Your opinion on these traits
She talks about how smart her kids are, and how creative her past boyfriends are, and about how she is bright but her son is *really* bright because he tutors kids in physics and math for free. (?)
lol so I noticed some things that recurred
1) talking as if she was a repository of knowledge that she needed to make sure the other person knew about "i don't know if you know this, but..." She was a teacher at a high school and everything she said had an aspect of "should". Many of her statements were assessing some evaluation of the student with reasoning that I couldn't really follow (like the statement about her son, and also a story about one of her students who she thought was extremely bright because he knew financial terms-- i guess other students didnt). She talked about details that seemed to show a concern for status (stressing that she had been proposed to many times when talking about divorce, stressing that she wanted to go to a higher ranked school when she talked about where she actually did go to school).
2) "people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
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Ok well my assessment of her type is below, i'll leave a space if that biases you
She seemed to be paranoid about appearing smart, which I thought seemed like a T role function. her attitude as being conscious of herself as a repository of knowledge (not simply being one) seemed Ixxj, or I at least. Her descriptions of creativity are indicative of someone who is not understanding that area and is only left with the word "creative" or to call creativity insanity.. this indicates strong S preference to me.
Does she sound ISFj? I am not sure what was bothering me more.. I think it was the Se though if she is ISFj.
Re: Your opinion on these traits
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Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
She talks about how smart her kids are, and how creative her past boyfriends are, and about how she is bright but her son is *really* bright because he tutors kids in physics and math for free. (?)
lol so I noticed some things that recurred
1) talking as if she was a repository of knowledge that she needed to make sure the other person knew about "i don't know if you know this, but..." She was a teacher at a high school and everything she said had an aspect of "should". Many of her statements were assessing some evaluation of the student with reasoning that I couldn't really follow (like the statement about her son, and also a story about one of her students who she thought was extremely bright because he knew financial terms-- i guess other students didnt). She talked about details that seemed to show a concern for status (stressing that she had been proposed to many times when talking about divorce, stressing that she wanted to go to a higher ranked school when she talked about where she actually did go to school).
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Say no more - ESFj!
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Hmm, how can I explain it?
OK. Consider this:
Fe - social
Si - norms (ok, I'm straying from traditional socionics - but the interpretation is valid here; I won't get into it now)
HA of ESFj: Ne^, to be perfect ...
If any type is tempted to brag about the "brilliant accomplishments" of people they know according to collective norms, especially to boost their own sense of self-importance and social affluence, it's the ESFj. I've known several - and funny enough, each one demonstrated this tendency to some degree or another, well beyond the norm. An ESFj probably invented the honor roll student/et al bumper sticker (which, incidentally, would appeal to a lot of ENFps, too, but for simpler, sincere, personal reasons - i.e., just praising and appreciating their kid.)
^ Corrected
Re: Your opinion on these traits
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Originally Posted by astralsilky
HA of ESFj: Ni, to be perfect ...
:Ni: is PoLR for ESFj. ESFj's hidden agenda is :Ne:.
Re: Your opinion on these traits
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Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
2) "people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
"people who are artsy fartsy often have mental problems"
i have a lot of problems seeing that as ENFj, not sure why.
i generally agree with ESFj. i could sort of see ENFj.
i like astralsilky's explanation. :lol: i do find ISFps and ESFjs to be either super critical or super praising as well.