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    Björk - EII

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Björk - EII

    SEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    I agree. Bjork is SEI-Fe, Creative. If you read through Gulenko's description of this it makes a lot of sense for her. She's very childlike and playful, nature-focused, utopian fantasy type. She talks a lot about following her instincts. She says she gets easily bored and has a short attention span. She brings up needing to keep herself excited about life and wanting to live in a more exciting place. Utopian desire for reality to be fruitful and free of conflict.
    I had a long discussion about her type in her thread. I do not consider her a pragmatic sensing type, but an idealistic intuitive (like you even mentioned, very childlike and playful, nature-focused, utopian fantasy type). I also think that all of her creativity comes from her intuitive funcions. I'm going to quit socionics if she's an SEI tbh, but we all have our different opinions I guess. at least I can see why people would assume that she's an SEI, but I won't change my opinion here.
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    ^ That makes much more sense with Ne lead or at least ego. Saying her playful, infantile childlikeness is Si ego to this extent, is like saying Mike Tyson is ILI instead of Se ego.

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    Being ready and when the mood is right is an extremely ennea 4 thing, as taken from Enneagram Institute-

    "Avoid putting off things until you are "in the right mood." Commit yourself to productive, meaningful work that will contribute to your good and that of others, no matter how small the contribution may be. Working consistently in the real world will create a context in which you can discover yourself and your talents. (Actually, you are happiest when you are working—that is, activating your potentials and realizing yourself. You will not "find yourself" in a vacuum or while waiting for inspiration to strike, so connect—and stay connected—with the real world."

    Edit: I deleted my prior post as I'm not well-versed enough yet and shouldn't be giving such an opinion. Just a thought on ennea 4 though, as I know Fiona Apple has similar sentiments and she's certainly an NF. May be somewhat instinctual variant dependent, but also perception > judgment. Bjork just seems overall NF to me
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    Paul Simon - EII


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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    ^ No and I didn't attribute this to anything.
    What do you mean “No” LOL. You did and I’m talking about this post:
    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    I agree. Bjork is SEI-Fe, Creative. If you read through Gulenko's description of this it makes a lot of sense for her. She's very childlike and playful, nature-focused, utopian fantasy type. She talks a lot about following her instincts. She says she gets easily bored and has a short attention span. She brings up needing to keep herself excited about life and wanting to live in a more exciting place. Utopian desire for reality to be fruitful and free of conflict.

    I don't know my future after this weekend
    And I don't want to
    It takes courage to enjoy it
    The hardcore and the gentle
    Big time sensuality

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    EII-Fi: James Blake



    The unknowing of his dreams and love has left him falling through an abyss of despair. He is left to conclude that he might as well abandon them and “fall in” and adopt cliched concepts in the absence of his own.



    The song's main sentiment of wanting to be around, still, "when everything's overgrown" was inspired by an encounter Blake had with Joni Mitchell. The Canadian legend came to see the English singer at a US gig and gave him some wise advise afterwards about building a long-lasting career.

    “Time passes in a constant state,” James Blake sings, with ambiguity, on the title track of his new album... The words “And I want you to know” summon double-time percussion that telegraphs an urgency of longing, while the clock-tick of a closed hi-hat asserts time’s constancy, the piano protests, first cracking the rhythmic frame and then overgrowing it. For Blake, time is always a safe way of talking about another intangible quality that torments us with its constant passage, its quickenings and lulls, its muddled afterimages: love.



    "I didn't resent being an only child, but I saw that other people had brothers and sisters and I always felt slightly sorry for myself that I didn't learn to socialize, (but) there's a contentment with your own company."
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    ​Aldous Harding: EII-Ne
    https://youtu.be/8szSWZojgos
    3:00 min in I actually wanted to put one of her new, more energetic songs, “Designer”, but alas, no decent version on YT

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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    IEE-Fi: Marina Diamandis

    I know I'm EII, but this woman is my dual for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Paul Simon - EII

    So good.

    1. I love folk music

    2. I love carribean music

    3. I love crowd voice ambience

    so yea this song was working on me like a hypnosis

    I see your hypnotic song and raise you.



    This song's type is probably EII if song's could have a type.

