Dio

[Dioklecian]

which was intended in a very positive way initialy, but that then became less so when Implied did not reply to one of my PMs.

Do you have any idea how clingy this sounds?

Now that you mention it....

[Dioklecian]

Answer this Dio:

Implied's type is ISTJ in my final opinion.

Now come on, Dio....

And I suppose you can explain why?

Expat, as you know I have no wish to convince, simply because I am not very good at it. It took me some excruciating effort to find her type and it even involved some percsonal risks, mainly getting very close to people that share the same type with Implied and typing them.

At the same time Implied promissed to help me develope my discovery but wants to know the actual discovery without bringing anything to the table, and I refused to tell her the discovery in such circumastance, she did nothing. I am being very very kind if I may so myself.

What is this empathy seeking? You expect others to pick up your slack because you repeatedly cannot explain things yourself? Here is a tip for your likely T-related polr: If you cannot explain it simply to others, that may be an indicator that what you are trying to say is not actually true. And even if Dio is an INTj, you have absolutely no understanding of how to check yourself with reality. But you do not strike me as an INTj:

Robesp'er fears tax occasion for the volitional action on itself; therefore sometimes it attempts to appear by man without the weaknesses ("iron Felix"). It does not love, when they play on its weaknesses. Suffer whimperers it cannot, it does not make it possible to pity itself (it does not love cheap ethical it is special effect). Never it makes possible for itself to manifest force with respect to the weak.

NO LII in his right mind would let such a glaring weakness go on continuously. Making the same mistake over and over again, -- the same remarkable inability -- would cause a certain amount of psychological pain to an LII and perhaps to any "NT". So either you are an LII with a problem - a pathological tendency of running away from things - or, you are some other type that has some issues regarding logic.

I never claimed to be INTJ.

[Dioklecian]

So people think he might be IEE? I can't say no to that - creative Fi sometimes looks a bit like Fe. And that would also explain why we ENFps seem to overall like him very much. He comes off as sweet and funny to me. I can't see an INTj coming off that way to me. And he has trouble explaining his though processes, and I certainly have that same problem.

I don't see any Ni at all in Dio. But I'm no expert in Ni so I can't even say that for sure. When he's typing people he jumps from type A to type X (nothing like A), to type B, and then to type W or something. That sounds more like Ne than Ni to me too. Like he's considering every possibility.

That is very accurate IMO

[Dioklecian]

attempting to go by my understanding of the functions --


i could also see a case for INFp if it is to be said that ISTp/ESTj has the tendency to leave from all things uncomfortable and depart from all negative sensations (as opposed to creating strong, postive physical sensations like ESFj/ISFp.) he has stated that he's bugged by people who complain about gross disharmony in their environment, which seems -rejecting to me. so he may very well be a type.

regarding him making typings and backing them up with or "just trust me." seems very anti-Te. he doesn't seem to like it when people ask him to assert his typings. some of the types that are most likely to demand logical evidence are who?

ESTjs like to ask questions and find out facts. They do not accept foggy answers, demanding concrete data.

so maybe that isn't a poor argument for -polr.


and i agree with eunice on the mikemex similarities, what with the scientific discoveries and all.


anyhow, i'm about to die of laughter over here so please someone substantiate/agree/disagree with me. dio is the next mikemex <3.

Where was that?

The rest of the post is inaccurate iMO.

[Dioklecian]

Rereading what I quoted in the above post, it could be seen as dual seeking on Dio's part.

It could indeed.

That is one manifestation of Si dual-seeking in some ENFps (perhaps strong intuitive subtypes) -- "I am the big-ideas person, it's your job to help me with details".

I don't really have big ideas unfortunatelt, they tend to be little, but very significant, discoveries.

[Dioklecian]

Further thoughts --

Dio reads a lot, he's interested in a lot of things. He likes to "type by quotes", listing lots of quotes but never really explaining why those quotes suggest any specific type. He gets information but does not really analyze it (that I can see).

He's interested in personal relationships and insecure in them at the same time. He also seems to often post what just happens to cross his mind, which varies considerably.

I think ENFp is a good possibility.

I agree with these observations about 90%.

