma Hamilton
    Iggy Pop
    Twiggy
    Olivia Hallinan
    Dawn French
    Peter Lorre
    Adrian Edmondson

    Also:
    Róisín Murphy - very possibly
    Stephen Fry - yes, I can see that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    I think Orlando Bloom is SEI. Same with John Candy. Tim Burton seems pretty universally acknowledged as ILE, as far as I know, as is Weird Al Yankovich. I would say that Kristen Bell and Allison Mack are ESE.
    My impression is that Kristen Bell is ILE...but it's not a significant impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    My impression is that Kristen Bell is ILE...but it's not a significant impression.
    What sources was this impression based on? Interviews, her roles on TV or movies, etc.? I'm always interested in contradictory data, to double-check my own hypotheses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    What sources was this impression based on? Interviews, her roles on TV or movies, etc.? I'm always interested in contradictory data, to double-check my own hypotheses.
    Let's see...well, basically her role in Veronica Mars and her general demeanour in interviews and the like. Her role in Heroes basically just confused me, so I can't use that, and I don't think I've seen any of her films. I do think think she has a very light-hearted and sporadic sort of personality unequilavent to basically anybody else - and no, I don't think that necessarily means ILE. And that is where I am at.

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    I think the following interview would be enough to convince me of Kristen Bell's ESE-ness, even if I'd never seen anything else about her:


    I found the following exchange particularly telling:

    Craig Ferguson: "Wolfgang Puck is on tonight! [...] He's Austrian!"
    Kristen Bell: *classic ESE half-smile of incomprehension, followed by laughter*
    Kristen Bell (still laughing): "Okay?"

    I've only ever seen that sort of half-smile of incomprehension in ESEs. It's like, there's something going on that they don't understand, and they feel like maybe they should understand it and they'll look stupid for not understanding it, but on the other hand maybe they're not expected to understand, and they really have no idea how to respond, so they get frozen in this half-smile, trying to maintain the Fe mood but not sure what the Fe mood should be, hoping someone will explain what's going on.

    Her Veronica Mars character was definitely more aggressive and serious than one typically thinks of ESEs, but I think interviews such as the one above tend to reveal more of her true nature.

    I'm also becoming increasingly convinced that Craig Ferguson is some kind of Alpha. ILE maybe? He consistently seems to have the best, most comfortable interviews with Alpha celebrities. And his interview with Rosie Perez, who I would type as SEE, was decidedly awkward.
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    I'd be ready to acknoweldge Craig Ferguson as ESE. He has a different style from Conan O'Brian. He seems like someone I'd like to hang out with--relaxed and friendly with a hint of nerdiness. Contrast with Conan O'Brian who is more edgy and unpredictable.

    Jim Breuer could be SEI
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    I have some guesses (feel free to correct me, Alphas)

    LII: Spike Jonze, Nicole Kidman, Naomi Watts, Matthew Perry, Rupert Friend

    ESE: Buddy Valastro "Cake Boss", Nia Vardalos, Seth Rogen, Kelly Clarkson, Tom Hanks, Lisa Edelstein, Keira Knightley

    SEI: Josh Groban, Anne Hathaway, Isla Fisher, January Jones

    ILE: Ellen Page, Steve Carell, Kal Penn
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    hmm I always thought Steve Carell was LII actually.
    The saddest ESFj

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    yoni wolf - isfp extraordinaire
    i think.

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    Default Possible Female INTjs

    Expert Analysts or LII-Ni 's or Harmonizing LII's or LII's with strengthened Ignoring function, characterized by thin oval faces, Jung being an archetypal example

    Hypatia - Greek scholar, mathematician, philosopher
    Hypatia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Meryl Lipton - behavioural pediatric neurologist specialising in social emotional disorders

    (may also be Leading Analyst, LII-Te, thin rectangular face) she reveals her strengthened Ni, and Te at the end of the clip, where she presents her systematic outline of the future of research into diagnosis and treatment of social emotional disorders
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    Sofia, Queen of Spain (King Juan Carlos = ESE Si)



    Elena Salgado
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    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
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    Mariya Semkina - LII
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    Default Video Examples of Alpha Quadra

    Hey everyone, here are some stereotypical alpha types!! Discuss!! Enjoy!!


    Male ISFP



    Female ISFP



    Male ESFJ



    Female ESFJ



    Male ENTP



    Female ENTP



    Male INTJ



    Female INTJ


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    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Male ISFP: Introverted Ethical, sounds rather EII. "Down to earth" means to him letting things go and having a good work ethics.

    Female ISFP: likely SEI, yeah.

    Male ESFJ: very likely ESE.

    Female ESFJ: Delta ST. Cold and stiff, doesn't move her eyebrows even when she laughs. Talks detached about people and helping. "I don't like to be the loud one but I always end-up being the one that's taking charge and getting it done."

    Male ENTP: certainly LIE.

    Female ENTP: perhaps ESI, not sure (note that she learns mainly from people).

    Male INTJ: ILE.

