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    LSI was my initial guess for Knopfler. I’m open to SLI as well.

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    This Georgian woman, "Vera Putina", claims to be Putin's real mother (Georgia the country, not the American state). https://worldbulletin.dunyabulteni.n...er-h32850.html

    This would make his comparison with Joseph Stalin (also LSI) more or less complete.

    Eat your heart out AnnaLynne McCord — better luck giving birth to the next great dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    This Georgian woman, "Vera Putina", claims to be Putin's real mother (Georgia the country, not the American state). https://worldbulletin.dunyabulteni.n...er-h32850.html

    This would make his comparison with Joseph Stalin (also LSI) more or less complete.

    Eat your heart out AnnaLynne McCord — better luck giving birth to the next great dictator.
    Did Putin have a mother? I thought he reproduced by fission, like all bacteria.


    Ok, because I can't help myself, I'll say that "Vera Putina" looks ESE to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Did Putin have a mother? I thought he reproduced by fission, like all bacteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Did Putin have a mother? I thought he reproduced by fission, like all bacteria.
    hmm, perhaps the product of the USSR's biological weapons programme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    SLI is not a leader type. And I don't know why they would be likely to look to the past for guidance. The Si also makes them weak, a forceful leader has to be able to put his base function to work. And VI is not reliable. I don't think SLI can be a serious typing for Putin.
    I don't think SLI are weak. I think they're integrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    This Georgian woman, "Vera Putina", claims to be Putin's real mother (Georgia the country, not the American state). https://worldbulletin.dunyabulteni.n...er-h32850.html

    This would make his comparison with Joseph Stalin (also LSI) more or less complete.

    Eat your heart out AnnaLynne McCord — better luck giving birth to the next great dictator.
    Yes, makes you question reality of the claim due to Stalin even harder.
    But anyway her pic reminds me of this meme
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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscorey View Post
    I don't think SLI are weak. I think they're integrating.
    SLI can be good at physical fighting/activities, but they are very bad at being intimidating toward other people. After playing Cyberpunk 2077 a little bit, I can see it clearly that Keanu Reeves was so bad at acting like a pussy asshole playboy.

    Of course they are not really weak, but they can look a bit weak from the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post

    I think if SEE is divide and conqueror LSI is divide and rule.
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    SLIs are neither weak nor strong. They are vigilant and protective. Defensive rather than offensive. They will never attack or go after you but will fuck you up if they absolutely have to.
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    mb LSE 😬

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    Beta who’s willing to destroy the world out of principle/some hyper specific narrative that only exists in his head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    Beta who’s willing to destroy the world out of principle/some hyper specific narrative that only exists in his head
    You mean the narrative of money, pieces of paper with faces on them that have no real value in the world? I wasn't aware betas were supposed to value Te.

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    I would generally say that Putin seems to be decent at Fe. I also think that he seems logical, and that he seems pretty in-tune with Se (based on the publicized pictures at least). Due to Ukraine, I'm not so sure about his ability to use Ni, although maybe he used it badly due to some kind of pandemic-induced psychological stress. I would generally say that Fe role doesn't fit him, or at least there's no evidence of it. In some of his older interviews, I think he sort of wears a Fe-based mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    You mean the narrative of money, pieces of paper with faces on them that have no real value in the world? I wasn't aware betas were supposed to value Te.
    He wrote some stuff about Greater Russia at some point, but that might not have been his genuine belief system. I don't really think he cares about money though. It seems more like he cares about power, and uses money to achieve that goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarke View Post
    He wrote some stuff about Greater Russia at some point, but that might not have been his genuine belief system. I don't really think he cares about money though. It seems more like he cares about power, and uses money to achieve that goal.
    ...I mean, isn't that why almost everyone values money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    ...I mean, isn't that why almost everyone values money?
    For some people, money is a vehicle to power. For others, power is a vehicle to money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarke View Post
    For some people, money is a vehicle to power. For others, power is a vehicle to money.
    ...I mean, why would you want money except for power? Sure, financial security is a concern, but once you really have power you're at risk of things like assassinations and in more danger than you would be if you were a hobo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    Beta who’s willing to destroy the world out of principle/some hyper specific narrative that only exists in his head
    'Putin is evil because......he JUST IS OK?'

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    I think Putin would be more honest about his finances if he didn’t care about money. I doubt he lives in that 800 sq. ft. apartment on $140,000/year considering his luxury watch collection alone is probably worth more than his apartment and yearly salary combined. Doesn’t really add up lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    'Putin is evil because......he JUST IS OK?'
    Whatever high level geopolitical grievance he has doesn’t justify killing innocent civilians
    Last edited by Averroes; 10-14-2022 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    Whatever high level geopolitical grievance he has doesn’t justify killing innocent civilians
    That can be said for any other politician really. We are far too regressed from being a self sustainable world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber View Post
    his politics is kinda so/sp

    not sure about Enneatype ...not a reactive&group_power-oriented one probably.
    Compare him to Malcolm X for whom socio-cultural ideology defended "by all means possible" (including by sword) was the priority.

    e1w2 makes more sense, given his rigidity and "snake-like" control.
    I always got the impression that he was more 8-like. He likes power, and I'm not entirely sure that he cares about being corrupt. He just didn't really seem to have elements of that during his rule of Russia in general.

    I remember him as being a charismatic, very socially skilled guy. His interactions with others were almost sort of playful sometimes, but I would say that he always seemed on-guard.

    I think his behavior lately might be uncharacteristic of him. Some people have speculated that covid made him stressed or isolated somehow. And enneagram 8's are known for choosing quick solutions to problems when they're stressed...

    Edit: Putin seems like a man who would use the social sphere to fuel himself and his own safety or personal resources. So I would say that he's Sp over So.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeruleum Blue View Post
    ...I mean, why would you want money except for power? Sure, financial security is a concern, but once you really have power you're at risk of things like assassinations and in more danger than you would be if you were a hobo.
    I mean personally, I guess I would want money for personal projects. That's pretty detached from power. I'm not entirely sure whether I'd be using money to get power, or power to get money. I guess I'm more of a money to get power kind of person. Business, in principle, seems like it would be the opposite.

    Maybe my desire to do personal projects is a sort of power over the environment or a certain field of interest. So I guess in my case, money would be a vehicle for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    Whatever high level geopolitical grievance he has doesn’t justify killing innocent civilians
    I'm not the best at morality, but Ukrainians aren't his citizens. To him, it seems like they're basically an enemy that's in the way of his plans to help Russia or accomplish some major goal. I think that's basically his justification for killing them.

    I guess we could say that Putin has no reason to protect or spare them, since he has no obligation to. But then again, this is coming from someone who would probably be morally neutral in DnD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarke View Post
    I'm not the best at morality, but Ukrainians aren't his citizens. To him, it seems like they're basically an enemy that's in the way of his plans to help Russia or accomplish some major goal. I think that's basically his justification for killing them.

    I guess we could say that Putin has no reason to protect or spare them, since he has no obligation to. But then again, this is coming from someone who would probably be morally neutral in DnD.
    This post seems analytical enough. Your true neutral status is conserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavebury View Post
    This post seems analytical enough. Your true neutral status is conserved.
    I'm actually more of a lawful neutral. I like authoritiarian societies as a concept, and I don't like chaos or breaking agreements.

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