ILI-EIE Supervision relations (INTp and ENFj)

[sarinana]

There's no such thing as too old for video games, first of all.

Also, I will use the busy excuse with people when I don't want to hang around them. Could be that he didn't really feel happy with the relationship. What you did could have been a God-send. ILIs suck at breaking things off. Or maybe I'm just projecting my own personal qualities onto a type.

NO at first he wasn't happy with his life because his ex he really loved showed up in his life again after a year of not seeing each other period. So he started messing up with our relationship and he lost. But that's the story of just the one INTp I have dated.

[Jarno]

INTP's can differ I guess.

Some that I've met are indeed really annoying, but I'm quite certain there are great INTP's, funny witty kind and loyal. My experiences with duals were mostly great. But still, I can understand that some INTP's are really boring / arrogant / depressed / nerds etc. I don't like those kind of people either. Nobody does I guess. But there are also INTP's that party every weekend, drink beer, like house music, and are into everything as long as it is fun, yet they do ofcourse read science/philosophy books and play computer games a lot.

[Shazaam]

But there are also INTP's that party every weekend, drink beer, like house music, and are into everything as long as it is fun

Either extreme is probably annoying. I don't really like jock-ish partygoes either if they're too focused on their external environment. They're hot though, so I'd probably just use them for sex and go on. Partying is fun though. It's really not that hard to have a good time as long as you put some effort and get drunk a lil.

yet they do ofcourse read science/philosophy books and play computer games a lot.

Most philosophy books make me feel too guilty/jaded, and way too introverted. I already have a hard enough time opening myself up to people to make things worse. It would be cool if I could find some people to talk with about them, but that's just bound to start a debate. Science books are cool though.

[Warlord]

it depends on what drug you are

That's what I'm talking about. Someone who drinks and/or does drugs, can't really critize someone for doing something that's relatively harmless.

[Warlord]

she likes his soft depressive qualities.

Soft qualities?

I'm like stark iron

Except for my hair, and kissable lips, RIGHT MERKY

[Khamelion]

Soft qualities?

I'm like stark iron

Except for my hair, and kissable lips, RIGHT MERKY

WHAT IS WITH YOUR CREEPY AVATARS?!?

The girl was the worst one...............

[Warlord]

WHAT IS WITH YOUR CREEPY AVATARS?!?

The girl was the worst one...............

heheh

I'm trying to appear more humane by having children in my avatar, because children are supposedly cute.

No, actually I found a site with those creepy kids from old adds, now I have just methodologically gone through them. I guess I'll change when I find something new to put on avatar. The joke might be getting old.

[Khamelion]

heheh

I'm trying to appear more humane by having children in my avatar, because children are supposedly cute.

No, actually I found a site with those creepy kids from old adds, now I have just methodologically gone through them. I guess I'll change when I find something new to put on avatar. The joke might be getting old.

rofl not yet hahahah


but they're still creepyyyyyyyyyyy

[calenwen]

Yeah he was lazy but he always had this answer "I have to do some work" when I wanted to take him out.

My boyfriend always says this when I begin to hint at getting out of the apartment. Hm....

[Jarno]

I may have an explanation for this behaviour.

I'm lazy most of the time. Just being idle, doing nothing. While I know that I have stuff to do, but I just try not to think about it to much.

When someone asks me to go do something, then I start thinking... well first I still have stuff to do, so I can't go with you do something else right now. And then, I fall back into idle mode again and try not to think about the stuff that needs to be done...

So to summarize, he's not lying that he has got work to do, but he is just delaying it constantly, which makes it look like he has nothing to do.

[redbaron]

My boyfriend always says this when I begin to hint at getting out of the apartment. Hm....

calenwen, you're ISFj? Interesting! is your boyfriend still INFp?

[redbaron]

I may have an explanation for this behaviour.

I'm lazy most of the time. Just being idle, doing nothing. While I know that I have stuff to do, but I just try not to think about it to much.

When someone asks me to go do something, then I start thinking... well first I still have stuff to do, so I can't go with you do something else right now. And then, I fall back into idle mode again and try not to think about the stuff that needs to be done...

