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    Default Most misunderstood socionics type?

    i would have guessed an introverted type, but there are many factors that can lead to bad communication.

    So i guess the answer will consider both the abnormality or less easily understood thought processes and behavior, and also perhaps the way in which communication plays out with this type.

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    Looking at my own life, I'm inclined to type in "INFj".
    However, I say "ISFj".
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    I would say INFj, also.

    Most ignored type-->INTp
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    I would have to say ISFj. INFjs are the most ignored. INTps have the most hidden potential.

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    ENTps - people have this thing about just assuming that they hate people because of they have problems expressing and use alot of ...

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    I think every type is misunderstood on some level. Isn't this what personality theory was meant to help with? Trying to help us understand motivations behind people's behavior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I think every type is misunderstood on some level. Isn't this what personality theory was meant to help with? Trying to help us understand motivations behind people's behavior?
    Of course not! It's meant to help you stay away from the evil/annoying/weird/dumb/shallow ones and find yourself a dual. Nothing else matters! :wink:

    Now descend back into the abyss, you needy narcistic INFp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro-the-Lion
    infps... they can't even understand themselves
    Oh my gosh, how true is that... But that makes them very lovable in all their confusion, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro-the-Lion
    least understood? infps... they can't even understand themselves
    Who am I?

    Where am I going in life?

    How do I compare to other people?

    Where am I?

    Are you my friend?

    ... I'm lost...

    Oh, look!! A butterfly...
    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    lol. Somehow my own steriotype flatters me insteaed of bugging me. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryBottom
    lol. Somehow my own steriotype flatters me insteaed of bugging me. :wink:
    Of course it does, you are an INFp! You people celebrate your oddness. It's great!

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    Who am I?

    Where am I going in life?

    How do I compare to other people?

    Where am I?

    Are you my friend?

    ... I'm lost...

    Oh, look!! A butterfly...

    You missed...

    What is the meaning, what does it all mean?

    and Why? Oh Why?

    etc...

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    yeah but i was asking about "most" misunderstood. heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryBottom
    lol. Somehow my own steriotype flatters me insteaed of bugging me.
    You know, I find Rocky's little INFp soliloquay charming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim (nlo)
    Now descend back into the abyss, you needy narcistic INFp!
    *running away from Kim who is chasing him with a large pointy object* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

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    Well, I don't know if they are INFp, but I'll add some confusion for confusion's sake:
    Is this all real?
    Can I trust what I see and know?
    Are the others saying what I think I hear?
    Is there truly a Pi?
    and
    What is the meaning of...
    X!?!?
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    I've thought about all of those exept...

    Is there truly a Pi?
    I couldn't care less.


    What is the meaning of...
    X!?!?
    If this is implying math, then I mirror my last answer.



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    In socionics language "understanding" is relative to whether or not the people being observed share the same strong functions in their conscious ring.

    I'm not being a smartass, but i think that this is the real point to all of it.

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    yeah kinda wadz.

    i just felt like there are some types that would be more prone to being minuderstood. even if you have similar functions or should understand by socionic standards, if you're a woman of very few words or speak in your own fnatasy language it would be really easy to misunderstand you.

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    No, I hear what you're saying. It isn't that it was a bad question.

    It's all relative to what the societal standards are. If the society values a certain way of living, like the U.S. values Te, business logic, that will be regarded as a standard which is revered and necessary. In a church a quiet, ethical type, will be revered and and understood as a good person, even by people which could very well have a conflicting value system. A businessman will go to church in order to stimulate their weak areas and gain that neglected "peace of mind", but they couldn't really do it as a profession. It changes from group to group and is relative from individual to individual.

    So, like many things, it depends on the scenery.

    I think a good way to look at it would be by thinking about what contexts certain people are more likely to be misunderstood in... or burned alive in.

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    i think a person could be minuderstood equally-- or more than other types-- in a business situation and in a religious situation. It's not about being different per se

    if you think that everything's relative sociologically, then i'll pick a scenery at random-- this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcnew
    ENTps - people have this thing about just assuming that they hate people because of they have problems expressing and use alot of ...
    Coming back to this... I don't think ILEs are misunderstood so much as either disliked or looked down upon by some people. I remember on our Highschool baseball team that their were exactly three ILEs, and every single one of them were hated for some reason (not by me but by most). I think part of that was because all of them could be seen as suck ups or the coach's little babies or something. One of these guys was known as the team bitch, one of them knew the coach personally and still showed off how he was such a "good guy" and did everything, and the third one was talked about behind his back so much because he riviled guy #2 in carring equipment and guy #1 in playing puppy dog to the coach to the point of being somewhat obnoxious.

