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    i give a shit but nothing is coming to mind. istj? istp?

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    I think ESTj is very possible, but I have to think further.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    I'm thinking John McCain is an ESFJ.

    He clearly values his independence. He goes out of his way to get people to like him even when there's no political advantage to doing so. Also, he doesn't apologize over every joke he makes. Instead he tells people to lighten up and live a little when they're offended. One big example of this was when someone said something about Iran having the bomb, and he ad-libbed "Bom-bom-bom, bom-bom-aran" to the tune of that dumb song "Ba-ba-baran". The media confronted him about it, and he defended his right to joke with his veteran friends. It was a dumb joke sure, but so was the song it was based on. Nobody sane would take that as a serious threat in my opinion.


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    good case, but i think he's more LSE. i can see why this would point to ESE, but i think this sort of thing is more an innocuous, harmless kind of joke that more closely points to the Si-related points of his memory than anything else.

    no, i think that most of the time he's a very serious, dry, matter-of-fact person who takes his principles very seriously and who is very focused on what he perceives as his duty rather than anything to do with fun or emotional atmosphere.

    compared to bill clinton for example he seems much less animated and much more serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    good case, but i think he's more LSE. i can see why this would point to ESE, but i think this sort of thing is more an innocuous, harmless kind of joke that more closely points to the Si-related points of his memory than anything else.

    no, i think that most of the time he's a very serious, dry, matter-of-fact person who takes his principles very seriously and who is very focused on what he perceives as his duty rather than anything to do with fun or emotional atmosphere.

    compared to bill clinton for example he seems much less animated and much more serious.
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    I got an ESxj feel from him as well. A lean towards ESTj for me though too.
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    i think delta!
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    I'm very liberal, left-wing but I can't help liking McCain. He comes across both in his manner and his actions as independent, principled, honest and decent. Alot of liberals seem to think likewise, although still wouldn't vote for him given the chance. What is it about him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akeaneau View Post
    I'm very liberal, left-wing but I can't help liking McCain. He comes across both in his manner and his actions as independent, principled, honest and decent. Alot of liberals seem to think likewise, although still wouldn't vote for him given the chance. What is it about him?
    his sanity.

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    Why are boring and unattractive people always associated with Delta? =(

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    He looks like a --0 ESI. He reminds me my dad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post


    He looks like a --0 ESI. He reminds me my dad...

    He is not ESI.
    He is SLI.
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    yeah dude. he seems like the kind of guy who wants to eat high quality foods from all over the world and then make woodcrafts. he doesn't all seem like a controlling, aggressive, and extremely goal-driven man. nah not that. he's totally into sensory perceptions. irrational all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    no he's a girly LSE... I think
    ESI dudes are usually manly. In fact, it's the manliest Ethical type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    ESI dudes are usually manly. In fact, it's the manliest Ethical type.
    good point, you're probably right!
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    I thought someone typed him SLE in another thread.
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    I would have thought he is Fi valuing if nothing else.
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    I have no idea but he looks like the type of dude that has really stinky fecal matter. Doesn't he? Like you just know when he goes to the bathroom he blows it up.

    Eww, Republicans.

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    I hadn't really considered ESI before, but now that I do, it seems very, very plausible.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    He's ISTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    lol lol lol.

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    He was ILI INTP-Ni {THE AUDITOR per my archetypes}like Ivan Pavlov.
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    McCain was an ESI-Se; he dressed originally and in vibrant colors like ESI-Se tend to. McCain as LSE and SLI make no sense. Obama was the opposite subtype, notice the difference in how much less original Obama's perceptions are, how much more commanding and serious he looked and sounded, how his clothes were darker, and how much less calm he was compared to McCain in the 2008 debates.

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    John McCain - ESFJ - Hugo


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    LSE

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    I can't see how anyone thought he was a Delta. He was totally ESI-Se. Not sure why he would be more representative of the ST Pragmatist club than the SF social club, he was totally into knowing who everyone was and everything about them and in the debates with Obama, John McCain didn't show much logic or knowledge nor did he even seem to care to. LSE-Te don't keep that much track of people and into partying like John McCain did, nor do they display that much interest in that many people as individuals, they don't know people at as deep of a level as John McCain did. Besides, in his youth he V.I.'d as ESI-Se, he looked kind of like Irena Sendler who was also an ESI-Se. He was way more natural and uninhibited with people than LSE-Te are.

    So many people confuse ESI with LSE; also, even though socionics isn't very good for relationships, Ron Paul was probably his conflictor and they didn't get along well at all (I used to think Ron Paul was an ESI, but the more I think about it the more I think he was an ILE-Ti)... they held almost entirely differently views. ESI are probably the type least likely to support totally stopping the current foreign policy (remember, Woodrow Wilson was an ESI-Se). Even Ted Cruz was an ESI-Se and he supported more military spending.
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