He looks Delta ST. Also, Gojira's lyrical themes strike me as being pretty damn Delta, too. They're kind of notable for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
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He looks Delta ST. Also, Gojira's lyrical themes strike me as being pretty damn Delta, too. They're kind of notable for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
You could be right. A lot of their music centers around nature and preservation of the earth, which is for some reason or another a Delta feature, but I just don't usually think of Delta music as dealing with as much abstraction as you get from Gojira. The lyrical content of songs such as Oroborus, Vacuity, Mouth of Kala, Wolf Down the Earth, etc. really feel Ni-ish to me over Si or even Te. I generally expect Delta metal to look something more like Man Must Die or maybe Warbringer. Very straight-forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narc
Mastodon is a majority (or entirely) Delta band and I wouldn't call them straightforward. The songs just ooze a Ne sort of frenetic style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
That's true. I can definitely see that for Mastodon. I wouldn't call Gojira frenetic, but I get your point.
I agree with Gojira not being frenetic. They're almost completely groove-oriented, was just pointing out that Delta tunes aren't necessarily always straightforward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
I think the kinds of things that DJ Basilisk releases on Ektoplazm as Progressive/Zenonesque (and most of the Zenonesque) is stereotypically :Te:/:Ni: music. It's very cerebral and introverted, the sort of thing that only has the substance you bring to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQB...7uewwQjscIHzia
Chiming in...
The Beatles
Freddie Mercury ESFP
Bob Dylan ISFJ
Prince ESFP
Elvis Presley ESFP
Pink Floyd
Radiohead (Thom Yorke INTP?)
No Age, experimental punk band.
Vocalist/drummer is ILI
Guitarist is SEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn84clPVbG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGacOmfBvQ
Do you think she is SEE? I figured some sort of Fi creative when I watched her on The Voice. Her boyfriend (or husband?) looks gamma to me too.
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Originally Posted by Contra
She's one of the most obvious SEEs ..she bounces between very "hot and lively" music and a tinge of sentimentality.
Yeah, I figured SEE>IEE. I only considered IEE because she seemed a little timid as a judge on the Voice, but I think that has to do with her being just generally bad at forming opinions on who would or wouldn't be a good performer in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solaris
I think Mac Demarco is SEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RheJW2nhkb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9jhG963no
the shit above is Alpha or parodic Beta.
ESI sp/sx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1MhXiUDVg
Vince Staples- LIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjoE2jNAD7U
Earl Sweatshirt- ESI, some say LSI so maybe he shouldn't be here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCbWLSZrZfw
Se-creative music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmxVCM39j4
I think Hozier is ESI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYSVMgRr6pw
He looks Beta NF and the whole show put up in this particular song reminds me of said quadra.
I mean ...where's the Se.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/94...b/p01w7t4k.jpg
hah, well, I don't know. It's one picture. I do agree he definitely looks IEI there. I just know of the interviews I've seen I didn't get the Beta NF vibe. I'm not even saying he isn't IEI, but it just seems like a snap judgment. Like, I wouldn't rule out EII, ESI, or IEI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agni
Edit: Eh, fuck it. He probably is IEI, but still not 100% on that..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KckDTonKr5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwfgXD8qV8
Look at her Katy! [She is a person too.] You had lost your faith! I "see" that Arizona green [with envy] tea!
Now go and have some ice cream on us. :love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
Again, there is no reason to become an SEE chameleon in order to eat black/"black" people! Your duality partner is ILI, not SLI. Both are Te :Te: darklings, and that has nothing to do with their skin color :Se:! Therefore, you were being irrationally :Se: judgmental.
An ILI will have the sexual :Ni: treasure map that you're looking for!
*Katy Perry finally snaps out of it*
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Originally Posted by Lucy In The Sky
Therefore, The Tea Party is jealous with envy [green] of British white/"white" power [but then who likes a Brit brat?!] and full of irrational hatred against colored/"colored" people due to their own combination of :Se::Te: or :Te::Se: darkness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy In The Sky
Now... it's time for The Grand Finale!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnRcDtMniVE
Alas...
The [Melting] Pot is in fact calling the [English] Kettle black!
