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    Who cares, its her life, if she wants to waste it by being taken advantage of, so be it. You guys aren't going to convince her of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Also, you're not really doing yourself any favours by getting with a tosser.
    rofl

    That made me laugh for some reason. hahaha

    Getting with a tosser. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Who cares, its her life, if she wants to waste it by being taken advantage of, so be it. You guys aren't going to convince her of anything.
    Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IEI View Post
    Yeah so may as well come clean.... I made up with my dual.

    He's got me twisted round his bloody finger and I'm off doing stuff for him again

    There is no escaping
    Being used is worse than being alone; living only for yourself is better than living only for someone else.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Fuck off.
    Yea forreal. Everyone gets themselves into shit they cant get out of alone once in a while; she shouldn't be cast into the abyss just because she needs a springboard to get over it.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    You've had a bad break-up? Sorry you're going through that.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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    You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    Are you actually going to take that to heart, or are you going to disregard it? The person you described sounds horrible, regardless of what type he is. Removing yourself from his presence may be the best option for you.


    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    if you hate them so much, then why not just cut them off?
    They appear out of no-where lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Who cares, its her life, if she wants to waste it by being taken advantage of, so be it. You guys aren't going to convince her of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    rofl

    That made me laugh for some reason. hahaha

    Getting with a tosser. lmao
    Yeah me too. Not really the best plan is it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Fuck off.
    Thank you!


    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Yea forreal. Everyone gets themselves into shit they cant get out of alone once in a while; she shouldn't be cast into the abyss just because she needs a springboard to get over it.
    +1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    You've had a bad break-up? Sorry you're going through that.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Who cares, its her life, if she wants to waste it by being taken advantage of, so be it. You guys aren't going to convince her of anything.
    Yeah. She's not taking this seriously, which indicates a lack of self-respect. Humoring her with this merrymaking camaraderie is a detriment that will make the problem seem less serious than it is, allowing her to carry on following the seductive sound of her siren boyfriend.

    IEI: Break up with your asshole boyfriend, stop letting him lure you away from any facet of self-respect, and find someone who will actually enhance your life instead of emotionally leech off of you. If you care for your happiness in any capacity, you will immediate leave him and be wary of others like him for as long as you live. This is the only good advice you'll receive here; the truth won't humor you with pleasantries. Either live your life or waste it. Up to you.

    There's no gray area here. Just a choice between being happy and being miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Yeah. She's not taking this seriously, which indicates a lack of self-respect. Humoring her with this merrymaking camaraderie is a detriment that will make the problem seem less serious than it is, allowing her to carry on following the seductive sound of her siren boyfriend.

    IEI: Break up with your asshole boyfriend, stop letting him lure you away from any facet of self-respect, and find someone who will actually enhance your life instead of emotionally leech off of you. If you care for your happiness in any capacity, you will immediate leave him and be wary of others like him for as long as you live. This is the only good advice you'll receive here; the truth won't humor you with pleasantries. Either live your life or waste it. Up to you.

    There's no gray area here. Just a choice between being happy and being miserable.
    ...and then discojoe told it like it was. And that was the end of that story.
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    lol

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    Aye, good advice from DJ.
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    "Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Unwilling to stop harassing you unless you give them positive emotional feedback instead of mad Fi-sounding feedback. They'll go "HUURRR HURRRR NOPE" until you stop saying "Fuck off!" and start going "Tee hee ur funny and we're buddies and take that broom my butt says hi."
    Shit.. I do this occassionally. Probably more when younger. Not for Fi PolR-ish reasons exactly, but..

    Wouldn't all Fe valuers do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aixelsyd View Post
    Life's too short for assholes and emotionally immature and stunted dipshits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stray View Post
    Shit.. I do this occassionally. Probably more when younger. Not for Fi PolR-ish reasons exactly, but..

    Wouldn't all Fe valuers do this?
    Maybe, but SLEs take it too far.

