Difficulty and distance in socializing with INTps

[KSpin]

This really does make me question whether drd252 has gotten his type right. I'm extremely skeptical.

oh please

I totally understand where you guys are coming from, because I used to be exactly the same way. It took about 5 or 6 years of hard work to get where I am today, in terms of being willing and able to dance. I'm tellin' you, it's worth the effort :wink:

And how old are you now?

[olduser]

old enough to dance.

also: good for you dnbhead. I commend you for your hard work in learning to express yourself through dance but I must make mention that we are giving out the earned congratulatory pats on the back in the designated thread. Please use it if you need to compliment yourself or require compliments from others. We are trying to maitain a highly organized self-esteem management system and if you continue to disobey the organization there will be consequences of unpleasurable nature.

[mike_INTJ]

@ Mike_INTJ
@ KSpin

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Just fucking dance. Unless you're at some "super hip" club with a bunch of fake-as-all-hell people, no one really gives a fuck about how you dance; granted, if you're good at it, people will respond positively, however almost no one will come up and insult/belittle/make fun of you (to your face at least) if you have questionable skills.

*Plays some evil dnb and does a little dance in cubicle*

Go to a Drum 'n' Bass show, if you don't find yourself breathless and sweating profusely hours later, you might as well be dead.


BOH!!!

i see you speak fluent moron.

listen - if you want to look like a total idiot on the dance floor - go ahead and do it. other's like myself would like to have the skill to blow away the competion. and more so than that, while you think no one is paying attention - if you dance like a fool, people will call you a fool. and with an attitude like yours, people probably have a variety of names they call you. people will never go up to you - instead they will laugh away from you and you will simply be an outcast. but those like you will never notice because you generated your own world view about yourself.

[mike_INTJ]

This really does make me question whether drd252 has gotten his type right. I'm extremely skeptical.

oh please

I totally understand where you guys are coming from, because I used to be exactly the same way. It took about 5 or 6 years of hard work to get where I am today, in terms of being willing and able to dance. I'm tellin' you, it's worth the effort :wink:

it's worth the effort? why?

[ScarlettLux]

Ahh, KSpin & Mike...

Lighten up! Come on.. life's not all about the analyzation.. it's about the passion. The freedom. Just .. being. In the present moment. Just thinking about it makes me all furbly inside.. mhmmm... breathing in the warm summer air.. the touch of rain on my skin.. what does this have to do with anything in this thread? Umm.. helping ILIs stop being so damn prude! Do you ever get sick of observing everything and not partaking in it? I hate what you said about being called a fool - who gives two shits about what people say? Just do what you want to do and enjoy doing it.

[ScarlettLux]

@ Mike_INTJ
@ KSpin

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Just fucking dance. Unless you're at some "super hip" club with a bunch of fake-as-all-hell people, no one really gives a fuck about how you dance; granted, if you're good at it, people will respond positively, however almost no one will come up and insult/belittle/make fun of you (to your face at least) if you have questionable skills.

*Plays some evil dnb and does a little dance in cubicle*

Go to a Drum 'n' Bass show, if you don't find yourself breathless and sweating profusely hours later, you might as well be dead.


BOH!!!

i see you speak fluent moron.

listen - if you want to look like a total idiot on the dance floor - go ahead and do it. other's like myself would like to have the skill to blow away the competion. and more so than that, while you think no one is paying attention - if you dance like a fool, people will call you a fool. and with an attitude like yours, people probably have a variety of names they call you. people will never go up to you - instead they will laugh away from you and you will simply be an outcast. but those like you will never notice because you generated your own world view about yourself.

Wow, you're a bitter man.

[leckysupport]

You haven't truly begun to have fun until you've danced like a idiot in a club without a care in the world.

[drd252]

I'm 21.

lol @ Heath

@ Mike_INTJ
@ KSpin

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Just fucking dance. Unless you're at some "super hip" club with a bunch of fake-as-all-hell people, no one really gives a fuck about how you dance; granted, if you're good at it, people will respond positively, however almost no one will come up and insult/belittle/make fun of you (to your face at least) if you have questionable skills.

*Plays some evil dnb and does a little dance in cubicle*

Go to a Drum 'n' Bass show, if you don't find yourself breathless and sweating profusely hours later, you might as well be dead.


