Proper English requires the verb form "are" to be used here, rather than "is".Originally Posted by Khamelion
Proper English requires the verb form "are" to be used here, rather than "is".
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
Unless she was asking for the location of the word "you," in which case she should have used quotation marks.
They are all around you. Duals are those we tend to overlook until and unless somehow circumstances throw us into prolonged contact. People tend to forget this. They are in Church, in school, in business, among pizza delivery guys, everywhere.
A trick that kind of worked for me in picking out duals was to tally up acquaintances based on photos from Facebook and other places and consciously pick out those I had a natural tendency to overlook. Those who were kind of part of a gray background.
After a while I could suddenly see whole clusters of same-quadra people and relationships, including duals.
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
Formal English does, yes. However, I'm sure there was a point she was trying to make that could be best communicated using informal English.
Perhaps it was to trap Grammar Nazi ILIs.
I think she's just attempting to be cute with the improper grammar.
It makes sense for an SEE.
And you can find ILI's best in the role of master pimp. We have a lot of ladies so I hope you have a good resume and qualifications for such a prestigious position.
I suggest you give up on your coping mechanism / fantasy of a world where someone loves you.
Unless my theory wins; she wasn't attempting formal English and there only error is attempting to analyze her text out of its context.Unless she was asking for the location of You, as in "You" being the proper name of someone, in which case she ought to have used a capital "Y"...
But it does seem to be a good way to meet people.
I'm sure there's some way that this is Ni-dual seeking.
do you use msn?
Last edited by Jarno; 03-20-2010 at 12:51 PM.
agree in theory.
how could an SEE possibly fade into a gray background, though? they're like the easiest type to spot in the entire socion!
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those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
is it more Ni-dual seeking than any other sort of general dual seeking?
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Grammar is related more tothan to
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lol
ILIs are EVERYWHERE! And if they are interested in you, they are also easy to spot. They're those people that make an xEE feel they are being asked to give a big consoling hug.ILI
I don't mean it to make it sound like a dating advert....I just don't know any REAL LIFE ILI's and...I don't know, perhaps I need to talk to an e-ILI.
Where is you?
Yes, spotting you dual is not an easy thing
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
I don't know where the are, but VI can help. I'm not great at VI, but i've became reasonably good at VI'ing ENFp's, although combining with some other real life facets that are still reasonably quick at identifying.ILI
I don't mean it to make it sound like a dating advert....I just don't know any REAL LIFE ILI's and...I don't know, perhaps I need to talk to an e-ILI.
Where is you?
However the problem can be in different life attitudes and such. The biggest hurdle is the start, which afaicr is mentioned in the duality descriptions, duals are quite different from each other, and the initial contact can make or break it.
You've probably spoke to loads and not realised it (unless you are a recluse, which I don't think you are).
Maybe example:
IEE barman, he's complaining about how he's been asked to work more - I can see where he's going wrong by watching him (Te efficiency).
I say something to some other people which to him might seem a bit rude (weak Fe on my part).
So, OK this is opposite sex, but two people see something the other could do better or that they would do differently.
It's when the duals get closer that they can communicate the information to each other effectively, and also come to understand the differences between the two also.
The opposite example is conflictor - we can't communicate our information in a way which is helpful so the little things become big things, instead of the differences smoothing over to mutual growth and understanding.
All this has to happen through more interaction, so to facilitate that it can be things in common, or simply a mutual sexual attraction (although it don't apply to you, you're hot enough and seem well dressed) - it falls back on simple things for everyone, make sure you look good and have something about you which is interesting/desirable/attractive. Like hobbies to talk about, qualifications to have, decent enough job, have own place, some life experience, etc.
Maybe work on your VI skills and also think of the ILI's you've known (whether IRL or internet) and try to extrapolate that but keeping in mind people still have own personalities too.
Good luck, and thanks for sticking the finger up at me! (it's not in me, you see).