    SLE >>>> EIE > IEI > LSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Maybe, but SLEs take it too far.

    SLE >>>> EIE > IEI > LSI
    yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Just because you've had a bad experience with one SLE doesn't mean they're all the same. Believe it or not, SLE's can & do fall in love, and they certainly care about the feelings of the ones they adore. Yes, I have noticed that If they don't care about you they'll usually have little to no empathy. SLE's are quite simple & they don't like to lead cluttered lives. They're not sentimental creatures by any means, and if they feel like you're a negative influence, offer nothing & drag them down then they'll drop you with little remorse; but honestly, if you think about it, that's not a bad quality at all.

    Remember, there are assholes of every type. SLE's are just more in your face about it. They don't sugarcoat anything (unless it's business related), and if you can't handle that then you're not going to get along with them, period. I actually love their straightforward, honest & blunt approach to life; It's admirable & I often use it to my advantage.
    Sometimes I wonder, if when you died and ended up at the gates of St. Peter and god ended up saying to you.... "hey you know, all that socionics business and duality was bullshit"

    If you'd somehow feel duped about all the focus you put into trying to build relationships with SLEs and defend them.

    I hate to burst your little bubble, but I'm sort of skeptical when I hear you say things whether you really mean/believe them or you are just trying to make lemonade out of lemons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Being used is worse than being alone; living only for yourself is better than living only for someone else.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Agreed
    Agreed too, what Gilly said, 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Levels of amazingness:

    SLE > IEI >>>>>>>>>> EIE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LSI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
    Totally agree.

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    *shrugs* I don't know about the rest of those SLEs out there, but i know I am an evil mother fucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Totally agree.

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    They have trees in Europe? I thought the whole country was the block around big ben...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    *shrugs* I don't know about the rest of those SLEs out there, but i know I am an evil mother fucker.
    Shit no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    They have trees in Europe? I thought the whole country was the block around big ben...
    Sadly it's been replaced by:



    Life isn't so bad though I guess. They now shoot bums as soon as they get kicked out of the house. They also offer free guns to every child under ten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Life isn't so bad though I guess. They now shoot bums as soon as they get kicked out of the house. They also offer free guns to every child under ten.
    FREE GUNS?! I'm coming to visit.

    On a less de-railing topic.

    I actually am kinda evil when I've been wronged. Truthfully it's really terrible what I'll do to people if left to my own devices. Thankfully i have a very strong friend group who holds me back and keeps me from becoming an evil power mongering destructive force that no one likes.

    Now when I'm healthy and life is going right? I manipulated my current GF into doing something harmless two months ago, that she didn't want to do, and I still feel guilty about it. We've been dating for six now and that was the first time and the last I'll pull that trick.

    Granted if you want to make me out to be a bad guy the only reason i wont do it again is because it makes me feel guilty but that's stopping a bit short cause i wouldn't feel guilty if i didn't love her. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    It's ok if your jealous, HLD.
    lol I'm not jealous. We don't get along personality wise and there's nothing particular special about you to me, although your attractive, which there are tons of women I find attractive.

    All I'm saying is it seems like your always reinforcing the idea of SLE = dual = good for me. And that seems like a lot to invest if socionics turned out to be bullshit. That doesn't have to ruin your current relationship though or anything, I'm just saying you seem to have a lot invested in socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I still feel guilty about it.
    Then you're not a psychopath, nor a bad person. Don't worry.

    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    All I'm saying is it seems like your always reinforcing the idea of SLE = dual = good for me. And that seems like a lot to invest if socionics turned out to be bullshit. That doesn't have to ruin your current relationship though or anything, I'm just saying you seem to have a lot invested in socionics.
    If you were experiencing what she is, you'd want to spread the word.

    "if socionics turned out to be bullshit": a silly statement. Either believe in it and use it, or don't and forget about it. Don't half-arsedly think it's good or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If you were experiencing what she is, you'd want to spread the word.
    That's fine, I don't care if her relationship is going good.