BOH!!!

i see you speak fluent moron.

listen - if you want to look like a total idiot on the dance floor - go ahead and do it. other's like myself would like to have the skill to blow away the competion. and more so than that, while you think no one is paying attention - if you dance like a fool, people will call you a fool. and with an attitude like yours, people probably have a variety of names they call you. people will never go up to you - instead they will laugh away from you and you will simply be an outcast. but those like you will never notice because you generated your own world view about yourself.

I see (once again) you speak fluent dumb-ass pussy.

You COMPLETELY MISS the point of dancing. Dancing isn't a competition; anyone who's ever really danced knows that. If you think dancing is a competition, you'd might as well call eating competitive, or breathing competitive... Yes, some dance "better" than others; however, anyone who ostracizes another simply for having lower relative skill, doesn't know what dancing is about, and is therefore a dumb-ass pussy.

Fuck anyone who would call anyone a fool for dancing, those people aren't worthy of my attention.

Asking why it's worth the effort (to learn to dance) only further highlights your inherent ineptitude about the matter

[stevENTj]

flame wars over dancing? what the F?

[KSpin]

flame wars over dancing? what the F?

Dancing is unproductive. End of.

[ScarlettLux]

*huggles KSpin*

[FDG]

Dancing is definitely competition to my eyes, totally. But I know that most people don't think about it that way. I guess it's more healthy. However if you dance with a girl you really like you won't think about competition any more.

But anyway d123345254 is right that nobody ever ostracizes people that don't dance well, at least after you get past the 14 years of age; and anyway anybody that does needs only to be smashed a plate in the face.

[Jarno]

To talk about competition is probably grounded on the false belief that everyone is watching you.

Dancing results mostly in the opposite; fainting away in the background of people. (unless you're the only one dancing :wink: )

It's just a way of blending in with the rythm of the music.

I think every ILI should learn some safe techniques and they will have more fun when going out...

[FDG]

To talk about competition is probably grounded on the false belief that everyone is watching you.

Dancing results mostly in the opposite; fainting away in the background of people. (unless you're the only one dancing :wink: )

Depends on how good you are

[Jarno]

To talk about competition is probably grounded on the false belief that everyone is watching you.

Dancing results mostly in the opposite; fainting away in the background of people. (unless you're the only one dancing :wink: )

Depends on how good you are

yes some are really good, they can even scare people off the dancefloor probably. But 90% of the people dance somewhat the same. In my eyes....

[mike_INTJ]

@ Mike_INTJ
@ KSpin

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Just fucking dance. Unless you're at some "super hip" club with a bunch of fake-as-all-hell people, no one really gives a fuck about how you dance; granted, if you're good at it, people will respond positively, however almost no one will come up and insult/belittle/make fun of you (to your face at least) if you have questionable skills.

*Plays some evil dnb and does a little dance in cubicle*

Go to a Drum 'n' Bass show, if you don't find yourself breathless and sweating profusely hours later, you might as well be dead.


BOH!!!

i see you speak fluent moron.

listen - if you want to look like a total idiot on the dance floor - go ahead and do it. other's like myself would like to have the skill to blow away the competion. and more so than that, while you think no one is paying attention - if you dance like a fool, people will call you a fool. and with an attitude like yours, people probably have a variety of names they call you. people will never go up to you - instead they will laugh away from you and you will simply be an outcast. but those like you will never notice because you generated your own world view about yourself.

Wow, you're a bitter man.

you mean accurate

[mike_INTJ]

I'm 21.

lol @ Heath

@ Mike_INTJ
@ KSpin

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Just fucking dance. Unless you're at some "super hip" club with a bunch of fake-as-all-hell people, no one really gives a fuck about how you dance; granted, if you're good at it, people will respond positively, however almost no one will come up and insult/belittle/make fun of you (to your face at least) if you have questionable skills.

*Plays some evil dnb and does a little dance in cubicle*

Go to a Drum 'n' Bass show, if you don't find yourself breathless and sweating profusely hours later, you might as well be dead.


BOH!!!

i see you speak fluent moron.

listen - if you want to look like a total idiot on the dance floor - go ahead and do it. other's like myself would like to have the skill to blow away the competion. and more so than that, while you think no one is paying attention - if you dance like a fool, people will call you a fool. and with an attitude like yours, people probably have a variety of names they call you. people will never go up to you - instead they will laugh away from you and you will simply be an outcast. but those like you will never notice because you generated your own world view about yourself.

