Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt

[silke]

Angelina - Si-ISFp 4w5 sx/sp
Brad - Ne-ENTp 8w7 sp-last - which would make them the typical enneagram types 4-8 couple.

The SLI composite comparisons to Angelina in older discussion seemed very to the point - she is Si base in any case.


Edit: wow, Brad Pitt's marriage to Jennifer Aniston (IEI) does sound like it was "mirage" relations - link:

"I spent the '90s trying to hide out, trying to duck the full celebrity cacophony. I started to get sick of myself sitting on a couch, holding a joint, hiding out. It started feeling pathetic," Pit tells the magazine. "It became very clear to me that I was intent on trying to find a movie about an interesting life, but I wasn't living an interesting life myself."
Pitt said his marriage to the "Friends" star, whom he wed in 2000, was part of the problem. "I think that my marriage had something to do with it," he said. "Trying to pretend the marriage was something that it wasn't."

I remember this same interest eroding thing going on in my relationship with my "mirage" ex, and it was also one of the main reasons we broke up after being together for a long time.

[Olimpia]

Honestly, I believe Angelina is actually a Counterphobic 6 with a strong 4 in her tritype.
ESI-Se 6w7 Sx/So, (648) - Truth Teller

While I believe Brad Pitt is
ESI 9w8 So/Sp (936) - The Mediator

They are actually Identicals, but because their Enneagram is so different they seem to be opposites.
At the end of the day, both bond over their shared interest in Social causes, and their ethical values they bring forward when engaging in those causes.
Just because they are the "It-couple" of Hollywood does not mean they must be Duals...

I know my typing is not too popular, though I'd still like to get it out there. ^^'

[Adam Strange]

Honestly, I believe Angelina is actually a Counterphobic 6 with a strong 4 in her tritype.
ESI-Se 6w7 Sx/So, (648) - Truth Teller

While I believe Brad Pitt is
ESI 9w8 So/Sp (936) - The Mediator

They are actually Identicals, but because their Enneagram is so different they seem to be opposites.
At the end of the day, both bond over their shared interest in Social causes, and their ethical values they bring forward when engaging in those causes.
Just because they are the "It-couple" of Hollywood does not mean they must be Duals...

I know my typing is not too popular, though I'd still like to get it out there. ^^'

I just watched an interview of Angelina Jolie, and she absolutely does not seem like a LIE to me. Maybe she is ESI, maybe not, IDK, but she does not do microexpressions like either of the female LIE's I know.
Both of the female LIE's seem kind of thoughtful and preoccupied. When they see you, they might smile brightly and act friendly but will basically be asking you what you want, because their time is precious and you are taking it up.

[lynn]

Brad Pitt: ESE so/sx

[suedehead]

Angelina: SLI
Brad: Alpha irrational

[lemontrees]

Ang: SLI sx/sp
Brad: IEE sp/sx

[maniac]

Angelina is definitely a sensor, maybe ESI.
Brad pitt some ST.

[Zero]

Personally I think ISTp/ESTp but I could see ISTp/ENTj. Yeah I do think they could have a contrary relationship.

I always wonder how SLE and LIE look alike and are mistaken for one another too often. I think I look much more like an SLE from outside rather than an EIE which is my look-alike.

[Adam Strange]

I always wonder how SLE and LIE look alike and are mistaken for one another too often. I think I look much more like an SLE from outside rather than an EIE which is my look-alike.

Pictures, please.

You know, there are not many pictures of LIE females around.

Personally, I have never confused SLE's with LIE's, male or female. I can see where there are similarities, but LIE's are essentially thoughtful and reserved (even when really extroverted) and SLE's are forceful and immediate.
EIE's seem socially concerned and/or adept, but their focus seems scattered to me, as if they can't concentrate on the practical here and now, somehow.

[Adam Strange]

I don't confuse them either but at first sight only, they are more similar than LIE-EIE to me maybe because I know only 2 EIEs and both are mentally ill.
One thing about LIE females I read is that they care about physical strength and never wear makeup and their clothing is either sport or work clothes, they keep their hair short which is easier and faster to manage and are typical tomboys. Also I meant their behavior not their VI but anyway here's an unsatisfying selfie since this is the only one I've got on my phone currently:
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Edit: I do have protruding ears and an elongated chin which are typical LIE VI right?

My ears are probably normal, more or less, but my chin does look like yours.
The female LIE's I know have longish hair (shoulder length) and good bodies, not overweight. The clothes they wear are more functional than decorative. I think the older one wears makeup, but I really didn't notice. Maybe yes, maybe no. She is quite attractive just as she is, in a tough, no nonsense kind of way. You can tell she's smart as hell and she has a twinkle in her eyes. At least, when she is not dealing with problem people, she does. She actually looks a lot like the woman in this video. Same face, same hair, same bone structure, far fewer regrets:

[Zero]

I'm like 99% sure that Angelina is ENTj but what is Brad Pitt? Any other ideas about Angelina?

Angelina is actually ISFp

[maniac]

Angelina Jolie is a 3w4 sx/sp. I thought at first she's unusually flat and 'polished' for being sx first, but 3s are like that, so it makes sense with her history.
I don't understand the 468 typings, she is not reactive at all. You guys that type her that, should meet me. 468 are made to react to dangers and foresee threats. I do not see that with her. If an emergency broke out she would just say in a monotone voice "uh, what do we do?". She probably has a 9 fix.

468s can have trouble identifying what is a true emergency and what just feels like an emergency. If their internal alarm bells go off, the 468s are in fight or flight. Once their emotions are triggered their adrenaline is running in hyper-drive and needs to be discharged. So it is extremely difficult for the 468 Tritype to slow down and delay reacting.