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    IEE-Ne: Tyler Okonma



    IEE-Ne: Donald Glover

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    Lol Toska, I remember coming across this woman and liking/vibing with her aesthetic in some pictures/style. Though I guess I talk about vibing with a lot of people She actually facially VI's like my childhood best friend as do other EII's and so I am becoming convinced this friend was an EII.

    [QUOTE=toska;1364441]EII-Fi: Julia Jacklin


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    I love Childish Gambino! Tyler and him seem EIE tho

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    person who typed me LII

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    yeah Childish Gambino is an obvious IEE creative subtype.
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    german IEE band



    Jack Johnson - IEE

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    I think those are some clichéd examples:
    SLIs talking about IEE:





    EIIs:

    Ed Sheeran(no need for videos)



    EII about LSE:


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    The LSE classic:



    IEE-Fi:


    I think the original song is from an ESE, but Sam Feldt(IEE) edited the lyrics a bit

    And a IEE/EIE song for the fun:


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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    Base Ne seems pretty obvious with them.
    really? I hear a lot of Fe name-dropping, hear some Ne, but it's completely controlled by the Fe. And the Ni is all over the place: "sorry i'm just scared of the future" for eample in this video but also "this is America" is just filled with Ni creative.

    These songs as so beta my ears are bleeding. "If you wanna join in because you're exited, then join in, because I like that shit". Can you explain me where exactly the Si or Fi is? For me, that's Se and Fe.

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    EII-INFj / INFP / Strong E4 and 9 energy / Melancholic-Phlegmatic / Musical-Intrapersonal-Spatial / Kinky-Sensual

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    I think this is a potential delta led band

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    Potential IEE-Ne. Couple other types in mind as potential, but I'm rollin' with IEE dammit/seems most likely.
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    Have a feeling I'll get push-back on this one, but another potential IEE-Ne

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    I am a solo musician and I make some kind of Industrial/Synth Metal. Very experimental.

    And as for liking, lots of different genres.

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    EII



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    IEE



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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    IEE-Fi: Marina Diamandis

    I never relate to a person like I relate to her. Back in the day I found her songs, It was quite relaxing to know there exists someone who has similar struggles, thinking... as me, sometimes I would even predict what she would do/say because I would have done/said the same. Now that I know socionics, it all makes sense.

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    IEE-Ne: Jack Johnson

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    EII-Ne: Maya Hawke




    EII-Ne: Aldous Harding


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    Arnoldo Medeiros - Catarina e o Vento (Arnoldo Medeiros/Marcos Valle)
    EII-INFj / INFP / Strong E4 and 9 energy / Melancholic-Phlegmatic / Musical-Intrapersonal-Spatial / Kinky-Sensual

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    Lauv probably IEE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andreasdevig View Post
    Arnoldo Medeiros - Catarina e o Vento (Arnoldo Medeiros/Marcos Valle)
    Have you listened to this album by Marcos Valle? Has a very chill "feel good" vibe, slightly melancholic perhaps. I like the arrangements and the crisp audio engineering.

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    ^Of course, Mr. T. I've listened most everything by Marcos Valle. He's one of my favorite musicians. I'll have to listen to the album again to refresh my memory. It's been a while. "Agua de Coco" sticks out in my memory.

    He was the first Brazilian musician I got into. Previsao de Tempo (1973) was the first Brazilian album I listened to in full.

    Do you like Brazilian music? I know a lot of Jazz folks do.
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    Yeah, "Aqua de Coco" is the one I heard first 10+ years ago on some compilation album by different Brazilian artists. I think radio stations used to play it, as well.

    I do like Brazilian music, but I'm very selective. I really don't care for much of Jobim's work, especially his own renditions or those sung by Astrud Gilberto whose voice and singing I find horrific. I do like specific tunes (both traditional and newly composed) and artists (like Eliane Elias, Dani Gurgel, Sergio Mendes, Djavan, etc.)



    This rendition of Chega de Saudade simply fills me up with joy and hope. Their musicianship is on another level.
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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    This is probably my favorite composition by Jobim, one that actually stands out. It's from an old movie I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Hehe, I never really could get into Jobim or the Gilbertos, either. I like some interpretations, such as these..




    And this is the only version of "The Girl from Ipanema" that I could get into.



    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Very cool harmonies she uses starting at the 4 minute mark there.
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