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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    I want to know who is my damn dual
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar
    Okay, honestly. I have no memory of ever making a conscious message to you. What the hell are you talking about? You strike down on me from my very blue clear sky. great, you don't like what I'm writing, DON'T FUCKING REPLY all annoyingly and act shitty, you dumbfuck.
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    Baby I think we should get married Aha JK...sorta...And what do you mean by "when I get my ass in shape" pish posh
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTP
    Duality Blows
    LOL maybe it does....why do you say so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTP
    Baby I think we should get married
    k! How's next Wednesday work for ya? :wink:

    About the getting my ass in shape part: I'm a recovering ectomorph trying to pack on a little flesh for my delicate waif-like frame.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
    -- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
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    Baby I think we should get married
    k! How's next Wednesday work for ya? :wink:

    About the getting my ass in shape part: I'm a recovering ectomorph trying to pack on a little flesh for my delicate waif-like frame.

    Uh...its going to have to be Thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by ESTP
    Duality Blows
    LOL maybe it does....why do you say so?
    Because of my situation...It just sucks, because I know the potential, but he's a retard and friggin' hasn't called me...regardless, I know there's so many factors and sooo many reasons why we shouldn't even bother. But fuck, if anything I just wanna do him...best sex ever! But...I know he's gonna be super busy til the end of the month anyway, but still damn it! I dont give a fuck!!
    Yesterday I knew nothing, today I know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTP
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
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    Duality Blows
    LOL maybe it does....why do you say so?
    Because of my situation...It just sucks, because I know the potential, but he's a retard and friggin' hasn't called me...regardless, I know there's so many factors and sooo many reasons why we shouldn't even bother. But fuck, if anything I just wanna do him...best sex ever! But...I know he's gonna be super busy til the end of the month anyway, but still damn it! I dont give a fuck!!
    yeah wtf sometimes you gotta just go for it. who knows what will happen? i imagine you're talking about the infp dude you are seeing right now....look at it this way, even if it doesn't work out, you're young yet. you'll be in a position to say "NEXT!!" haha

    i'm not sure about duality either. esp since i'm having a great time with an infp who is my illusionary...things are going well. better than well. infp's must be great at sex, too.

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    Duality doesn't suck. People suck.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
    -- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet

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    any girls who suck can feel free to call me anytime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Duality doesn't suck. People suck.
    it's not duality sucks, it's duality blows. get it right dude, lol :wink:

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    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
    -- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet

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    That is very true, Baby. This is the very reason I wish Socionics could be taken to the masses.. despite how difficult that task would be.. so that everyone could understand/value the importance of certain relationships.. and realize why they are the way they are..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    some people suck i guess. but for me, ya gotta love people. ALL of them even if they do suck, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    some people suck i guess. but for me, ya gotta love people. ALL of them even if they do suck, lol
    more reason for you to possibly need a restraining order against me in the parallel universe where you are male. And single. <-- did that make sense?

    Anyway I am confused about this divide. Seriously, i think duality is lame but it's probably because I think socionics is lame. It's lame because we would even be restricted in the information we can receive at all. Its not like love, where you have to have two people to experience this thing that is better than nothing at all. It's like if you have certain functions you have to like, receive info that match your dual seeking function. It blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    some people suck i guess. but for me, ya gotta love people. ALL of them even if they do suck, lol
    more reason for you to possibly need a restraining order against me in the parallel universe where you are male. And single. <-- did that make sense?

    Anyway I am confused about this divide. Seriously, i think duality is lame but it's probably because I think socionics is lame. It's lame because we would even be restricted in the information we can receive at all. Its not like love, where you have to have two people to experience this thing that is better than nothing at all. It's like if you have certain functions you have to like, receive info that match your dual seeking function. It blows.
    hmmmm you looking for an entp, ms. k? :-) i think there's more of them around than females ones, for sure. i'm flattered....

    i didn't know you thought socionics was lame, lol. the way your putting it i spose you're right. i've never been able to identify an isfp in my life that i'm attracted to, so according to socionics, in other kinds of relationships i have to restrain myself or something. socionics gives itself a major loophole when they say if you didn't grow up with duality then you have a harder time finding it. myself, i think that some of us are meant to have a rougher time in relationships....our souls are here to learn or something....and others get to have an easier time in their relationships. but maybe they get a harder time elsewhere. despite all the stuff that's happened to me and that i've brought on myself, i still feel totally blessed and lucky!