[maniac]

That is her public persona, she is an actress. I hear she's pretty crazy and ruthless in person.

Jolie in the 90's was known for being pretty insane in general. As a teen she used to cut herself and she was kicked out of her house for fucking her mom's boyfriend. There is a candid video I've seen of her from the 90's where she openly admits to beating her dog to death. She had drug issues and even checked herself into a mental institution for having homicidal and suicidal thoughts (where she was diagnosed with BPD). She "calmed down" her public image a lot once she adopted her first child. Now she has taken on this whole humanitarian persona, which I believe is just that, a persona.

Yeah, that is sx and/or mental illnesses. Not reactivity.

[Sol]

which I believe is just that, a persona

Stoping of using drugs, treatment, other close people, getting other philosophy knowledge, etc could change her behavior. I'm sure she did not kill dogs in the last 5 years, except neighbours' ones - but they were just too loud.

[maniac]

She passively killed her dog. She didnt feed it.

Since when do SLI come off cold and calculated?

[Pookie]

SLI & ILE are my guesses. If either is a feeler, its Pitt.

[darya]

She's not Fe imo. Either SLI (most likely) or ESI - something cold. Pitt I'm not sure either - some EP (not SLE). They both seem much different now than in earlier interviews.

[darya]

It boggles my mind how Angelina Jolie, Justin Bieber and @lemontrees are all supposed to be SEI ?

[yeves]

brad is so lost without her



interesting answer @4 minutes of the interview

[draon9]

Angelina see

[Milo]

It boggles my mind how Angelina Jolie, Justin Bieber and @lemontrees are all supposed to be SEI ?

Socionics identicals are not personality identicals. If you're expecting them to be similar due to having the same socionics type, you're thinking of sociotypes in the wrong way.

Besides, I got the impression that SEI is the most misunderstood and misconstrued type on this forum, with too few wanting to consider or discuss it.

[Kill4Me]

Angelina Jolie...IEI-Fe
Brad Pitt...IEE-Fi

[wacey]

Angelina Jolie...IEI-Fe
Brad Pitt...IEE-Fi

The are in a relationship of extinguishment and married?

Brangelina... "america's strongest marriage."

[Aster]

Seeing Angelina typed LIE and SEI makes me feel pretty discouraged about socionics, not going to lie...

Anyway, count me in for SEI for Angelina.

Brad, no idea. But he seems like a likable guy. Probably one of my favorite actors. Maybe that means something socionically...

[Jake]

Angelina: ESTp
Brad: ISFj

[lynn]

[wacey]

I guess they are getting divorced : / Hope not they are so sweet.

[Arcadea]

Brad Pitt: SEE
Angelina Jolie: IEI

[ashlesha]

I love how the typings are all over the place for these people

[lynn]

brad: ESE
angelina: LII
jennifer aniston: ILE
jennifer's current husband: ESE
actress brad supposedly cheated with (i dunno), marion cotillard: LII
she's in a relationship with guillaume canet who's ESE

... socionics sudoku

[Beautiful sky]

They are all SEE Brad Angelina and Jennifer

[Jake]

They are all SEE Brad Angelina and Jennifer

What makes you think SEE for Angelina?

[Beautiful sky]

What makes you think SEE for Angelina?

NAPOLEONKA - dazzling, notable, energetic, very specific woman with a deep sense of self-respect. The form of face is more frequent rounded, although there are as always exceptions.

She holds herself confidently and speaks somewhat ironically. She loves to joke, laughs in a friendly manner while speaking, which producers the impression that she feels herself familiar everywhere. Her tone of voice is frequently low, with a bit of a coarseness.

Her clothing, however modest she is, always fits her well and looks completely appropriate. She knows how to dress fitting to the situation. For informal situations, she can select sufficiently catchy, even extravagant look.

[maniac]

Brad SLI 3w? sp/so
Angelina SEI 3w4 sx/sp

[wacey]

At 26, he showed a lot of awkwardness with a tinge of aloof smugness, probably covering a little insecurity. If I didn't know him I'd say SLI, or even a private IEE. Although I've met ILE who have that haughtiness about them as well. Still, SLI. The "don't pry at me" type.

[ScarlettLux]

At 26, he showed a lot of awkwardness with a tinge of aloof smugness, probably covering a little insecurity. If I didn't know him I'd say SLI, or even a private IEE. Although I've met ILE who have that haughtiness about them as well. Still, SLI. The "don't pry at me" type.

Wow, yeah... I can see SLI. We would probably conflict. Hard. He said stuff about not caring what others thought at all, was not forthcoming about any personal life information.. had very little emotional expression. He was also very uncomfortable talking about direct future goals. He kept being asked his opinion on where the show should go, what he wants... His answers centre around not knowing, not being there yet (devaluing Ni?)

[wacey]

Wow, yeah... I can see SLI. We would probably conflict. Hard. He said stuff about not caring what others thought at all, was not forthcoming about any personal life information.. had very little emotional expression. He was also very uncomfortable talking about direct future goals. He kept being asked his opinion on where the show should go, what he wants... His answers centre around not knowing, not being there yet (devaluing Ni?)

Yes, I was seeing similar observations. You summed it up really well. Although there was lots of expression on his part, but all of it seemed to "sneak out" in a way that reveals his true sentiments, which seemed to be devalued Fe? Unless he was trying to seem uncomfortable. I found myself asking why the chip on the shoulder?

[lynn]

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[Reficulris]

I love how the typings are all over the place for these people

Welcome to the new and improved the16types.

I thought it has always been the case that all typings for all people here where all over the place?

#confused

[Hermit Soul]

Brad Pitt - ILE
Angelina Jolie - SLI