Anyone know any NBA ballers types?
Boston Celtics' new Big Three:
Ray Allen -- ESTp
Kevin Garnett -- ENFp
Paul Pierce -- ISFp
Anyone know any NBA ballers types?
Boston Celtics' new Big Three:
Ray Allen -- ESTp
Kevin Garnett -- ENFp
Paul Pierce -- ISFp
Not one damn idea?! C'mon, I know that some of you are sports fans...
On here I've seen Kobe Bryant typed as an ISFp.
What about Shaq? Dwayne Wade? Dirk Nowitzki? Tim Duncan? Tony Parker? Allen Iverson? LeBron James?
Or old players..? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird? Michael Jordan? Dr. J? Wilt Chamberlain?
Anyone?
maybe try this.....i like these answers but i have been wrong before
- Kobe MBTI -SFP (though he has been acting somehat odd to his type as of late...hmmm....i even for a minute thought he was an ENFp--how silly of me)
- D-Wade----obvious INFp--can't miss it...the guy exudes Fe everywhere you look. Shaq always respected D.Wade a lot in his Miami days.....more so than Kobe. Shaq is MBTI xSTP--depending on intratim or extratim definition
- Magic---always ready to party- probably ESFP or maybe extratim ISFp
- M.J.------its been said before----He's an Assasin---i like the ISTj (TiSe) fit on him...also notice he exudes Fe pretty well to (probably anima)
- K.G.--prob similar to M.J.- but yet different---still ISTj...a very flexible ISTj
- Lebron - ESFp
- Dr. J--- I heard of him as an INFp before.....but he's pre mid 80's and beyond what i can assess him..............on a funny note...he couldn;t stop talking at the dunk contest justifying his score fior about 30 secs...it got the fans upset...maybe he is INFP....not exactly in tune with the SP nature of the dunk contest
- Tim Duncan--INFj---anyone misses this 'n they're blind (same type as Lennox Lewis--the boxer)
- Tony Parker- ISTp (Eva might be too)
- A.I- is ISTj (TiSe)
Hey.... I love to do this shit...what can i say.
What type is the now retired STEVE YOUNG of S.F.49ers........some difficulties figuring it out ?
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I've typed most of the ppl on your list using Socionics, (the exceptions being the two SA Spurs,) so I might as well just give a run-down...
Kobe -- ESTp (After having watched interviews with him throughout the Finals, I believe that Strrrng is correct... Exudes Fe, you're right.)
D Wade -- ISFp (I agree with you that he exudes Fe... But not Beta Fe... Same type as Paul Pierce.)
Magic -- ESFp (He's a prototypical ESFp.)
Jordan -- Beta ST
K.G. -- ENFp (I understand how one could mistake KG's intensity for that of a Beta ST, but he is certainly an ethical type... This is a common mis-typing though, i.e. Garnett as ISTj. It's a good typing of his image, i.e. various marketing campaigns present him like that, but if you analyze his interviews, you'll see it's incorrect re: his actual type... Good phrases to describe Garnett's personality: inspirational leader, always talking, emotional to a fault, sincere, direct, wears emotions on his sleeve, etc. None of these accurately describe a ISTj. To describe his game: defers to teammates, finesse player, has been criticized for wilting during 'crunch time,' and not taking 'the big shot...' Again, this flies in the face of his 'assassin' image, but it's the truth about him, for better or worse... IMO, it's for the better. He was an inspirational, emotional leader for the Celtics this season.)
LeBron -- ESXp (Definitely values Se... Gamma values seem more plausible for LeBron than for Kobe, e.g. the respective stories about both players during the playoffs, which showed them with their families... The difference in values is illustrated well in those pieces.)
Dr. J -- INXp (cerebral player... reminiscent of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in that way, although I am not sure that they're the same type.)
Iverson -- Beta ST ("assassin," as you put it.)
I believe that you're coming from a different system than me, i.e. some other typing system, so I don't know where we'll get with this, but we'll see... I'm not sure about the guys on the Spurs you types, although it's obvious that they're both introverts...