    and you never know what God has in mind either. case in point, my life has been one painful thing after another and is much less than perfect, but my kids are sooo great. well, my brother and sister in law (mr. and mrs. perfect, enfp & infj) just had a baby and it has a birth defect and hey wow, that's what God gave them to learn from i guess. they live their lives according to all the rules, save and invest their money wisely, (unlike me; i spend my money on shoes) finish school on time, (i did the go-don't go- finish in 6 years plan, lol) eat the perfect vegetarian diet, (gained weight from eating dessert from both my pregnancies and another health related issue!) but here's something in their lives that can't be controlled and that's not going according to plan. so i guess that's a lesson before them.

    i asked my man about duality like what's the downside. he said, if you're always with your dual who makes things so easy for you then how do you learn and grow? i actually saw this is a pretty good criticism of duality, but then again this personal development thing might be an alpha value. if we buy into socioniics, that is. so i'll be safe in my illusionary relationship, i think, esp since he and i talk talk talk about all kinds of fantastical stuff between his Ni and my Ne! again, that's if we buy into it though.

    don't sweat things. God's got a plan for you. for sure! :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    some people suck i guess. but for me, ya gotta love people. ALL of them even if they do suck, lol
    more reason for you to possibly need a restraining order against me in the parallel universe where you are male. And single. <-- did that make sense?

    Anyway I am confused about this divide. Seriously, i think duality is lame but it's probably because I think socionics is lame. It's lame because we would even be restricted in the information we can receive at all. Its not like love, where you have to have two people to experience this thing that is better than nothing at all. It's like if you have certain functions you have to like, receive info that match your dual seeking function. It blows.
    hmmmm you looking for an entp, ms. k? :-) i think there's more of them around than females ones, for sure. i'm flattered....

    i didn't know you thought socionics was lame, lol. the way your putting it i spose you're right. i've never been able to identify an isfp in my life that i'm attracted to, so according to socionics, in other kinds of relationships i have to restrain myself or something. socionics gives itself a major loophole when they say if you didn't grow up with duality then you have a harder time finding it. myself, i think that some of us are meant to have a rougher time in relationships....our souls are here to learn or something....and others get to have an easier time in their relationships. but maybe they get a harder time elsewhere. despite all the stuff that's happened to me and that i've brought on myself, i still feel totally blessed and lucky!

    and you never know what God has in mind either. case in point, my life has been one painful thing after another and is much less than perfect, but my kids are sooo great. well, my brother and sister in law (mr. and mrs. perfect, enfp & infj) just had a baby and it has a birth defect and hey wow, that's what God gave them to learn from i guess. they live their lives according to all the rules, save and invest their money wisely, (unlike me; i spend my money on shoes) finish school on time, (i did the go-don't go- finish in 6 years plan, lol) eat the perfect vegetarian diet, (gained weight from eating dessert from both my pregnancies and another health related issue!) but here's something in their lives that can't be controlled and that's not going according to plan. so i guess that's a lesson before them.

    i asked my man about duality like what's the downside. he said, if you're always with your dual who makes things so easy for you then how do you learn and grow? i actually saw this is a pretty good criticism of duality, but then again this personal development thing might be an alpha value. if we buy into socioniics, that is. so i'll be safe in my illusionary relationship, i think, esp since he and i talk talk talk about all kinds of fantastical stuff between his Ni and my Ne! again, that's if we buy into it though.

    don't sweat things. God's got a plan for you. for sure! :wink:
    God's plan for me is to eat sweat things

    /edit... errr wait... wrong word. lol I meant sweet things (blows the whole joke )

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    serriously... ftr I don't eat sweaty things (unless they're good sweaty :wink: )

    *throws down shovel and climbs out of hole*

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    I cant believe God was brought into Socionics...



    Note: If there's a God, its me...and since im not feeling all that holy, guess what eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTP
    I cant believe God was brought into Socionics...



    Note: If there's a God, its me...and since im not feeling all that holy, guess what eh?
    wow. my faith is what sustains me. and i'm sorta holistic....blending socionics with spirituality. an Ne thing i guess.

