Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[Kalinoche the Child]

LII cooking with LSE

[Heretic 007]

ILE Normalizing type (sorry not in English)


The image capture illustrates it rather well. He conducts quite concrete research based on other people's request.

[soundofconfusion]

Leslie Nielsen - ILE

[Sol]

Aleksandr Rudnev (isolux.ru) - INTJ

Leslie Nielsen - F

[bouncingoffclouds]

I hate to admit this, but this one does actually look and move like an LII I knew...

[Moonbeaux Rainfox]

Walter Moers - ILE-Ne

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/34878.Walter_Moers

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/34878.Walter_Moers

One of my favourite books from my childhood -- The 13 ½ Lives of Captain Bluebear.

[Heretic 007]

Leslie Nielsen - F

Seems awfully logical to me

[Sol]

Seems awfully logical to me

good. T types are good logical, but not awfully logical

he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally

[Heretic 007]

he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally

You are natural talent then.

[soundofconfusion]

Seems awfully logical to me

you don't understand, because you're bad logical.

[ashlesha]

he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally

Ethical types are better actors? Yeah, maybe

[Dauphin]

Paul Feyerabend: ILE-Ne 7w6

[Sol]

Yevgeniy (Archetype Center) - mb INTJ

Ethical types are better actors? Yeah, maybe

where roles need expressive emotions (main roles mostly seem to be so). F types are more universal
T types can be good at poker face ones and other cold eyes ones

in average

[Tallmo]

Marie-Louise von Franz, Jungian analyst, LII Creative subtype

[soundofconfusion]

Marie-Louise von Franz, Jungian analyst, LII Creative subtype

I have no opinion on her type yet, but that looks like a nice find! I do think that she's a normalising subtype though. I can't see accentuated Se or Fe here.

[Tallmo]

I have no opinion on her type yet, but that looks like a nice find! I do think that she's a normalising subtype though. I can't see accentuated Se or Fe here.

Normalizing seems like a good suggestion, thanks. I've read her books and watched the series "The way of the dream". Seems LII.

[Heretic 007]

No way. Dr grande is what you should look in normalizing LII. Seriousness, supports established standards at least some way, does things out of duty, family person etc. Can you even argue for one point without loosing externally coherent view as in comparison to LII's as collective?

[Tallmo]

No way. Dr grande is what you should look in normalizing LII. Seriousness, supports established standards at least some way, does things out of duty, family person etc. Can you even argue for one point without loosing externally coherent view as in comparison to LII's as collective?

Sorry, are you referring to von Franz's subtype or something else? Do you have an opinion on her subtype? I was assuming Creative from her appearance and writings, but there seems to be N tendencies also.

[Heretic 007]

Sorry, are you referring to von Franz's subtype or something else? Do you have an opinion on her subtype? I was assuming Creative from her appearance and writings, but there seems to be N tendencies also.

Just by reading her text it seems to employ similar elements as Gulenko. The problem with pure creative is that it uses lots of fantasy that harmonizing has. Overall she is on the idiosyncratic side.

[Tallmo]

Just by reading her text it seems to employ similar elements as Gulenko. The problem with pure creative is that it uses lots of fantasy that harmonizing has. Overall she is on the idiosyncratic side.

She went through analysis with Jung and then became an analyst herself. As an old woman she has gotten a more complete personality than most people. I think it could be possible that people who work on themselves a can transcend subtypes because they go outside their natural self and accept suffering in order to do what's meaningful.

Would have been interesting to see her as a young woman

[Heretic 007]

mb SEI

[soundofconfusion]

Claude Monet - SEI (thanks @Subteigh)

[Sol]

tangerin - ESFJ


StevenCrowder - ESFJ

[Lord Pixel]

Male ILE
Female XLI. Probably ILI.