The Haxan Cloak- ILI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqIdxU0Q4uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhhdnegHSA
"Perfectionist? That's not something I am." Mac Damaro. Think about it.
I agree that system of a down is gamma
I'm lovin this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pKrVB5f2W0
ALL THESE AND THE ABOVE WERE TYPED ESI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quh-7OEyHMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Uwu5GR3eI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmN9rZW0HGo
don't love this but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODXZfQCSkU[/video]
(i think i detect a hint of dubstep/don't necesarily love this one but nevertheless)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=EsGiBwK4Ycc
don't love this one either but w/e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcWDZPxpZ-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaeoz_7cyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6fVhYTRVp8
last but strangest in the ESI category:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF2lZesYZo0
LIE music thread (these are credited to vicky santel in the facebook gamma duality groups.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ92eyxnxmQ
i don't personally think this one qualifies but who am i to judge lol (if not an fi ego then who else)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rB3Pvx-a4E
hmm looks like LIE needs some help in the music department
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoTFnvpSz7g
ILI
;') i wuv zis one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njPFQXVXTx4
not my favv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loVwkhzriGg
yesssssss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruc0TnSSi9Y
This is SEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFx3WX4DES0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26hsZqwveA
some just need omitted like this one (poof nothings here)
next (probably should have omitted this as well)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvV1eYRKRNY
okay this one is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yx1nwtc-Rc
I actually prefer this one as esi but alas its name is SEE, the reason i don't know (don't care, here it is)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCya1yiFFP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M491t7LaRiA
(love)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7JyzM7HVw
five finger death punch is pretty gamma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
I'm pretty sure they're alpha. Serj is a clear alpha NT. Daron Malakian is probably ESE if I remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by carrina
their newest music is very gamma. their "hollywood" song is very Ne polr. etc etc. the songs are very gamma. the people themselves are not. and um... "if you remember correctly" so you aren't doing the typing yourself, may not remember, but you're arguing with me?.. uh.. ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
anyway take a look at the album that the "hollywood" song is on. those songs are all almost exlusively gamma. there is also an EIE in that group. the one wearing eye liner.
"Trying to build a prison" is also Ne polr music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJi-W9o7uU
please be aware i'm not typing the group. i'm typing this song.
this on the other hand might be something entirely different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyzYbqRuFE
I'm gonna go with Se lead for sure.
I type the whole album "mezmurize" as gamma. but the album right before might be way to loud for gamma. could be Beta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI2VbHHRyts
Their newer stuff was more spiritual and, I suppose, stayed political, if you are talking about Hypnotize and Mezmerize (which you are). The albums sort of tied in the real world to something more abstract. I don't see either element as being proprietary to Gamma, but if you are going to relate any of their albums to specific quadras I could see how you might say those two are their most Gamma, in a sense, esp. mezmerize. A lot of their music they leave up to interpretation, and it's easy to see any number of quadra values in a piece of art, so I don't tend to type music based on the values supposedly therein. I can easily see Alpha values in their albums as well as Gamma, but they do tend to have the revolutionary Alpha vibe to their music. That vibe was just a bit toned down on the double album.Quote:
Originally Posted by carrina
Edit: actually I shouldn't say the revolutionary vibe was toned down. It was just crowded out with more elements.
That does not mean I didn't do the typing myself. It means that it's been a while since I've watched their interviews and actually bothered thinking about their type. I've revisited their typings and Serj is definitely still closer to LII than anything else. I could see a few typings for Daron. I was only saying I may not remember for Daron's type so, yes, I am arguing with you.Quote:
"if you remember correctly" so you aren't doing the typing yourself, may not remember, but you're arguing with me?.. uh.. ok
I know that album. It's Mezmerize. Not really seeing Daron as EIE, but I don't have a clear typing for him at the moment so whatever.Quote:
anyway take a look at the album that the "hollywood" song is on. those songs are all almost exlusively gamma. there is also an EIE in that group. the one wearing eye liner.
@Contra thx for clarification.
two of the guys wearing eye liner. the one who i'm talking about is obviously EIE. check it out some time and let me know what you think later on
I was completely unaware that alpha had anything revolutionary in their values but okQuote:
Originally Posted by Contra
One more thing which i didn't clarify. there were a few albums before hand that i meant to point out that are much less gamma. or i would say arent gamma at all.