I see (once again) you speak fluent dumb-ass pussy.

You COMPLETELY MISS the point of dancing. Dancing isn't a competition; anyone who's ever really danced knows that. If you think dancing is a competition, you'd might as well call eating competitive, or breathing competitive... Yes, some dance "better" than others; however, anyone who ostracizes another simply for having lower relative skill, doesn't know what dancing is about, and is therefore a dumb-ass pussy.

Fuck anyone who would call anyone a fool for dancing, those people aren't worthy of my attention.

Asking why it's worth the effort (to learn to dance) only further highlights your inherent ineptitude about the matter

some people don't mind looking like fools to others - i personally don't like looking like an idiot. it doesn't have to be a competition, but you shouldn't look like a moron flailing around like your having a seizure, thinking your all that. when in reality people have a totally different opinion.

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

[mike_INTJ]

To talk about competition is probably grounded on the false belief that everyone is watching you.

Dancing results mostly in the opposite; fainting away in the background of people. (unless you're the only one dancing :wink: )

It's just a way of blending in with the rythm of the music.

I think every ILI should learn some safe techniques and they will have more fun when going out...

you would be supprised how many people actually do notice these things - and you would never know it at all by looking at them. dance well, they know, dance poor, they know. and so forth. everyone is critiqued, you just won't know it, always wondering why there are giggles in the halls.

fun is knowing when your competent in something. it's not a matter of moving to a rythm or fitting in - because in general we don't.

[Elro]

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

Could you please elaborate on the ties between intelligence and vulgar language?

[ScarlettLux]

Wow, lol, one thing that does point against me being an ESFp is the fact that reading most of the ILI posts.. *shudders* How could they possibly be my dual? *runs*

[drd252]

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

Could you please elaborate on the ties between intelligence and vulgar language?

Seriously, there's no correlation between intelligence and use of vulgarities; pussy.

[Grek0]

Interesting. I wouldn't say that I faze out when INTps talk. In fact, quite the opposite, because their comments are often incisively accurate. One INTp friend of mine amazes me with the way he can predict what people's next moves will be based on their postures and positioning in a room

Most people are predictable to such a degree that socialising with them is an unrewarding, unstimulating exercise. Where is the fun in socialising with people who act like robots whose limited set of programs you have already come to know by heart, long time ago?

Have you ever played a game that quickly stops being "replayable" because you realise the way it evolves moves along a very limited set of rules which are easily picked up after a while?
This is what most people are like. They are not "replayable" games. You have nothing to learn by socialising with them. They will utter the same commonalities and face you with the same boring chit chat based on the same "rules of engagement" that pretty much everybody else play on.

Give me originality and unconventiality of thought, and I will socialise with you alright

[Jarno]

Interesting. I wouldn't say that I faze out when INTps talk. In fact, quite the opposite, because their comments are often incisively accurate. One INTp friend of mine amazes me with the way he can predict what people's next moves will be based on their postures and positioning in a room

Most people are predictable to such a degree that socialising with them is an unrewarding, unstimulating exercise. Where is the fun in socialising with people who act like robots whose limited set of programs you have already come to know by heart, long time ago?

Have you ever played a game that quickly stops being "replayable" because you realise the way it evolves moves along a very limited set of rules which are easily picked up after a while?
This is what most people are like. They are not "replayable" games. You have nothing to learn by socialising with them. They will utter the same commonalities and face you with the same boring chit chat based on the same "rules of engagement" that pretty much everybody else play on.

Give me originality and unconventiality of thought, and I will socialise with you alright

nice put.

Although socialising can be fun with an intuitive person more then with a sensor, in general.

[olduser]

Interesting. I wouldn't say that I faze out when INTps talk. In fact, quite the opposite, because their comments are often incisively accurate. One INTp friend of mine amazes me with the way he can predict what people's next moves will be based on their postures and positioning in a room

Most people are predictable to such a degree that socialising with them is an unrewarding, unstimulating exercise. Where is the fun in socialising with people who act like robots whose limited set of programs you have already come to know by heart, long time ago?

Have you ever played a game that quickly stops being "replayable" because you realise the way it evolves moves along a very limited set of rules which are easily picked up after a while?
This is what most people are like. They are not "replayable" games. You have nothing to learn by socialising with them. They will utter the same commonalities and face you with the same boring chit chat based on the same "rules of engagement" that pretty much everybody else play on.