[Sol]

Bret McKenzie - INTJ


АМЕРИКА Наизнанку (alexfromodessaify) - ISFP

"Female XLI. Probably ILI" - ESE

[karas]

ESE -(suggestive Ti)

[toska]

SEI-Si: Cynthia Nabozny

 

 

[toska]

SEI-Si: Elena Tonra

 

 

[toska]

SEI-Si: Sasha Sloan

 

 

[karas]

ESE -(suggestive Ti)

Nah= SEI

[Sol]

Carly Rae Jepsen - ENTP


Dipan (uncleDimaaas) - ISFP

Cynthia Nabozny - Ti
Elena Tonra - SEI

[soundofconfusion]

Carly Rae Jepsen - ENTP

she made an album that is literally called Emotion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV9sNmujCPk

in her breakthrough single call me maybe, she clearly displays victim behaviour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

she loves to change her appearance and style, pays a lot of attention to her appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY1RsDpRmIU

she is an EIE with a normalising subtype @toska

[Heretic 007]

Johanna Kurkela ESE Harmonizing. Shw has nice voice and is quite unusual.


Lyrics for her LII dual considering brushing teeth and showering ( @soundofconfusion I'm looking at you)

Peace, My Love

Brush,
Brush your teeth
Just now you can't
Do anything else
To shower
Go to shower
You have to wash away the bad day
At times a human is
Hopeless,
Been through too much
Your breathless body
Only needs saving dream


Peace, my love, just sleep
I watch your sleep, I guard you
My treasure, just sleep
No worries, I'll protect you
We'll talk in the morning
Peace, my love, just sleep
Just sleep
I guard you
Peace, my love


Strong,
Let them pretend to be strong,
Those who can
Hide their sorrow
Remember,
You have to remember
That you don't have to pretend to me


Peace, my love, just sleep
I watch your sleep, I guard you
My treasure, just sleep
No worries, I'll protect you
We'll talk in the morning
Peace, my love, just sleep
Just sleep
I guard you


At times a human is
Hopeless, been through too much
Your breathless body
Only needs saving dream


Peace, my love, just sleep
I watch your sleep, I guard you
My treasure, just sleep
No worries, I'll protect you
We'll talk in the morning
Peace, my love, just sleep
Just sleep
I guard you...
Peace, my love
Peace, my love, just sleep, just sleep
I guard you
Peace, my love


https://lyricstranslate.com/en/rauha...e-my-love.html

[toska]

she made an album that is literally called Emotion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV9sNmujCPk

in her breakthrough single call me maybe, she clearly displays victim behaviour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

she loves to change her appearance and style, pays a lot of attention to her appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY1RsDpRmIU

she is an EIE with a normalising subtype @toska

IEE-Fi imo. I think her being infantile fits better and she has much more Delta values. Very free-spirited and independent. From interviews, she seems very grateful and I see no sign of an Se HA. Makes her self out to be much more of a curious person, explorer-type, wanting to see the world and understand her relationships better. Doesn't seem like her goal is to be famous or make a huge impact. She also fits my VI's for it.

"I don't have any desire to rebel and be something totally different from what I am."

"I'm a little bit of a hippie at heart, so I always wear things that are comfortable and flowing."

"I definitely have a little attraction to bad guys, but they have to be sweethearts underneath. After all, I like to be treated well."

"The quick lesson that I learned is that none of the fame part is really real."

"I like to travel by myself."

"The way I write is generally about love. I have a great fascination about the subject."

"Acceptance has never been a question to me. I've grown up knowing it's just the way things should be."

[soundofconfusion]

IEE-Fi imo. I think her being infantile fits better and she has much more Delta values. Very free-spirited and independent. From interviews, she seems very grateful and I see no sign of an Se HA. Makes her self out to be much more of a curious person, explorer-type, wanting to see the world and understand her relationships better. She also fits my VI's for it.

"I don't have any desire to rebel and be something totally different from what I am."

"I'm a little bit of a hippie at heart, so I always wear things that are comfortable and flowing."

"I definitely have little attraction to bad guys, but they have to be sweethearts underneath. After all, I like to be treated well."

"The quick lesson that I learned is that none of the fame part is really real."

"I like to travel by myself."

"The way I write is generally about love. I have a great fascination about the subject."

you make some good points. I will read more about her later.

[karas]

SEI=Matt Leblank, Trent Reznor ,Leo Messi,

[Sol]

Til Vacuum Do Us Part - ESFJ

[queentiger]

iJustine - ESE

[soundofconfusion]

probably ILE

[Heretic 007]

IJustine is talking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. wink wink.