I'm confused by your reasoning.Originally Posted by Ezra
Of course.Have you considered SLI or SEI?
Maybe people here haven't realized my view of the forum. I think the views are so far apart, so vague, that's it's hard to have an agreement on anything. That's why I've basically been saying lately that I think my type is up for interpretation to each person.
Sorry, that was extremely poor. It makes little sense.
What I'm trying to say is that those who represent the IP temperament are not always lazy. ISTPs in MBTI are perfect examples of this. I don't know what their socionics equivalent is like though.
Ignore the rest. It's meaningless. I'm tired.
Absolutely. I'm with you on that one. One minute I'm EIE (perhaps LSE), next minute I'm SLE, then people are considering LIE. It's because some have better understandings of types, functions etc., and are thus harder to convince when someone comes along and gives multiple, differing descriptions of themselves, and others are more easily swayed by minute, unimportant details e.g. "well, I'm not sure you're LII anymore, because only LSIs do that really" when it may be complete bullshit.Maybe people here haven't realized my view of the forum. I think the views are so far apart, so vague, that's it's hard to have an agreement on anything. That's why I've basically been saying lately that I think my type is up for interpretation to each person.
No, but you are proof-proof anyhow so it wouldn't b of much help.ORLY?I think that's way more IP than IJ. Se (or Ne) dual-seeking > Se creative. IXTp > ISTj.
You have proof?
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By my understanding: EJs get stuff done all the time (and pretty much are always up to something), IJs only get the stuff done that absolutely needs to get done (and try to minimize what falls into that category, although that might be Ti IJ specifically).
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No. I didn't perceive you were powerful. I perceived that you want others to perceive that you are powerful. Totally different.It's the way you've perceived me. Perhaps it's a good thing. After all, doesn't everyone want to be seen as powerful?
Such a little teenage boy for me to mold into whatever I feel like. Hmm. So youthful.. so impressionable. Shaping and taming you would be evil, but it's hard to resist.
With that said, yes, I think everybody wants to be seen as powerful.
And IPs get nothing done, right?By my understanding: EJs get stuff done all the time (and pretty much are always up to something), IJs only get the stuff done that absolutely needs to get done (and try to minimize what falls into that category, although that might be Ti IJ specifically).
Why? Being seen as powerful is dangerous. It's better to be powerful and nobody notices, so that you can attack and devour with the enemy surprised.
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lol my cousin told me the same thing. 'Quieter people are more effective because you don't expect that out of 'em.'
I'm very quiet and calm in real life. But I'm not sure I got the surprise thing down packed because if I do try to act that way I just get laughed at or people think I'm being silly. So I don't think I'm very effective in that. (talking about real life interactions, I'm much better online)
Sometimes I can be effectively cruel and psychologically damaging and honestly really intimidating, but it makes me feel sick inside afterwards like the first evil from buffy possessed me. =/
Ah well I'm sure all my enemies really deserve it anyway. ;p
I think this is generally how extroverts view introverts. "you are more powerful and effective being quiet" because everybody who's told me this before has been an extrovert. Other introverts pretty much go 'waah im so shy and emo'
Huh?
FUCK EMOS.
Seriously, I wouldn't want to be like that. They're so pathetic.
I think you're right there. But I did it without realising that I'm not. It was like a delusion of grandeur. I actually believe(d) I was. It's actually not my style at all; it's not what I'm comfortable with. I'm most comfortable when I'm learning and improving myself.
Haha, you're doing the dark lord persona thing so many of your (perceived - the romantics - am I correct?) subculture like to entertain.
To a certain extent, I like to be submissive, and I often do it with women, because it's a big turn on. I'spose it's all part of the thrill of the chase - you know exactly what shit they're pulling with you, but you love it anyway.
True. I've been contemplating this kind of thing before. You know, you've got your big, powerful people at the top, like Tony Blair, George Bush etc... but are they powerful? No, of course not. They're seen as the most powerful men on Earth, but fuck that. There are people not even HEARD OF in the media who have total control over the Bush admin, and over the UK government. This is the kind of power that wise people aspire to.Why? Being seen as powerful is dangerous. It's better to be powerful and nobody notices, so that you can attack and devour with the enemy surprised.
You're right about George Bush. He's a dumb anti-gay cunt that isn't powerful at all. Blah. Why the hell is he President though? I guess the masses are just weak and don't know better so they vote for somebody who is weak.
It's because they need some dumb fucker who is stupid enough to take all the shit people hurl at him when they make a decision. He's a puppet in the limelight. He didn't go to Iraq. His daddy did.
The voters?
