Type Prototypes

**Scrummy** · 11-07-2005, 07:38 PM

I was thinking... it might be nice to have prototypes - male and female - for each type. For example, famous people that we know for sure have been typed correctly to the best of our ability - those who we can consider as "typical" examples of their type. This might be of great in typing ourselves/friend/other famous people. I don't agree with many of the Socionics.com Celebritypes, so I wanted to figure out some better examples. It would help if the person is alive, or has been living since the advent of film so we can study speech, movement patterns, also.

**Rocky** · 11-07-2005, 09:49 PM

I don't think anyone is EVER going to agree on anything, but we can give it a shot:

Sensory-logical Intratim- Wayne Gretzky, Angelina Jolie
Ethical-intuitive Intratim- Prince, ?
Logical-sensory Extratim- Bob Dole, Rose Kennedy
Intuitve-ethical Extratim- Jeff Gordan, Oprah
Intuitive-logical Intratim- Bob Dylan, ?
Ethical-sensory Intratim- Derrik Lee, ?
Logical-intuitive Extratim- Martin Luther King Jr., Katie Couric
Sensory-ethical Extratim- Barry Bonds, Britney Spears
Logical-sensory Intratim- Coach K, Chris Evert
Intuitive-ethical Intratim- Tiger Woods, Mila Kunis
Sensory-logical Extratim- Peyton Manning, Madonna
Ethical-intuitive Extratim- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford
Logical-intuitive Intratim- Randy Johnson, Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Sensory-ethical Intratim- Mark McQuire, Hillary Duff
Intuitive-logical Extratim- Robin Williams, Bette Midler
Ethical-sensory Extratim- ?, Barbara Bush??

**Kim** · 11-08-2005, 12:10 AM

Ethical-intuitive Extratim- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford

Noooooooooooo!!!!

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**Rocky** · 11-08-2005, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Kim

Ethical-intuitive Extratim- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford

Noooooooooooo!!!!

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Kim, you are the Intuitive-ethical Extratim (ENFP... intuition first), I said Cruise is an Ethical-intuitive Extratim (ENFJ... the ethical part came first). You got Jeff Gordan and Oprah.

Does no one like Cruise?

**XcaliburGirl** · 11-08-2005, 12:14 AM

Rocky, all your lists have too many sports figures.

**Joy** · 11-08-2005, 12:17 AM

what type is meg ryan?

**Rocky** · 11-08-2005, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by XcaliburGirl

Rocky, all your lists have too many sports figures.

..well, I just know sports well, and it's easier to find a lot of people in sports to type than other places. On this list I had 10 sports figures with 18 non-sports figures. Besides, I had to use current people (so no Robs'pierre, Napolean, etc..)

**Topaz** · 11-08-2005, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Joy

what type is meg ryan?

Thats what Im sayin

and what about Goldie Hawn too? socionics.com has them as SLI. I always wondered if that was acurate. I hope so

**Slacker** · 11-08-2005, 12:40 AM

I want to know who Jude Law, Ewan McGregor, and Russell Crowe are

**Rocky** · 11-08-2005, 12:55 AM

Goldie Hawn- IEE/ ENFP
Russel Crow- SLE/ ESTP

**indigoroom** · 11-08-2005, 01:17 AM

Rocky, Goldie Hawn is 10000% INFp!

**Kim** · 11-08-2005, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rocky

Originally Posted by Kim

Ethical-intuitive Extratim- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford

Noooooooooooo!!!!

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Kim, you are the Intuitive-ethical Extratim (ENFP... intuition first), I said Cruise is an Ethical-intuitive Extratim (ENFJ... the ethical part came first). You got Jeff Gordan and Oprah.

Does no one like Cruise?

Sorry...

I don't know Jeff Gordan and I can live with Oprah :wink:

**indigoroom** · 11-08-2005, 04:59 AM

Ethical-intuitive Intratim- Prince, ?

Prince is INFp too.

Intuitive-ethical Intratim- Tiger Woods

He's not a good example since most INFps are rarely drawn to sports

**Scrummy** · 11-08-2005, 05:04 AM

I was thinking Jimi Hendrix as prototypical INFp male.

**Rocky** · 11-08-2005, 11:26 AM

: Not everyone is an IEI.

baby: Hendrix works, I could go for that.

**Joy** · 11-08-2005, 12:47 PM

Can we use Ted Turner for the male ENTp?

**discourse** · 11-08-2005, 01:32 PM

No wander I like Hillary Duff.

But the Oprah show doesn't run in Estonia, but in Fablulouse life of in VH1 was a show about her and I would say that she is INTp. Cone is a good example of how INTp can give ethical advice to others.

**Topaz** · 11-08-2005, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by male21

No wander I like Hillary Duff.

But the Oprah show doesn't run in Estonia, but in Fablulouse life of in VH1 was a show about her and I would say that she is INTp. Cone is a good example of how INTp can give ethical advice to others.

I always thought Oprah was EIE (enfj). She has the drive and the charisma. I'm fairly certain she is not introverted. Definitely NF. There is a certain amount of focus and control that she would have to have to stay where she is. She speaks alot about Ni subjects as well. If she were IEE (enfp) she'd have a difficult time staying consistent. Hmmmm

**Park** · 11-08-2005, 05:11 PM

I have never liked Oprah. My impressions are that she's an ENFJ.

**Park** · 11-08-2005, 05:21 PM

Robin Williams - ILE??? But, I always thought he's an IEE(ENFP).

And how about Michael Jackson for ISFp?

**Rocky** · 11-08-2005, 09:44 PM

Oprah is too manipulative to be a rational.

I think Robin Williams is a logical type (loves attention, but still logical...)