Give me originality and unconventiality of thought, and I will socialise with you alright

:] I think I hear this more often than anything else when it comes to socializing.

[KSpin]

Interesting. I wouldn't say that I faze out when INTps talk. In fact, quite the opposite, because their comments are often incisively accurate. One INTp friend of mine amazes me with the way he can predict what people's next moves will be based on their postures and positioning in a room

Most people are predictable to such a degree that socialising with them is an unrewarding, unstimulating exercise. Where is the fun in socialising with people who act like robots whose limited set of programs you have already come to know by heart, long time ago?

Have you ever played a game that quickly stops being "replayable" because you realise the way it evolves moves along a very limited set of rules which are easily picked up after a while?
This is what most people are like. They are not "replayable" games. You have nothing to learn by socialising with them. They will utter the same commonalities and face you with the same boring chit chat based on the same "rules of engagement" that pretty much everybody else play on.

Give me originality and unconventiality of thought, and I will socialise with you alright

nice put.

Although socialising can be fun with an intuitive person more then with a sensor, in general.

I find you can discuss more theoretical things with Intuitive type people, whereas Sensor types will just want to talk about the weather, where you're going on holiday, how work is, etc.

[meatburger]

Most people are predictable to such a degree that socialising with them is an unrewarding, unstimulating exercise. Where is the fun in socialising with people who act like robots whose limited set of programs you have already come to know by heart, long time ago?

Have you ever played a game that quickly stops being "replayable" because you realise the way it evolves moves along a very limited set of rules which are easily picked up after a while?
This is what most people are like. They are not "replayable" games. You have nothing to learn by socialising with them. They will utter the same commonalities and face you with the same boring chit chat based on the same "rules of engagement" that pretty much everybody else play on.

Exactly. Thats why ESFp's and ENFp's get on well with INTp's because we cannot really be predicted very well.

I know an INTp and hes pretty damn cool. His clothes aren't really cool and he wears glasses but he pulls it off brilliantly. He has this aura of self assuredness that i like. Everyone likes him in fact.

[mike_INTJ]

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

Could you please elaborate on the ties between intelligence and vulgar language?

people that can't explain themselves in an articulate way, often curse instead. words they can't think of are usually replaced with expletives. therefore anyone who runs at the mouth in a cursing way, shows a real lack of intelligence.

[mike_INTJ]

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

Could you please elaborate on the ties between intelligence and vulgar language?

Seriously, there's no correlation between intelligence and use of vulgarities; pussy.

uh yeah ok. try that next time your in a library. or talk to a cop or better yet a judge that way. we'll see how smart you look then. you are what you speak.

[Jarno]

cursing is a sign of lack of power.

you curse because don't know of any other way to overcome (=win) the situation your in. (mostly during discussions or fights). It's a strategy used whenever losing has become a possibility.

To conclude, there is an indirect correlation to intelligence, because an "intelligent" person should be able to win a situation/discussion, so cursing wouldn't be an option.

I'm not that well informed about the meaning of vulgar language. It's probably just a habit.

[BLauritson]

Cursing just gives me a way to let off a little bit of steam. Better that than physically damaging something out of frustration IMO. Oh no, I occasionally curse out of habit! That means I must be some stupid being only driven by primal instincts! HOW CAN I LIVE WITH MYSELF???

[Jarno]

i'm sorry, I certainly didn't want to offend you, I was just theorizing a bit about the meaning of cursing etc.

if you curse to let off steam because you rather not fight, that is an ethically good way of dealing with the situation.

[BLauritson]

Don't worry, I'm not offended. I just have a bit of an odd sense of humour, so that was my way of introducing an alternative viewpoint in a way that amused me.

[drd252]

you also show your intelligence by the vulgar language you use.

Could you please elaborate on the ties between intelligence and vulgar language?

Seriously, there's no correlation between intelligence and use of vulgarities; pussy.

uh yeah ok. try that next time your in a library. or talk to a cop or better yet a judge that way. we'll see how smart you look then. you are what you speak.

lmao. I'm pretty sure this isn't a library, or similar public institution. I'm also pretty sure you're not an officer of the law, a judge (and if you are, then, whatever), or any other person who commands respect simply from a title. Therefore, I don't particularly give a fuck if I speak with a certain crudeness, especially to an internet personality such as yourself (the opinions and perceptions of which are entirely irrelevant).

cursing is a sign of lack of power.

you curse because don't know of any other way to overcome (=win) the situation your in. (mostly during discussions or fights). It's a strategy used whenever losing has become a possibility.