Phil Jackson is Gamma NT
Steve Young? I'll look into it and get back to you.
I'm goin to the parade tomorrow for the Celtics...
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I come attempting to incorporate both systems as there can be only one shared right answer. MBTI and Socionics should still be the same at the base level of functional use (aside J/P controversy)... though the actual people portraits or profiles within have some conspicuous differences ..........in basic the functions represent the ultimate reality which provides for manifestation.
I dont like the Kobe one.
I can live with D.WADE as ISFp but i think he is a lot like EMMANUEL STEWARD (INFp and definitely BETA) , the boxing trainer....there are different subtypes of INFp.
K.G.---i stated what i did---i seenn some post game clips of him to see if he exemplified ENFp traits--to my recollection not..not even close----but i can take another look and get back to you...you never know till tou see someone's most relevant side.
The rest looks good or is at the very least negotiable.
btw...my hunch on Phil Jackson is NiTe
---parade----u better have a good time now cus they ain't winning it next year.
ENTP:wink:ALPHA
I agree with you about Phil Jackson.
To be honest, last year I wouldn't have typed Garnett ENFp either--but then I saw him almost everyday for a year... "It is what it is," as he'd say. Strong Fi.
I've had difficulty typing Kobe as well--to be honest, I think that he might have some mental inconsistencies, i.e. he is immature, and sometimes tries to be someone he's not, (IMO he tries very hard to emulate Jordan in almost every way--he's nearly 30, but in this way, he acts like he's still 15.) This behavior makes him difficult to type.
I'll check on Emmanuel Steward... Also, unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with hockey, (except Gretzky=ISTp.)
I disagree with you that Socionics types always = MBTI types, and that "there can be only one shared right answer." For example, in MBTI, Jordan is ISTp; in Socionics, he's Beta ST... I don't doubt that your typing is correct in the system that you're using... If you're up for it though, I suggest that you try typing exclusively by Socionics in this thread, i.e. functional preferences, quadras, etc--you may reach different conclusions re: players like Wade, Pierce, and Garnett.
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I'm a fan....I read kobe was INTx, jordan was INFj, iverson is ESFp, dwayne ESTp or maybe I, ummm shaq...I dunno....like ESFp/j
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LMAO LMAO ....these are all funny...they remind me of the types i used to throw out there when i first started doing this.
....keep 'em coming.....one can always use a good laugh...thats for sure.
lol...sometimes it just pays to go down to the old figurative Sports Bar around here....
ENTP:wink:ALPHA
LOLOriginally Posted by JuJu
umm, like, I dunno... wrongOriginally Posted by strrrng
if you maybe specified, your post would be halfway valid :wink:Originally Posted by Rocky
You have better ideas about the Celtics, DiscoJoe?
I watch almost every game, and that seems right. Pierce and Garnett, especially.
In my opinion:Originally Posted by strrrng
Kobe=isfp
Jordan=istp
iverson=estp (best guess, not sure)
d. wade=isfp
shaq=xstp (best guess, not sure)
I have the perfect website for you: www.braintypes.com. They specialize in typing athletes using their own brain/movement-based system, but applying Myers-Briggs terminology. It shares some similarities with socionics; J types all have rigid motor movements and tend to have more defined facial features. Every type that you listed is the same as what they've typed, except for Iverson, who they say is an ISTP, and Shaq, for whom you are essentially, but not fully in agreement in your guess, as they say he's an ISTP. This is interesting, because the functional ordering they give is based on Myers-Briggs theory, and rational types are brain-typing judgers, and irrational types are brain-typing perceivers.
Jason
Yeah, I just skimmed through the first article. They said that Ray Allen is an ESFP (you're one preference off), Kevin Garnett an ENFP, and Paul Pierce an ISFP. I say that you threaten them; demand a $100,000 a year salary or you'll go public with your NBA typing skills. lol.