    Female INTJ: maybe ILI, not very sure.
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Hey everyone, here are some stereotypical alpha types!! Discuss!! Enjoy!!
    And please stop going so headlong. Alpha is a group of types in Socionics, an ENTP is not "stereotypical Alpha" if it doesn't coincide with Socionics ILE or doesn't express Alpha values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare...

    I haven't read a ton into it, though from what I've seen of it so far, it would make sense to see them as entirely separate systems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare..
    Oh yeah, I remember that, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    It's Jon Niednagel's Brain Types, and it's based around things like coarse motor skill, fine motor skill, things like that - he's the guy who went with ****** not being MBTI ENFJ, and his equivalent (FCIR) to MBTI's ENTP is supposedly, by far, the most common type, with BEIL, which somewhat translates to ISTJ somehow, being quite rare...

    I haven't read a ton into it, though from what I've seen of it so far, it would make sense to see them as entirely separate systems...
    I like that Dr. J is INFP in Neidnagel's system.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by guy123 View Post
    Male ISFP: Introverted Ethical, sounds rather EII. "Down to earth" means to him letting things go and having a good work ethics.

    Female ISFP: likely SEI, yeah.

    Male ESFJ: very likely ESE.

    Female ESFJ: Delta ST. Cold and stiff, doesn't move her eyebrows even when she laughs. Talks detached about people and helping. "I don't like to be the loud one but I always end-up being the one that's taking charge and getting it done."

    Male ENTP: certainly LIE.

    Female ENTP: perhaps ESI, not sure (note that she learns mainly from people).

    Male INTJ: ILE.

    Female INTJ: maybe ILI, not very sure.
    What system is this? Sounds even less close to Socionics than MBTI. ENTP - the Strategist, WTF?
    Yeah, I agree with the male ESFj. I watched like 30 seconds of the female 'INTj' and suspected ILI too. She might be an ethical type too. I'm not sure these videos are accurate.

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    Male ISFP: I guess ISFp doesn't seem wrong, but his energy is unlike any other ISFp I've seen. Can't really qualify that with anything.
    Female ISFP: I'm getting more of an ENFp impression from her.
    Male ESFJ: ESXj most likely. Don't see any big reason to doubt ESFj.
    Female ESFJ: Reminds me of a teacher I had who I had typed as Ne-ENFp, could be wrong though.
    Male ENTP: His haircut makes me frown. Ne/Si extrovert, not ESFj.
    Female ENTP: ESTp maybe?
    Male INTJ: INTj. Next.
    Female INTJ: Ne-INTj. Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Dew View Post
    I'm not sure these videos are accurate.
    Hmm they were not supposed to, read woofwoofl's post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Male ENTP: His haircut makes me frown. Ne/Si extrovert, not ESFj.
    LOL! I could see him LSE, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Male INTJ: INTj. Next.
    Oh, no... Some things to consider:

    - LIIs don't get too personal with people, it doesn't even make much sense to them. The guy talks to people, "goes to their heart", tries to help them, solve their problems, boasts he's not shy to talk about very personal things of people.
    - Ne-Base: always concerned with the harmful potential of beliefs and misinformation. Compelled to tell others the truth and too opinionated/pushy. Always tries to anticipate how things (incl. his life) will turn out. Very diffuse and broad area of interests. Makes comparisons - eg software engineering with human problems - learns something in a field and tries to apply it in a totally unrelated one. Spaced-out.
    - Looks for inspiration outside, studying other people, etc. Annoys people around, trying to change things. "I will try to change it to myself, my family and everybody around me. Sometimes I can annoy people because they think that I'm... well sometimes I guess I can be offensive or that I have a superior knowledge they don't have and rather than maybe be more gracious, it comes across as harsh because I believe so strong in what I do".
    - Had different kind of jobs, apparently went from base jobs to do software developing. Seems to have had a very random course of life - not a natural evolution from bottom to top in the same area, but rather from something to something else (more interesting and attractive).
    - Likes to make order because he can't focus and gets distracted. "Feels better" and "thinks clearer" when things are neat around him. I think LIIs make order because it's the obvious thing to do, though they don't get distracted by things unrelated to their purpose.
    - Ne Irrational again: "I like to expose lies and tell the truth and I think it's absolutely necessary ... I like to identify compromise before it turns into something that destroys people's lives".
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    Male ESFJ- valuing Ethical something, probably not EIE (too dull). ESI? I also think he might be an ENFJ with too much Se, given his approach to sales.
    Female ESFJ- EIE-EII, I'd say. / valuing, weak-ish . Definitely ESFJ (very nice ESTJ is possible, but Si-aux is clear).
    Male INTJ- Bizarre LII with too much HA for my liking.
    Female INTJ- xSI-ish. I think ESI-SEI, maybe. And possibly ISTJ.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    I see Sue Gardner ILI, also Irrational is pretty evident IMO, she talks about "interesting", "terrific", "fascinating", she likes how everything unfolds and reveals more, new, interesting and unexpected things. She sounds fascinated by this idea and doesn't seem the person to want working towards a certain, specific end purpose, in contrast to LII.
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