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    I blend spiritually with Socionics, too... only in a more Taoist sort of way, but still.
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I know. But "People blow" just doesn't have the same ring to it. Actually, now that I think of it, I amend my statement:

    Duality doesn't suck. People suck at it.
    some people suck i guess. but for me, ya gotta love people. ALL of them even if they do suck, lol
    more reason for you to possibly need a restraining order against me in the parallel universe where you are male. And single. <-- did that make sense?

    Anyway I am confused about this divide. Seriously, i think duality is lame but it's probably because I think socionics is lame. It's lame because we would even be restricted in the information we can receive at all. Its not like love, where you have to have two people to experience this thing that is better than nothing at all. It's like if you have certain functions you have to like, receive info that match your dual seeking function. It blows.
    Where is your IJ-ness msk?

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    Yes, Will do ENFj-ISTj duality I have experienced, Only one day and the end of the day it felt euhorhic.

    I work in walgreens(big pharmacy chain here in the U.S,), and one of the manager was tranferred and a new manager would be here covering just for a week. So through out the week she was there I only got the chance to work with her once, and it was the last day she was there becuase she was working either in the mourning or afterrnonn which I never got the chance to work with her. When I first saw her in the office, there was an ILE who I was very close with, always enagaed in deep spriutal/philosophy conversation and it would always get intensively interesting. So like everyday, before I started my shift I would chat with her about psychology/philiosophy stuff. That ILE's FE HA was obivous, when she meet somebody new she would always try some sort of FE to get to know the new person, so as I was having these conversation with the ILE, which is often LONG fruitful ideas being exchange, I can tell that the LSI in the room wants to get into this conversation, and when the ILE tries to get her into the group discussion, she did and right away I noticed how she was having hard time picking up with the pace of the conversation, her being an introvert after all. but she seem to be one of LSI celebrity who tries to express her self on TV, very TI-SE, like pushing her extrovertness to the extend. I try to narrated somewhat like a teacher in between the discussion and I get alot of Ti explantion from her. From the three way conversation, I can tell that she was being supervised becuase of the randomness the ILE throws at her and she would freeze, the Fe+NI I threw at her and she can easily grasp at.

    I usually act really aristocratic in front of people I first met, and on that day, commuinication with her was SO easy, both of us just throw off the awkwardness of being with people, No adpating, just talk and naturally being dualized. When I had a customer, she would naturally just wait for me to finish off with the customer then start conversation with me, AN SEI was there and he was like how come you two stop talking? she was like yea because he just had a customer(both of us are like how can we talk and work at the same time?) but I knew we were in the same page, the flow, ideas, jokes, everything from the first hour of meeting her until the last couple of hours when we dismiss I noticed a very different intonation of speaking. NO pretending, words come out easier. We talked about people and it was so easy. I even ask her at the end of the day that I study psychology and ask her what she thought about me, she goes, You are cool, funny and very easily to talk to. and Damn we JUST CLICK!
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    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

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    Scarlettlux I thought you were in love with an INFp?! Lol, I am so confused.

    Ughh. This post makes me miss my ESTp, even more than usual, I am going to go find him this weekend.

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    now i want a dual

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    the most seemingly dual-like connections i've had have always started off awkward. usually with the other person sitting down alone doing nothing, and then being reluctant to want to do anything to change the situation etc.

    and then i have come in not knowing any of the people around, being an outsider/stranger/whatever.

    and after some amount of *something* i've got them to at lesat stand up., and they're even kind of talking, and then it's like there's all this space around us, and we're kind of taking up a lot of space around, and no-one seems to want to come too close..,., but if leaving the dynamic.. it's like. ,.

    there's this spinning out a bit of the other person.., and umm., if i'm not careful people can comment on how the other person isn't normally like that...

    weee..

    i think one of the things that confuses me about duality or something, is that introverted people can become much more social/outgoing.. and seem like extroverts...

    blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    Ughh. This post makes me miss my ESTp, even more than usual, I am going to go find him this weekend.
    wtf what happened to the IEI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    wtf what happened to the IEI?
    Nothing... I like them both !

    This is why I don't like people knowing I want them, because then it's all like I 'owe' them something, but I need time to figure it out, and if you are with one then that can totally mess it up with the other, it's all fragile, I don't know which I like more or if they even want to get into a relationship....

    =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    Nothing... I like them both !