Jason
My guesses:
Gasol: ENTj
Jordan: INFj
Pippen: ESTj
Rodman: ESTp
Magic: ESFj
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
:edit: premature horseshit
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here is an interview for you, strrrng... it's pretty good starting at 1:15 min in or so... xSFp, I'm thinkin...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UMMY9iPcSAg
Much different than MJ, who seems ISTp:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wPGIzvo6nA4
I'm really curious about Michael Jordan's type
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I think MJ is ISTj. He seems clearly static from his mannerisms, and I would lean towards Fe>Fi. Kobe is ESTp, pretty sure of that. Ray Allen honestly seems Si-valuing - I would lean towards ISTp. Lebron is an ESTp and the worst kind.
what up strrrng, I could see MJ as ISTj... ISTx for sure... Interviews w/ interaction might be able to help me discern Fe or Fi valuing... I'll go try to find some... Why do you think that Kobe is ESTp? I want to see if I can see what you see.
LeBron--when I saw him interviewed during the Celtics series, I thought was ESFp... This is a different interview:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8r8DUJ7d8iM&feature=related
Compare with Magic Johnson, who is without a doubt ESFp:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SgeD29HF134&feature=related
Last edited by JuJu; 06-01-2008 at 05:49 PM.
MJ ISTp
Kobe ENTj
Shaq ESFp
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I've found Kobe very difficult to type... I agree with Beta... What makes you think rational? I've considered mostly Fe-valuing irrational, (for awhile, even ESFp until I noticed that there was no Fi there.)
During the Finals (Lakers v. Celtics) I was considering ESTj and ENTj... The more that I hear from him, the more that I agree with you. Good typing.
Good typing here too... ISFp is more likely, IMO... Informal interviews illustrate irrationality, although his 'canned answers' after games can make him seem rational... Very similar to Paul Pierce.
I agree here too... Good typings.
Do you have an opinion on Carmelo Anthony?
Uhm, he "looks" more rational in terms of VI (angular face-more discrete movements), but it's not something definitive or that can be considered as very strong evidence. Comparing him to James, for example, it's clear that lebron is ESTp and kobe is...something else. But yes, he's not easy to type.
By VI and by his life history and behavior, I'd say xSFP. But I don't know if ISFp or ESFp is better.Do you have an opinion on Carmelo Anthony?
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/a...t2.kobe.wi.jpg ---kobe....IT
Players in the NBA finals. Boston Celtics starting five:
Kevin Garnett -- Boston Celtics -- ENFp
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVAXzkd326E
Rajon Rondo -- Boston Celtics -- ISTx
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hk8-y88HmPE
Kendrick Perkins -- Boston Celtics -- ISTp
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_aDL9ZrvE8&feature=related
Paul Pierce -- Boston Celtics -- ISFp
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jMvGHTFVoQ4
Ray Allen -- Boston Celtics -- ??? (not sure... need help typing. ESTp?)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cMwplWcMo8Q
Last edited by JuJu; 06-01-2008 at 05:48 PM. Reason: better rondo interview
???
Lebron: Fi-xEE
J.R. Smith: Se-SLE
Dwyane Wade: Fe-SEI
Steph Curry: ISXx
Joakim Noah: SLI
Derrick Rose: SLI
Tim Duncan: Si-valuing
Kobe: SLE
Michael Jordan: LSI
Larry Bird: LSE
Shaq: Se-base or Fe-SEI
Magic Johnson: ESE
Steve Nash: SLI
John Stockton: SLI (?)
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Your typings are excellent. Not sure about Smith; he looks ISTx but VI isn't the best typing method, nor about Curry (could he be ESI?)
I think Kingslayer is right about Duncan being LSE.
Very interesting and plausible suggestions you've made: SEI for O'Neal, IEE for James. O'Neal of course seems Se but that's the sport, and dynamic types shift a lot more in relation to their environment than static types do. O'Neal could absolutely be SEI
James as IEE would make a lot of sense because he's more macho than most SEE men (I don't know why I say this; other Fi type men can be macho but SEE is so hypersocial which I suppose is socially coded as female behaviour).. And there are photos where James looks SLE; nobody uses cogstyles anymore, but there does appear to be some sort of visual pattern in the supervision rings
Reservations: I don't think intuitives would be as much use in sport, particularly one requiring quick reactions. Certainly there are intuitive basketball players, but will they be called 'GOAT'? --Among intuitives, Se role does seem the most plausible; I don't see INXx types having much ascendancy. ENTx would have some advantages due to Te, but that does not improve reaction times, and Ni is too indirect to be of much use
SLI is good for Stockton; LSE is good for Bird as well.