So to summarize, he's not lying that he has got work to do, but he is just delaying it constantly, which makes it look like he has nothing to do.

sounds like me.

[inumbra]

Eventually it all can pile up around the edges, and start collapsing in on your head... it's happened to me, when I couldn't stop delaying... it's like being pushed out of time, and feeling behind on ones life. Because in the back of my mind I'm always aware of "the pile up" and that it is growing and expanding and reaching "critical points" where it will cave in... and I'm also aware of how I can still deal with it, even though it's harder, as it all piles up. Because there isn't really a point of no return with it ever, just a pushing things back farther into the future, until you realize that these things are hitting up against the end of your life, and they're all being crammed into "the final years", and *that* is when they start going backwards and falling back on top of you (only so much can fit at the end). Then you go insane and land in a mental institution. Which since one (I mean me) doesn't want such a fate, where then these things would be taken out of my hands entirely (because I've become "incapable"), I should start addressing more things now. Being incapable is no fun (but a stagnant hell on earth), and though it may in some ways appear the easier road, it is actually the harder road as it affords an even longer "out of time" delay, wasting more time. And then I feel content having reached this conclusion, and it can wait really. There's no need to attend to it this moment. There are still enough laters, just something to keep in mind. Until I become aware of the diminishing laters again... I think I'm almost ready to have a cleaner slate again, because my awareness of the diminishing moments has been reaching an ear-shattering scream over the last few years.

[redbaron]

Eventually it all can pile up around the edges, and start collapsing in on your head... it's happened to me, when I couldn't stop delaying... it's like being pushed out of time, and feeling behind on ones life. Because in the back of my mind I'm always aware of "the pile up" and that it is growing and expanding and reaching "critical points" where it will cave in... and I'm also aware of how I can still deal with it, even though it's harder, as it all piles up. Because there isn't really a point of no return with it ever, just a pushing things back farther into the future, until you realize that these things are hitting up against the end of your life, and they're all being crammed into "the final years", and *that* is when they start going backwards and falling back on top of you (only so much can fit at the end). Then you go insane and land in a mental institution. Which since one (I mean me) doesn't want such a fate, where then these things would be taken out of my hands entirely (because I've become "incapable"), I should start addressing more things now. Being incapable is no fun (but a stagnant hell on earth), and though it may in some ways appear the easier road, it is actually the harder road as it affords an even longer "out of time" delay, wasting more time. And then I feel content having reached this conclusion, and it can wait really. There's no need to attend to it this moment. There are still enough laters, just something to keep in mind. Until I become aware of the diminishing laters again... I think I'm almost ready to have a cleaner slate again, because my awareness of the diminishing moments has been reaching an ear-shattering scream over the last few years.

oh loki, loki, this is so well articulated. I think this is precisely the fear that I was trying to articulate in another thread. the fear that I've pushed things back too far and reached the end.

[inumbra]

oh loki, loki, this is so well articulated. I think this is precisely the fear that I was trying to articulate in another thread. the fear that I've pushed things back too far and reached the end.

I relate... I kind of wonder if I'll always feel this way about something...

[crazedrat]

I can never imagine myself writing poetry for my girlfriend, ever. It would seem way too emo, cliche, and wimpy. It would make me feel retarded reading it. Every single word would feel retarded. I couldn't do it. He isn't INTp

[redbaron]

I can never imagine myself writing poetry for my girlfriend, ever. It would seem way too emo, cliche, and wimpy. It would make me feel retarded reading it. Every single word would feel retarded. I couldn't do it. He isn't INTp

well the INTp I know doesn't write poetry for or about his wife! he writes it about other stuff. It's not emo nor is it cliche.

