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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    The VI difference between ESI and SEI:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BlY3w06HuQy/

    SEI in cool, complex colors, ESI in two colors and red jacket.
    What if you’re acquaintances from a nudist resort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    What if you’re acquaintances from a nudist resort?
    The true differences are in the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    ESI's seem to think that you feel as they feel. That is the universal fallacy of Fi base. It seems like short circuiting itself.
    This, sadly, applies to logical constructs as well. It just hides behind a veneer of external stability that some people have trouble seeing past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    The true differences are in the eyes.
    SEIs' eyes are soft; ESIs' are more focused?
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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    This, sadly, applies to logical constructs as well. It just hides behind a veneer of external stability that some people have trouble seeing past.
    It can be seen that Ti bases might totally ignore external relations and build things upon their own beliefs and Te just does things mindlessly like in worst case scenario it seems like there exists no second law in thermodynamics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    It can be seen that Ti bases might totally ignore external relations and build things upon their own beliefs and Te just does things mindlessly like in worst case scenario it seems like there exists no second law in thermodynamics.
    Yes. That ''second law'' is a principle that points to something Socionics itself (and most systems of thought which aren't processual in nature) does not dare to consider.
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    Imo and ime some of the most wasteful people i've seen have been ESI, whereas SEI seem more frugal. But please don't take this literally in the sense that ESI wastes something measurable, such as money. What ESI does waste, instead, is perfectly good initiative and enterprise. I suppose they are so geared towards LIEs being so nondiscriminating and omnivorous in their activity that they ('they' here being the ESIs) will rebuff most enterprise or even enterprise ideas to do with any financial gain. They will direct their criticism at people they are close to, could be friends, family etc.

    SEI otoh are inspired by some version of initiative and ideas, of course they are looking for the Ne version of it not the TE nor NI, but they are quite appreciative of it, will want this sort of activity to flourish.

    I'm sure i'm not explaining this very well.../ 2 cents
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