[Dioklecian]

After reading type and function descriptions, when first reading his posts on this forum, I never thought he was an INTp like he claimed to be. The thing that hit me about him after reading several dozen of his posts is that he might have some type of T PoLR, as UDP mentioned. He seems afraid of making himself vulnerable to people emotionally, as from his post in the Implied typing thread, mentioning that he felt he put himself at risk to assess other people's types, and his responses in his thread about being taken advantage of by people. There was another thread where he asked people how to avoid conflict, and how he felt he was being specifically targeted by other people to be ordered and bossed around, giving the example how he felt a computer lab personnel unfairly told him to turn down his headphone volume. Could all of this be indication of a weak ?

Delta NF seems plausible, although he seems to complain more about people taking advantage of him and exerting power over him rather than about how he can't understand anything rather than his inability to explain himself or understand what people are implying. I know I am jumping to conclusions, but his weak is probably manifested as a role rather than PoLR since the way he writes, it seems he believes that his problems with are something that haunts his existence all the time, something he can't avoid whatever he does.

This seems very very accurate to me. However, those are all learned behaviours. It is true that my Se is weak and I am ina position to strengthen it for social reasons. The society in whih I live is INFJ.

[Dioklecian]

Dio reminds me of E.T., if that's any help.

That's one of my best pics

[Exodus]

13 POSTS IN A ROW.

Dio, you're quite a unique individual.

[Dioklecian]

I know, that's what evryone around me thinks

(they want me to get the hell off my butt , which I will do in 15 minutes)

[Subteigh]

Dio is certainly exceptional, which is part of the reason he is difficult to type. I can see a similarity with the humanoid known as XoX though....

[UDP]

Especially based on your VI and the rest of this thread, ENFp seems like the current top type for you.


@ above post: they are both ENFp, are they not?

[Dioklecian]

I really don't think that I am ENFP, what you see is mainly the influence of the lovely ENFps around me

[Subteigh]

Especially based on your VI and the rest of this thread, ENFp seems like the current top type for you.


@ above post: they are both ENFp, are they not?

(That has been my opinion on XoX for a while now...Dio in the last few days as a result of the relevant posts - I don't really have any supporting evidence apart from a hunch. I think INFp is a possibility too, but to a lesser degree than my hunch ).

^ Ignore post

Reason: grossly misinformed

[UDP]

I really don't think that I am ENFP, what you see is mainly the influence of the lovely ENFps around me

Then what type do you think you are?

[Expat]

Further thoughts --

Dio reads a lot, he's interested in a lot of things. He likes to "type by quotes", listing lots of quotes but never really explaining why those quotes suggest any specific type. He gets information but does not really analyze it (that I can see).

He's interested in personal relationships and insecure in them at the same time. He also seems to often post what just happens to cross his mind, which varies considerably.

I think ENFp is a good possibility.

I agree with these observations about 90%.

And yet you don't see the case for ENFp and you think you are INTp?

[leckysupport]

I think this is the perfect example of Delta NF attention seeking.

[implied]

Where was that?

The rest of the post is inaccurate iMO.

i actually think it was in personal correspondence with you and now i'm embarrassed that i've used it as an example -- at any rate, i remember it seemed like a really anti- statement to me although i know a lot of types who are very clean/picky about their surroundings, too (ISFj apparently can be like this.)

i just find it really hard to see you as an introvert of any sort, very sorry!

[Dioklecian]

Where was that?

The rest of the post is inaccurate iMO.

i actually think it was in personal correspondence with you and now i'm embarrassed that i've used it as an example -- at any rate, i remember it seemed like a really anti- statement to me although i know a lot of types who are very clean/picky about their surroundings, too (ISFj apparently can be like this.)

i just find it really hard to see you as an introvert of any sort, very sorry!

Tha's because we are communicating over the internet, if you met in me person I told you thatsometimes I sit in a desk for 10 hours NON-stop (not even bathroom brakes), you might change your opinion

[Dioklecian]

I think this is the perfect example of Delta NF attention seeking.

I agree that that is ENFPs' doing.

Once in boarding school an ENFP hacked into the school email system and sent around emails as if they came from the Director of Academic Studies (sort of a vice principal), he would send things like "Come to my office at 5 pm to have sex", and stufff like that. It got hilarious until one of the idiots who received the message hit the "Reply" button and the Director of Studies got a message too. She was ESFJ and the ENFP got expelled. But no prob, he was some kind of nebel from Norway.