    It's the socionics aspect I question, ala, its going good because of socionics, and not just because of something more basic and natural. Tbh everytime I read her posts on SLEs it could basically be boiled down to "SLEs are good for me!" like some kind of 5th grader presenting a report on the food pyramid and why its important to eat your vegetables everyday. Be sure to get 5 full servings of your dual in a day, and that will keep you satisfied in life. Etc... it just seems a little laughable and bullshitty to me.

    Now if she wants to share the positives of her relationship, I'm indifferent to that, but the socionics aspect of it, seems bullshitty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    "if socionics turned out to be bullshit": a silly statement. Either believe in it and use it, or don't and forget about it. Don't half-arsedly think it's good or bad.
    Yea see you make it sound like a religion when in fact its actually probably closer to social science.

    Also its hard to simply accept or reject something entirely for thinking people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    It's the socionics aspect I question, ala, its going good because of socionics, and not just because of something more basic and natural..
    Fair enough. I'm with you there. Good duality > good non-duality > duality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Then you're not a psychopath, nor a bad person. Don't worry.



    If you were experiencing what she is, you'd want to spread the word.

    "if socionics turned out to be bullshit": a silly statement. Either believe in it and use it, or don't and forget about it. Don't half-arsedly think it's good or bad.
    The problem is practicing it is a pain in the ass. The best test, Hugo's, can no longer be found. Most fuckers no longer have the attention span for the longer ones. You may say those people are a waste of time, and I would agree, but in America people live to work, not work to live and ignore socionics. It is also full of dumbasses and there are still large stigmas about getting onto dating sites let alone asking whats your socionics type? See tcaud and the dbags who make fun of him for details. Also see what you mentionied about boiling down to DUALITY, which is overblown because real discussion does happen, but their is a lot of crap discussion.
    Are there any friend type sites for intellectual discussion?
    Facebook doesn't count because its only people you already know, which is useless. Facebook and linkedin are extensions of the US live to work mantra, and its who you know and blow. This forum is far to small, and other forums are not very open to discussion on things other than the prescribed topics. SNOOZE.

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    Too much hate on my poor duals. Well to compensate i had some of my love thrown on a pretty sle few days ago. Damn those wild evil beasts just do get laid !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Fair enough. I'm with you there. Good duality > good non-duality > duality.
    Yea I was thinking more in terms of....

    A good non dual relationship is better any day than a shitty dual relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Not really. To be honest I never thought too much of the whole duality concept until I found myself in a relationship with one (which I didn't care about before, or think would ever happen). It's pretty awesome to see the dynamics of this kind of partnership at work if you've never experienced it before. Sure, you could say i'm being biased; despite that I've still grown & improved as a person from this relationship. Life is a lot easier & people have definitely noticed a change. Apparently I come off more rounded, fulfilled & confident to others. It's almost as if an ingredient or missing pice has been added. Who knows, maybe it is all bullshit & some kind of placebo affect is taking place, or perhaps it has little to do with Socionics. I don't really care. :]
    EIEs make me worse. The great majority of the time, it feels like I do more for them than they do for me. And the super insane ones--the ones who might actually be able to dualize with me, or whatever--are people with whom I should not be in a relationship.

    So the boring ones just leech off me, devouring the continuous flow of intellectual stimulation I provide, while the ones I'd consider peers are basically lost causes who I'd feel needed to be on suicide watch 24/7.

    Does your boyfriend pay for all your shit? Basically take care of you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Nope. He would never take care of me financially, ever. He try's to spoil me of course, but I usually refuse... though he's pretty persistent. Most boyfriends do that kind of thing, though. I spoil him just as much.
    That's good, because you seem sort of like a handicapped fairy or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    That's good, because you seem sort of like a handicapped fairy or something.
    Lmao, sorry starfall but that was funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Stop taking everything so seriously
    Meh different strokes for different folks, etc....

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