[crazedrat]

That makes more sense, but I suspect he would only show it to you if it expressed an underlying tendency he has thought he has realized about poetry; or if it was in a class of what, for a moment, he might consider an ideal example of a poem at the time. This is closer to an intellectual game he is playing with poetry, then an emotional expression. At least that's how I imagine myself doing it. One thing you will not see happen, is a heart to heart poem reading

[redbaron]

That makes more sense, but I suspect he would only show it to you if it expressed an underlying tendency he has thought he has realized about poetry; or if it was in a class of what, for a moment, he might consider an ideal example of a poem at the time. This is closer to an intellectual game he is playing with poetry, then an emotional expression. At least that's how I imagine myself doing it. One thing you will not see happen, is a heart to heart poem reading

right. he takes it very seriously. he studied it in grad school and has been published. I've attended a poetry reading of his and it was delivered in a dry manner (but befitting of him and the content, letting the words speak for themselves). It's very much an intellectual thing for him, yes.

[crazedrat]

My english teacher in college was kind of like that. He was INTp-Ni, and was an authority on the critical analysis many of shakespearian plays. But he explained the whole thing in a technical, intricate way. When I try to write music, I do the same thing. I just cannot let myself trust my heart. And the more coherent understanding of art eludes me, the more inspired I become to pursue it. Music is one of the last real mysteries out there which grab my interest. I think quite a few INTps get sucked into this kind of thing

[redbaron]

My english teacher in college was kind of like that. He was INTp-Ni, and was an authority on the critical analysis many of shakespearian plays. But he explained the whole thing in a technical, intricate way. When I try to write music, I do the same thing. I just cannot let myself trust my heart. And the more coherent understanding of art eludes me, the more inspired I become to pursue it. Music is one of the last real mysteries out there which grab my interest. I think quite a few INTps get sucked into this kind of thing

Yes, I actually preferred teachers like that, who could show me the more technical aspects of literature and stay away from the emotional (which I can easily get on my own).

[717495]

I see this attempt as rather disappointing, because I can see how an SEE would see me as boring or dull (but I've always had an unspoken deep bond with them.) If you guys are exciting, and we're dull, then who wins?

Sorry to dig in your past, but maybe he needed more attention. You maybe need to jump on him and push him into walls, brutalize him with your heels. He may have not been feeling in the right mindset because you did not give him any pain to fight off. It could be a number of things, but you have to try to outsmart him, and make him not see whats coming. Don't fart in his face though, that's a turn off on the first date.

Also, just for the record, if you or any other date wanted to take me out, I could not see myself not going. I've been trying to get other people I've attempted to date to go out, especially when we have already made plans, and it can be a hassle and not happen. This is really the only reason I see myself for taking responsibility, so we can have some fun.

[sarinana]

I see this attempt as rather disappointing, because I can see how an SEE would see me as boring or dull (but I've always had an unspoken deep bond with them.) If you guys are exciting, and we're dull, then who wins?

Sorry to dig in your past, but maybe he needed more attention. You maybe need to jump on him and push him into walls, brutalize him with your heels. He may have not been feeling in the right mindset because you did not give him any pain to fight off. It could be a number of things, but you have to try to outsmart him, and make him not see whats coming. Don't fart in his face though, that's a turn off on the first date.

Also, just for the record, if you or any other date wanted to take me out, I could not see myself not going. I've been trying to get other people I've attempted to date to go out, especially when we have already made plans, and it can be a hassle and not happen. This is really the only reason I see myself for taking responsibility, so we can have some fun.

I am sorry..but that guy turned out to be IEI. heh...

my best friend is ILI she is very interesting girl... not boring or dull definately! :wink: tho sometimes I hate how she is sleeping or reading books 3/4 her life.

[717495]

I am sorry..but that guy turned out to be IEI. heh...

my best friend is ILI she is very interesting girl... not boring or dull definately! :wink: tho sometimes I hate how she is sleeping or reading books 3/4 her life.

Hah, yeah. That's good that you found one you like. It's hard to keep SEE in the cage, but its equally hard to open ILI eyes in the morning. What things do you guys do together?