I can get a long with ILIs great...But they don't give me emotional satisfaction... but still they are better than SLIs....
Sincerely Yours,
Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.
The Rebel without a cause.
thanks for everyone's input. perhaps i should just go to school. bound to be tons there right?
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I think this is a joke, incase not, you realise they do stuff after school? (yes, their life expectancy is same as other types in their culture afaik).
Well, they're actually better at working (Te) than studying forever, ime.
say what?
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
My dear, what you are looking for is an I-N-F-p. These are found littering the streets of New York (and other cities, I'm sure), wandering about with their guitars on their back, disheveled hair, and a vague air of poetry around their being. They are sensitive souls, though they can at first seem prickly and bristly. More likely, they will appear first unfailingly kind, polite, and, well, rather fake. But it will be an endearing fakeness, and it will not take you long to discover the fiery beating heart beneath the spacey exterior. No, it may take a day, a week, a month, even a year, but soon the two of you will be sailing over the clouds, slaying dragons and taking over the city.
NOTE: this is not a serious comment on your type, as I don't know you well enough to make a serious comment on your type. Just a joke.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
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i'm 22
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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you must have had one classy, sexy grandma
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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This thread isn't really anything to do with dual, if it was you'd address the actual points raised.
It's just attention maybe even boredom-attention seeking.
if you were satisfied then you would be complete. and once you've reached the end, then you may as well die.
i think in a way that dual relationships aren't as "intense" as other relationships in a way. and so they don't feel "complete" as quickly.. and just continue to progress along at a kind of slow but easy pace.
unless you've both had dual experiences and know how to jump ahead.
Such an irony of life!
I just saw your post today. But the day you posted it I met an INFp guy who was exactly like your written parts I bolded.
I don't even remember how it happened that we end up chatting WHOLE night.
Sincerely Yours,
Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.
The Rebel without a cause.
I'm right here; if you ever need an ILI just follow your
i thought you's was a LSI O_oI'm right here; if you ever need an ILI just follow your
but then again i don't come here enough to keep up with everyone's type changes. oi.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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yeah...my mistake
We need to hook up Khamelion and niffweed.
and then they explode ....
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
SEEs are mostly a whirlwind in the water, picking up a snail or crab (ILI) in its wake. If you use Fe (confront it with party, playfulness, or open expression) it will hide in its shell because it takes it personally, and wants to think and reflect with Fi, but the whirlwind is the only deliverer to take it to new places, and it can have a home inside its shell. It doesn't have to worry about settling. ILIs are basically kind of lazy thinkers, who need that essential stimulation, and might not be able to get it from most people, and might not be inclined to think much of a world of action and those with the willpower to act, but the SEE does not feel and interpret, and expect recognition for it's natural ability to act and change things, without thinking of structure or pattern. Its temperament revitalizes the ILI and gives it what its always saught inside, an aura of confidence in strength and physical capacity. Se dominance at its best, so strongly and readily does everything but let itself be halted. It can find itself getting into trouble because of this, and needs guidance from someone who looks at things slowly and steadily, in a longer timeframe. Unlike the LII, the ILI can feel secure in the chaos and not press judgment, it can imagine and decifer the underlying trend of the action with Ni, and it can feel a deep personal unfleeting connection with the SEE through Fi, so that there is little worry in rational judgment. That's mainly how duality is, see. You seek out your 5th function, and you don't have any need to have your dominant function praised, because it is so automatic, but your dual praises it anyway, especially with their dominant function. The whole thing is so automatic, there is little "guessing" involved in the basic foundation of it. And the difference between Fe valuing and Fi valuing is that Fe types will judge someone based on shared ethics of action and expression, how things should go, making it positively or properly excepted emotively, having the correct humor so that other people feel attraction to the conversation, interaction, etc, where as an Fi judgment is based on a having a personal connection, of knowing that person, and liking that person for who he/she is, and not having this external expectation of how things flow in objective likeablity or expression, whatever you want to call it.
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