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The day before game 4 of the Bulls Suns finals with the Bulls leading the series 2-1. Michael and Charles Barkley went golfing. They played 48 holes of golf. And Michael bought Charles a $20,000 diamond earring. Johnny asked MJ, “what did you do all that for?” Michael responded, “he won’t get in my way the rest of the series, what’s $20,000 to me? Charles thinks we’re great friends. I hate that fat f—.” Jordan dropped 55 in game 4 and Barkley never touched him once..In one of his first practices with the Bulls, Parish botched one of the plays and was amused to find Jordan jawing at him just inches from his face.
‘I told him, “I’m not as enamored with you as these other guys. I’ve got some rings too,”’ Parish recalled. ‘At that point he told me, “I’m going to kick your ass.” I took one step closer and said, “No, you really aren’t.” After that he didn’t bother me.’
Gonna revive this since I love basketball and would like to hear what everyone thinks of my favorite teams' types! Not sure how to post them as images form my work computer, will adjust the links to images when I get home.
Dangelo Russel:
I get Gamma Vibes
https://www.google.com/search?q=d%27...ih=852#imgrc=_
Kenny Atkinson: LSI?
https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...67.5NCzPmfBHdM
Sean Marks LIE?
https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...67.W-EeuGDkPpM
Joe Harris:
ESFp? Maybe ISTp?
https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...67.lMdlIOQ0QiY
Also not on my team, but someone I really look up to in my life looks and acts just like Gregg Poppovich
https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...24.z7BKX1dxLXI
Some sort of TE ego?
As for other players mentioned here, not much of an opinion on most but I will say:
Jordan is 100% LSI
Lebron James is SLE
Magic Johnson ESE
Kobe Bryant LIE (Si polr, I'm pretty confident in this here)
Shaq: SLE (could be SEE, but I think he's fi polr)
Chris Paul: SEE
Allen Iverson SLE
Paul Pierce SEI
Dwayne Wade SEI
Charles Barkley SEE
Steve Nash SLI
Good typing; I've considered delta ST because of his mature, sort of old-school vibe but LSI is quite plausible.
You have James, Iverson, and O'Neal as the same type, but I think James can't be Fi polr. SEE seems likely; his wife also looks like a gamma introverted typeLebron James is SLE
He is a bit macho for SEE, though he doesn't really look ESI (smiles more openly). Perhaps it's typical for the sort of speech he's giving, but he really focuses on relationships, including his own relationship with basketball... Fi polr types seem to talk in more anodyne terms
YesMagic Johnson ESE
I don't think he's Fi-valuing. Probably sensoric lead; SLE is plausibleShaq: SLE (could be SEE, but I think he's fi polr)
As likely as not. He looks it. Excellent PGSteve Nash SLI
Shaq, Iverson and Lebron can all be the same type. There's multiple variations to each type. They essentially seemed like Se leads and logical to me. I actually think Allen Iverson is SLI-Te sub now. I'm not entirely sure on Shaq. I can see Shaq being ethical over logical. Iverson has that assassins' mentality. He's not efficient but he will keep aggressively attacking all game. Has that pragmatic look and feel of the game where he just knows how to score with skill and technique on top of his athleticism. His Fe polr has gotten him into trouble by being "too real" with reffs, media etc. Such as his infamous practice interivew.
Lebron seems like a classic Se base to me too. I could see SEE but he also seems logical to me. He's egotistical and a bit emotional, but again, variation. I believe Enneagram plays a role in the sort of variation. Lebron being So/Sx makes him more people oriented. Remember he's almost 40 now and is a smart guy who has a shit ton of life experience now. He's learned what's important, and with Fe as a hidden agenda, I don't see why he wouldn't be focusing on relationships, family etc as he matures/ages.