I thought Micheal Jackson was actually an IEI (happy ? :wink: ). Cedric Bexlir would be another SEI if you don't like Big Mac...

**Cone** · 11-08-2005, 11:42 PM

Oprah is too manipulative to be a rational.

And an extrovert. Manipulation is an Ip skill.

**Rocky** · 11-09-2005, 12:04 AM

Cone, all irrational types can be manipulative... not just the introverts.

**Cone** · 11-09-2005, 12:11 AM

Yeah, but Ips are more heavily dependent on it. Eps are more direct.

**Topaz** · 11-09-2005, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Rocky

Oprah is too manipulative to be a rational.

I think Robin Williams is a logical type (loves attention, but still logical...)

I thought Micheal Jackson was actually an IEI (happy ? :wink: ). Cedric Bexlir would be another SEI if you don't like Big Mac...

EIE are not manipulative? I see Oprah as manipulating belief. Thats creative Ni.
Robin Williams could be ILE. His movies contain alot of drippy overthetop Fe. He seems to like all the attention.
We are going to have to see Cedric Bexlir to call it. Does Mars Volta have videos? I havent had a TV for the last 6 months so Im out of the loop

I think Michael Jackson is SEI. If you ever read the lyrics he has written (when he did write them) it becomes apparent he is not IEI. IMO of course :wink:

**Rocky** · 11-09-2005, 01:33 AM

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/267...te=7103&htv=12 (At the Drive-in)

http://www.themarsvolta.com/frances.html (The Mars Volta)

Watch him bounce!

**Scrummy** · 11-09-2005, 10:35 PM

Well that idea sucked...

**Rocky** · 11-09-2005, 11:11 PM

ahem.. work in progress...

Sensory-logical Intratim (SLI)- Wayne Gretzky, Angelina Jolie
Ethical-intuitive Intratim (EII)- Prince, ?
Logical-sensory Extratim (LSE)- Bob Dole, Rose Kennedy
Intuitve-ethical Extratim (IEE)- Jeff Gordan,
Intuitive-logical Intratim (ILI)- Bob Dylan, ?
Ethical-sensory Intratim (ESI)- Derrik Lee, ?
Logical-intuitive Extratim (LIE)- Martin Luther King Jr., Katie Couric
Sensory-ethical Extratim (SEE)- Barry Bonds, Britney Spears
Logical-sensory Intratim (LSI)- Coach K, Chris Evert
Intuitive-ethical Intratim (IEI)- Jimi Hendrix, Mila Kunis
Sensory-logical Extratim (SLE)- Peyton Manning, Madonna
Ethical-intuitive Extratim (EIE)- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford
Logical-intuitive Intratim (LII)- Prince Charles, Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Sensory-ethical Intratim (SEI)- Cedric Bixler, Hillary Duff
Intuitive-logical Extratim (ILE)- Robin Williams, Bette Midler
Ethical-sensory Extratim (ESE)- ?, Barbara Bush??

**mimisor** · 11-10-2005, 11:25 AM

What about Kelly Osbourne?

**Dragonfly** · 11-10-2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rocky

ahem.. work in progress...
Ethical-intuitive Extratim (EIE)- Tom Cruise, Cindy Crawford

Tom Cruise is ISFP in MBTI i'm sure.

**Scrummy** · 11-10-2005, 07:47 PM

Okay, it might work a bit better if everyone propsed a few examples for their own type.

**mimisor** · 11-10-2005, 08:56 PM

Kelly Osbourne - ESTp?

Alicia Keys - ESFj?

Eminem - ESFp?

This are my own perceptions, they might be wrong, though

**Rocky** · 11-10-2005, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by gugu_ baba

Kelly Osbourne - ESTp?

Alicia Keys - ESFj?

Eminem - ESFp?

This are my own perceptions, they might be wrong, though

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How about Fiona Apple for ESE?

**mimisor** · 11-10-2005, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rocky

How about Fiona Apple for ESE?

Nah, she seems too melancholical to me, she has this constant grief on her face; and also rather an introvert, preoccupied and affected by inner world She might be an INTj/ LII

But Alicia Keys is to me the perfect ESE/ ESFj prototype. I am almost sure

She has this chillout attitude and caring for others comfort and needs in her songs

**Ms. Kensington** · 11-10-2005, 10:55 PM

INTp-- Woody Allen

I was reading an article last night about him. He was just unbelievably INTp.

Is John Lennon INTp?

**MysticSonic** · 11-10-2005, 11:59 PM

"Is John Lennon INTp?"

INTp or INFp.

It could be all the weed, though.

**Park** · 11-11-2005, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington

INTp-- Woody Allen

I was reading an article last night about him. He was just unbelievably INTp.

Yeah, I think he's a great INTp example.

What type is Rene Zellweger? Could she be considered ESFj?

**Topaz** · 11-11-2005, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by gugu_ baba

Kelly Osbourne - ESTp?

Alicia Keys - ESFj?

Eminem - ESFp?

This are my own perceptions, they might be wrong, though

Id say Eminem is LIE -ENTJ
Alicia Keys looks alot like ESI-ISFJ and so does Beyonce to me.

**Park** · 11-12-2005, 02:53 AM

I think Burt Reynolds would be a perfect ISTp (SLI) prototype. And I can see a lot of myself in him.

**mimisor** · 11-12-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Topaz

Alicia Keys looks alot like ESI-ISFJ

How come, Topaz? Please tell me she is ESFj. I need a confirmation here
I am torn.

Watch the video If I Ain't Got You from here

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-284870-videos--Alicia-Keys

I can definetely see the Si as her creative function, as she often speaks about how she enjoys spending hours in a row singing on piano

EDIT: I have the confirmation HOORAY !HOORAY! dudeins said Alicia Keys is ESFJ

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