[Mea]

I am sorry..but that guy turned out to be IEI. heh...

my best friend is ILI she is very interesting girl... not boring or dull definately! :wink: tho sometimes I hate how she is sleeping or reading books 3/4 her life.

i really do not understand what it is that SEEs see in ILIs, really.

my best friend is SEE too. we go out, someone thinks i'm being weird, and she doesn't think that way at all.

seriously, SEEs are

though initial contact with SEEs are hard, it seems hard for an SEE to be interested in ILIs.

[DirectorAbbie]

THEN DO SOME WORK!!! STOP PROCRASTINATING !!!

If you were an INTp, you would be procrastinating.

[sarinana]

Hah, yeah. That's good that you found one you like. It's hard to keep SEE in the cage, but its equally hard to open ILI eyes in the morning. What things do you guys do together?

We have some classes together...On weekends we usually go to some metal concert.. Or sometimes we make food together... she is a coffee addict...so naturally she started liking me only after I showed her my coffee making skills. She is not fast when it comes to liking anybody..

I got her interested in socionics...and now the easiest way to wake her up is to tell her "I found a nice ESFp boy for ya!"

[sarinana]

i really do not understand what it is that SEEs see in ILIs, really.

my best friend is SEE too. we go out, someone thinks i'm being weird, and she doesn't think that way at all.

seriously, SEEs are

though initial contact with SEEs are hard, it seems hard for an SEE to be interested in ILIs.

I am fast to be interested in those ILIs, who are fast to show their weirdness in the most demonstrable way.

[Jarno]

though initial contact with SEEs are hard, it seems hard for an SEE to be interested in ILIs.

yeah, most SEE women hate nerds.

ILI's dislike fake people.

difficult match...

[Jarno]

After my experience with ILIs men I would say they are the most boring and self-pitying partners I have ever had! They say they aren't the jealous type and let you go to the party alone because they have to work, study etc. But after the party they start act cold and you can do nothing with it.
But the worst thing about them is that they have no passion! They have this depressing love going around them. They write poems to you but actually all they want is to have someone who will deal with all they problems (and they have a lot of them) when you stop carrying about his hysteric mother or rude boss and start talking about things YOU care they decide that you are too apathetic and start act cold again and what means NO SEX (which isn't a big loss because i found ILIs men too soft and again... boring in bed).
Oh and ILIs are really very loyal... physically only.. because they do NOT forget half of their exes.
Being a SEE girl I don't believe in -your dual is the best for you- theory anymore. I am going out with another SEE right now and he is the best man I have ever had!


And sorry for my English.

I know enough succes stories about ILI and SEE. So I think you just encountered a couple of niffweeds.

[sarinana]

yeah, most SEE women hate nerds.

ILI's dislike fake people.

difficult match...

not all SEEs are fake and definitely not all ILIs are nerds..

[sarinana]

I know enough succes stories about ILI and SEE. So I think you just encountered a couple of niffweeds.

lol at niffweeds

its a story about me and IEI. I have to rename this thread.. I have confused not only myself but some more people too..arggg

[DirectorAbbie]

lol at niffweeds

its a story about me and IEI. I have to rename this thread.. I have confused not only myself but some more people too..arggg

...so you mistyped someone and assumed you don't like your dual. Personally, I don't see how an IEI could be mistaken for an ILI.

[sarinana]

...so you mistyped someone and assumed you don't like your dual. Personally, I don't see how an IEI could be mistaken for an ILI.

When I created this thread I didn't understood socionics quite well.. I am sorry...

[Jarno]

When I created this thread I didn't understood socionics quite well.. I am sorry...

no problem, it's good you cleared it up, it stops the spreading a confusion.

[nanashi]

I think that's why they need whores.

We need a cartoon with a guy divided between a whore and a computer.

What ILI would be satisfied with that?

[sarinana]

I am back!!! Met an INTp!!! amazing one!!!!

[717495]

Yeah, just got to look under some rocks here or there, dust some cobwebs off, and there you go. Back in action. And it's true, the tortoise and the hare run separate races.

[crazedrat]

In ways you seem ESE. Many things you say sort of annoy me. Why do you choose SEE over ESE?

[Satan]

What ILI would be satisfied with that?

what ILI is ever satisfied.