    This is why I don't like people knowing I want them, because then it's all like I 'owe' them something, but I need time to figure it out, and if you are with one then that can totally mess it up with the other, it's all fragile, I don't know which I like more or if they even want to get into a relationship....

    =/
    you're fickle

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    you're fickle
    pot calling the kettle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    you're fickle

    Yes, because of idealism. It doesn't mean my feelings for them are lacking in depth though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    Yes, because of idealism. It doesn't mean my feelings for them are lacking in depth though.
    yeah I get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    Nothing... I like them both !

    This is why I don't like people knowing I want them, because then it's all like I 'owe' them something, but I need time to figure it out, and if you are with one then that can totally mess it up with the other, it's all fragile, I don't know which I like more or if they even want to get into a relationship....

    =/
    Get with the SLE! You know only negativity can arise from a relationship with the IEI.

    Although IEI is better than the rest of the quadras (for me IEI is the best type). It's like Churchill always said:

    "IEI is the worst type except all the others that have been tried."

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    Yes, because of idealism. It doesn't mean my feelings for them are lacking in depth though.
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    yeah I get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    It's like Churchill always said:

    "IEI is the worst type except all the others that have been tried."
    what??

    Anyway, I agree. Dinki, get with the SLE if you can. Duality trumps identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    what??

    Anyway, I agree. Dinki, get with the SLE if you can. Duality trumps identical.
    Duhhhhhh...



    Actually, you are American and Americans aren't expect to know, well, anything, so I'll forgive you.

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    lol Ezra! I knew that quote but I was being dense about him having said it about IEIs. sorry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    what??

    Anyway, I agree. Dinki, get with the SLE if you can. Duality trumps identical.
    =)<3.

    Hmm, I feel really insecure about that lately. Like yesterday I just suddenly felt very sad. I think it may be that he's over me, or has found another IEI, maybe both .

    I had long enough, but not enough time. I want to find out why I have this feeling, but I am scared to at the same time. However I feel like there is a still a chance to 'save it'.

    Like what the hell am I meant to say if I do find him? "Hello, are you not infactuated with me anymore?" lol.


    Oh, Redbaron have you ever had a romantic dual relationship? I remember your best friend is one! Aw, I am jealous , that must be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    =)<3.

    Hmm, I feel really insecure about that lately. Like yesterday I just suddenly felt very sad. I think it may be that he's over me, or has found another IEI, maybe both .

    I had long enough, but not enough time. I want to find out why I have this feeling, but I am scared to at the same time. However I feel like there is a still a chance to 'save it'.

    Like what the hell am I meant to say if I do find him? "Hello, are you not infactuated with me anymore?" lol.

    Oh, Redbaron have you ever had a romantic dual relationship? I remember your best friend is one! Aw, I am jealous , that must be cool.
    I went out with a dual when I was very young. It was the easiest relationship ever. But I wasn't particularly attached to him. We weren't together long enough for me to really have even been in love with him. It was just a couple months, a summer thing, and then we had to move on.

    You know, to take a larger view of it, if this one gets away, there will be others. I know, easy for ME to say. But seriously, don't waste too much time (the way I did on occasion with relationships) thinking it to death, wondering, pondering, moping... life is too short!

    (I do have an SLE friend, but he's not my best friend)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    lol Ezra! I knew that quote but I was being dense about him having said it about IEIs. sorry...
    AHAHA! Classic. I love it. <3<3<3

    Quote Originally Posted by dinki View Post
    =)<3.

    Hmm, I feel really insecure about that lately. Like yesterday I just suddenly felt very sad. I think it may be that he's over me, or has found another IEI, maybe both .
    LOL if he's found another IEI but is not over you. Then he'll be in the same position as you!

    Except that... he isn't, because he's SLE. He'll make his choice.

    My only advice is not to get hurt. Don't open yourself too much. I'm tired of seeing girls (a lot of them my friends) get hurt over guys and then parade around spouting out the dogma that "men are bastards" for the rest of their sorry-ass feminist, lesbian lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    My only advice is not to get hurt. Don't open yourself too much. I'm tired of seeing girls (a lot of them my friends) get hurt over guys and then parade around spouting out the dogma that "men are bastards" for the rest of their sorry-ass feminist, lesbian lives.
    I second this. You're in charge of your heart, dinki. and... men are great. underneath it all, they have tender hearts too. just different ways of dealing with stuff sometimes.
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