To conclude, there is an indirect correlation to intelligence, because an "intelligent" person should be able to win a situation/discussion, so cursing wouldn't be an option.

I'm not that well informed about the meaning of vulgar language. It's probably just a habit.

Bullshit. I curse (in this situation) because it feels right. I started cursing because Mike_INTJ wouldn't admit he is a fucking lame-ass pussy who cant/wont dance. The fact that he's been reduced to critiquing and making unfounded/ludicrous inferences about me in regard to my word usage is utterly hilarious.

people that can't explain themselves in an articulate way, often curse instead. words they can't think of are usually replaced with expletives. therefore anyone who runs at the mouth in a cursing way, shows a real lack of intelligence.

People that can't dance often act like little bitches instead, they can't enjoy themselves at a party, or get laid. Therefore, they try to belittle people over shit that doesn't matter, in order to boost their internet forums ego.

[Warlord]

Haha!

REAL MEN DON'T DANCE!

Being a good dancer is just as much winning, as winning "who looks best in pink pantihose" competition.

[xyz]

I tend to be kind of selective... I don't want to be, but I am... When I get certain feelings about people I'll approach them... but often when people approach me I avoid them... I need to have "the feeling"... if it isn't there I have no reason. I'm also not willing to play some of the games... like sometimes people go through these elaborate collusions and acts that aren't really genuine... and I don't want to play along... unless there's an awareness that we're acting... people try to "come off" as being certain ways, and it can be terribly obvious... so when I see that, I don't really have any interest. When there's awareness it can be very fun... Mostly I know what's going on with people, but I may not feel prompted to connect with them unless I get some kind of feeling about it. Otherwise I just wish them well, and will try to be in a way that promotes a path that is true to oneself. Sometimes I may try to subtly direct others back to themselves, if they seem to be straying. I don't know if it's right that I do that... it's mostly subconscious... Although I relate with what others are feeling, I don't tend to be emotionally expressive myself, and don't tend to provide emotional comfort in any direct way. Anything I do to help is subtle and hard to see. I tend to avoid overly out-going sorts (who often appear obnoxious to me) and there are people who love to turn life into one big drama (apparently) and I steer clear of them as well... There's enough real drama without having to create more. Lastly, some people come off as kind of dangerous (in a bad way... not the exciting way) and currently I avoid those people because I don't know if I have enough strength to deal with such people. I notice them when my "warning bell" goes off... and then I make sure to avoid them... I'm aware that this only promotes the sort of issolation feel of our society... which is pretty isolated since so many people feel lonely even though they're surrounded by other people. There's a real problem there. It's like most people have lost themselves under layers of fakeness. I think I'll stop before I ramble even more. But, yes, I do tend to be distant. I'm friendly and nice... but there's this line that most people can't get past, because past it I start closing myself off. It's odd.

...NAME STOLER.

[reyn_til_runa]

I tend to be kind of selective... I don't want to be, but I am... When I get certain feelings about people I'll approach them... but often when people approach me I avoid them... I need to have "the feeling"... if it isn't there I have no reason. I'm also not willing to play some of the games... like sometimes people go through these elaborate collusions and acts that aren't really genuine... and I don't want to play along... unless there's an awareness that we're acting... people try to "come off" as being certain ways, and it can be terribly obvious... so when I see that, I don't really have any interest. When there's awareness it can be very fun... Mostly I know what's going on with people, but I may not feel prompted to connect with them unless I get some kind of feeling about it. Otherwise I just wish them well, and will try to be in a way that promotes a path that is true to oneself. Sometimes I may try to subtly direct others back to themselves, if they seem to be straying. I don't know if it's right that I do that... it's mostly subconscious... Although I relate with what others are feeling, I don't tend to be emotionally expressive myself, and don't tend to provide emotional comfort in any direct way. Anything I do to help is subtle and hard to see. I tend to avoid overly out-going sorts (who often appear obnoxious to me) and there are people who love to turn life into one big drama (apparently) and I steer clear of them as well... There's enough real drama without having to create more. Lastly, some people come off as kind of dangerous (in a bad way... not the exciting way) and currently I avoid those people because I don't know if I have enough strength to deal with such people. I notice them when my "warning bell" goes off... and then I make sure to avoid them... I'm aware that this only promotes the sort of issolation feel of our society... which is pretty isolated since so many people feel lonely even though they're surrounded by other people. There's a real problem there. It's like most people have lost themselves under layers of fakeness. I think I'll stop before I ramble even more. But, yes, I do tend to be distant. I'm friendly and nice... but there's this line that most people can't get past, because past it I start closing myself off. It's odd.