    I came to the same conclusion as McNew that it probably had something to do with their Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryBottom
    Who am I?

    Where am I going in life?

    How do I compare to other people?

    Where am I?

    Are you my friend?

    ... I'm lost...

    Oh, look!! A butterfly...

    You missed...

    What is the meaning, what does it all mean?

    and Why? Oh Why?

    etc...
    And where are we all going on this crazy, mixed-up blue-green planet??
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    The most misunderstood types should be those who can find the least "Understanding" on first or second function examples among others.

    That is... plain statistics ^^ Look for the "least understood" function pair, do some calculations and you'll fall in somewhere .

    on the other hands is mind-reading without saying a word... so anyone would easily misunderstand those
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim (nlo)
    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I think every type is misunderstood on some level. Isn't this what personality theory was meant to help with? Trying to help us understand motivations behind people's behavior?
    Of course not! It's meant to help you stay away from the evil/annoying/weird/dumb/shallow ones and find yourself a dual. Nothing else matters! :wink:

    Now descend back into the abyss, you needy narcistic INFp!
    LOL!

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    1. ESFP
    2. ESFJ

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    Some IEIs? People don’t realise how much I am keeping everyone’s egos in check just by existing.

    but it’s not really type-related. The most misunderstood people are quiet people, probably with high anxiety. May include SEI, ESI, rare SEEs. Sometimes IEEs and EIEs can themselves misunderstand a situation so badly and feel more shame that we might realise. Some LIIs and EIIs- the quieter ones. Maybe some SLIs and the rare LIE.
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    Top 5 in order:
    1. EII - You know, when they showed their Se, people took it as their ego instantly, thus mistyped.
    2. ESI - Literally the same case, except that people seemed to think they are as wholesome as the EII.
    3. ILI - Hidden potentials but never have any willingness to show their talents and well, they won't.
    4. ILE - Just clueless people, you never know whether they dislike people or not, but aren't nice either.
    5. IEI - They don't even understand themselves, how could they be understood by others? Unicorns?
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    Lol, love those emojis here and there, very cheerful of your type. But well, speaking of which, it usually is Fi so uh...
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    I think ILIs. They're often in their own heads and come off as very emotionless and closed off despite usually being harmless. They definitely try to connect to others (Fi hidden agenda and all), but they aren't the best at explaining their feelings, thus they may be misread easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius View Post
    I think ILIs. They're often in their own heads and come off as very emotionless and closed off despite usually being harmless. They definitely try to connect to others (Fi hidden agenda and all), but they aren't the best at explaining their feelings, thus they may be misread easily.
    The main problem that they really have is Fe- as PolR, this desire to tell other people straight facts to their face. They are almost creative in their way of easily becoming hated in a group. Life is irrational and people are often driven by emotions no matter their type.the good think about that type is that they won't play games with you. What you see is what you get
    the majority of people who browse this site are IEI. intuition of time is the function that is interested in the psychological state of human beings. don't waste >100 dollar on a nonsense typing interview. typology is a field dominated by INxx, especially IEI.

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    Eh, I mean, if you want to know whether someone is an ILI or not, you should've noticed which person who has the most negative impression...
    Well, this isn't due to their inability to communicate, but rather that they don't want to be liked by anyone who they deem as fake.
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    All introverts. But as long as they can express their base function they can be understood somehow. If they cannot, then they will be misunderstood. Probably Ni and Si bases are the most misunderstood in the sense that people dont really see what they are about.
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    SLE LSE . If only you knew smh.

    Peoples just don’t want to understand .

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    I think because Fi doms are so subjective they have a hard time communicating themselves in ways people understand. But as a type I don't think they are the most misunderstood. Probably ILE misunderstood as a type, I don't think we fully understand how detached they really are, or if they as as detached as we think, or who knows.

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    As in real life or as in the stereotypes mapped to the reality?

    In terms of the latter case I'd say lots of people do not know they have met a LII when they see one (same might go with ILE).
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    I think different people understand others around them better or worse according to how they, themselves, are; when someone is more relatable, it's easier to understand them, for instance. Conflictors might say their conflictors are the hardest to understand. However, a lot of people here seem to be claiming their own types are perhaps the most misunderstood, and I think that goes to show that we all feel a little misunderstood. I think it goes to show that most people don't truly use active listening or hear what the heart is saying. Most people judge rather than trying to understand.
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