No, voters don't have power. Not true power anyway. No, those guys in backroom politics. You ever seen The Thick Of It? It's like that Scottish guy on that:The voters?
haha that guy looks like he has a spiky dildo in his ass.
Ezra, seriously, you should shut up.
Why?
Reading about goverment consiracy theories makes me ill.Why?
You're one of them, aren't you?
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I pity your souls
I think you might actually be the same type as heath - ESTj. I keep hoping that you're ISTj, but I ain't seeing it. Your "Fe moments" are short and rare, your opinions are strong and stubborn. There are not many types you could be and I would say you're most likely ESTj. We have talked quite a while and you haven't provoked me at all. When I suggested this thread, you disagreed with it at first, but then you agreed to make it. I thought you had a clear opinion and that I cleverly changed your mind with Fe-giddyness and Ni-reasoning (what will happen - good/bad case scenario). I thought it increased the odds that we are duals but now I realize that you just folded without a fight. This is possibly the only situation where we had any "competition" of any kind.
The ISTj at the lab is usually very sweet and friendly, but when something goes wrong, he defines it as being someone's fault. "oh, I changed the temperature, oh, I shouldn't have. Now I ruined your experiment." or "You didn't notice that switch so now the experiment will fail. You just have to repeat it some other day. That's one day wasted. But it's ok." as if saying that it is my fault, but I shouldn't feel too bad about it. There is the constant comparing of who does their job flawlessly. And the ISTj that I talk with on the messenger - she keeps taunting me, we playfully argue who's the bigger baby, we tease each other about how often we say thing, about out choice of proffession "oh, you think you can get away with not knowing that plant, eh, biologist?and strong
. And no matter how introverted you behave, I think your misunderstandings with extroverts have come from you and the extrovert steering into different directions and trying to pull the other person with you. You may not need to be surrounded by people (classic extroversion) or even talk much, because you just don't think that other people can help you achieve what you want to achieve and you avoid wasting time talking to them. You find better ways to achieve what you want. Something more proper for a
type.
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
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I'd hope not.
No.- ESTj.
I don't understand; are these supposed to be criticisms? Because it almost sounds like you're complimenting me.I keep hoping that you're ISTj, but I ain't seeing it. Your "Fe moments" are short and rare, your opinions are strong and stubborn. There are not many types you could be and I would say you're most likely ESTj. We have talked quite a while and you haven't provoked me at all. When I suggested this thread, you disagreed with it at first, but then you agreed to make it. I thought you had a clear opinion and that I cleverly changed your mind with Fe-giddyness and Ni-reasoning (what will happen - good/bad case scenario). I thought it increased the odds that we are duals but now I realize that you just folded without a fight. This is possibly the only situation where we had any "competition" of any kind.
Well, yeah, it's just an internet forum.There's none of that stuff with you, Rocky, although you do have a strong
I think you like other people on this forum misunderstand when I say I have problems with extraverts. It's not that I''m trying to pull people with me. It's the opposite. I like how other introverts are on the same low-keyed wavelength. It's easier for me to talk to them. It's hard to explain. But we have a comfort level. I'm certainly an introvert.And no matter how introverted you behave, I think your misunderstandings with extroverts have come from you and the extrovert steering into different directions and trying to pull the other person with you. You may not need to be surrounded by people (classic extroversion) or even talk much, because you just don't think that other people can help you achieve what you want to achieve and you avoid wasting time talking to them. You find better ways to achieve what you want. Something more proper for a
Then I think you haven't really found the comfort type yet. Socionisists say that people are born with their type and that type behavior is the most natural behavior. I think sometimes (most of the times) people try out different behaviors until they settle on one. I don't think you have settled yet. I honestly see you as a very probable ESTj because of your first reactions to things. Me and Heath have definitely had more quarreling than me and you, but you have the same kind of distant but judgemental attitude as he does.
The only problem with ESTj typing is that ESTjs tend to be extremely active extroverts, but it's often said that people shouldn't take such trends as rules. I also seem quite calm and introverted - people who have met me have typed me ISFp, INFp, ISTj, ENTj. The ENTj typing was done by physical VI only - they didn't understand what I was saying, but they compared me to pictures of different types.
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
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It isn't a conspiracy. I don't do conspiracies. They're unfounded theories that are a complete waste of time.Reading about goverment consiracy theories makes me ill.Why?
Bush is controlled by his father, and those part of the Bush admin. In theory he has complete authority - in reality, no president ever does. Their predecessors are always hold the reigns of power.
Do you even care about your typing?
If I was to guess, I'd say SLI.
I didn't care for Kristiina's post.Do you even care about your typing?
If I was to guess, I'd say SLI.
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