you are right about the fakeness, yet people would be destroyed pretty quickly if they walked around without masks. you know how after awhile you don't feel your clothes on your body. they become almost like skin. it is the same with masks. we wear them for many different purposes, and it becomes automatic defense. without them, we feel naked and ashamed or simply ineffective. imagine diving into the universe for the purpose of catching a set amt of fishes in a set amt of time, forgetting the clothes, realizing partway through you are naked and ashamed, forgetting the goal, then surfacing with no little fishies and no accurate sense of self. feelings are distracting, especially the ones we tend to hide.

i don't want to care what i wear in front of a person, how i make them feel, how i might have done something better or expressed something more accurately. i don't want to care if i am naked or not. yet people cannot tolerate this lack of inhibition. you see, the least inhibited among us crawl into our hiding places because we know that the slightest glance or touch we receive or deliver may set us off. we are sensitive to people's movements. they touch us, we touch them, but really we only look to see how they are feeling when they are touching and being touched. it is impossible to know for sure. i cannot tell if they are pretending to feel better or worse than they really do. is it possible that i can read their faces for what they represent? we least inhibited ones prefer to be naked, yes, but also alone so we can comfortably finger the lint in our belly buttons.

i steer people to themselves at times too, yet i wonder if i do it in order to keep to myself. occasonally and suddenly, i have outstanding advice for people, much better than from any self help book or therapist i've ever met, and it usually happens to be intended for the people i wish would leave me alone.

it is not that my advice is meant insincerely. it's just that i can't be bothered with living other people's lives, making other people's decisions, etc. i would say that my greatest complaint about socializing with people is that most people, inevitably, expect too much of me. i like to think it's because they are blind, but the truth is probably closer to "i refuse to be seen."

[liveandletlive]

Wow, after reading this whole thread I just wanted to let all you ILI's know that although I'll never really understand all of your issues (we all have them- i dont mean that in a bad way) i just want you all to know that i would kill to have your it's soooo powerful and amazing and great... being I don't know what's coming usually until I just do it and then when something bad happens I'm like "Shit that was stupid"... If I had an INTp around that kind of stuff would never happen.

One thing that interests me is how you guys are able to predict others' moves... can someone give an example of this? I feel like I kinda do it as well but in a different way.

I hope you guys realize that although I'm sure its hard to be sometimes, it's hard to be all functions in their own way...

[BLauritson]

One thing that interests me is how you guys are able to predict others' moves... can someone give an example of this? I feel like I kinda do it as well but in a different way.

This one's quite difficult to explain.. I think the way I do it at least (I don't know if all INTps are the same or not) is that I (usually subconsciously) notice patterns in people's behaviour over time, and so when the pattern begins to repeat itself, I get an intuitive hunch that tells me what they're about to do. It's not the sort of thing I could likely tell someone in advance, it's more a case of "I knew you was going to do that" or "I had a feeling you were about to say that" or something to that extent. I can still do this with people I don't know very well, but that's only using general patterns I see in a lot of people so it's less likely to be accurate than someone I know. I hope that makes sense.

[inumbra]

...NAME STOLER.

Awww, sorry. I just knew there was a reason not to pick that name... j/k. Actually I didn't think it would let me pick it; I thought someone would have had it. Anyway. Whatever.

[liveandletlive]

wow thats crazy... i feel like i do that kind of but in a different way with my + I'm able to see other people's intentions what they want, what they don't want which makes it really easy for us to manipulate others (hence one of the reasons we're known as the politician)... I'm sure you guys could probably use your powers to manipulate as well.... btw, I'm not endorsing manipulation but it can happen... sometimes unconsciously...

I wonder if most psychics are INTp or INFp with the is so powerful..