" A lot of their music they leave up to interpretation, and it's easy to see any number of quadra values in a piece of art, so I don't tend to type music based on the values supposedly therein. I can easily see Alpha values in their albums as well as Gamma, but they do tend to have the revolutionary Alpha vibe to their music"
basically none of this makes any sense, just so you know.
It really isn't that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by carrina
SOAD have said in the past they don't want to explain the meaning of their songs and they would rather have their fans install their own meaning behind them. Unless its extremely explicit i could easily pull a number of quadra values from any given song, even ones they didn't intend. Who is to say Lost in Hollywood (the song you were talking about) has anything to do with Ne polr (not a quadra value but it's the same idea)? I could pull more than just Ne polr from that song and just because I can pull Ne polr doesn't make it Beta-Gamma.
After everything you've thrown into this thread, it's weird you're hung up over one objection.
Linkin Park, Mike Shinoda is an ILI-Te.
Mars Volta, Omar Rodriguez Lopez is an ILI-Ni.
My music, here is a song: https://youtu.be/POkMhKa4uow
First of all, here are some more gamma rules.
Because we support the advancement and sustainment of society and gotta contribute to society, we have GOT TO support anti-piracy by singing acoustic versions of songs that are inferior to the real versions (even if our voices are superior we have to make it inferior on purpose just like Candy Crush Saga, it helps us problem solve!!!) and solve the problem of piracy by uploading our inferior versions to encourage people to buy the real versions.
Take that pirates!
Arr me mateys.
eyyyyy. i posted this on my fb a few days ago and thought to myself it was kinda gamma and then noticed the couple ppl who liked it were gammas.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJay
Heard the song in the infamous episode 1 of American Horror Story: Hotel, featuring Lady Gaga. It sort of stuck with me and I thought "gamma" as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by lungs
I always thought of this song as the theme of SEE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm65mMxE9L0&list=PLgbI0QcBNn5isOvlIN0r RK9Y 6bSQdheii&index=13
no
I love this song :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lungs
SEE music:halo::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJWk_KNbDHo
My new fav
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwn-IDTsrRg
Kraftwerk - Pocket Calculator (ILI)
Because they're dorks.
It's so weird how I have never heard of most of the music in this thread. Each quadras must look for different kind of information.
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Originally Posted by Singularity
Could also be LII. :shrug:
I don't know, but an ILI really loved Kraftwerk and those like Kraftwerk. I kinda like them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by chips and underwear
So do I.Quote:
Originally Posted by Singularity
I'm just thinking for some reason an LII would be more likely to title a song 'pocket calculator'
Aha, finally I've found the most Gamma song...
Another classic Gamma song:Quote:
"Computer World" - Kraftwerk
Business, Numbers
Money, People
Business, Numbers
Money, People
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"Work Bitch" - Britney Spears
You better work bitch [4x]
Now get to work bitch
(ahhhh)
Now get to work bitch
(ahhhh)
ESI so/sp 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMK_npDG12Q
Same as above, appealing to LIE's DS :Fi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBiaRBUjUs
If there's a need to differentiate between ESI and SEi just compare this Björk's content. They look very similar but it is entirely different in terms of content.Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
How do you tell the difference between SEI and IEI?Quote:
Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale
@silke, This is an amazing video. I never saw Lorde before, but in this video she is displaying almost every trait that I have observed separately in many individual ESI's. Her ESI face, the little-girl voice that sounds both pleading and accusatory, and the lyrics that are so Fi. I am both attracted by her sensuality and alarmed by her instability. I think she has gone too long without a stable influence. Lol. Step back, Adam.Quote:
Originally Posted by silke
"I know what you did and I want to scream the truth" - Lorde
“I saw what you did (and who you really are)...and even though it's crazy, inappropriate and unacceptable....I still accept you entirely.” - wacey, speaking on how ESI's view LIE's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8M6EaKJTPY
Abracadabra - Brown Eyed Girls (Dance Version) - Gamma?
this music is infused with Ni, probably more Gamma than Beta, has this 'godspeed you black emperor' feel to it
Syndrome "Absence"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNVp0wwfTnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHRYlVAq20M