What type does this list of features describe?
Here is a list of features. What type do you think it most accurately describes? You can choose more than one type if you see the list describing common features from several types. If you think it doesn't accurately define any type then choose the one (or ones) which are closest. If you want to please explain your choice in "layman" or socionics terms.
Features:
- Detached from environment
- Detached from physical body
- Very self-critical and requires competence from self in subjects of interest
- Rarely achieves refined competence because jumps to new subjects after "reasonable" level is achieved
- Not self-critical in subjects of uninterest (i.e. doesn't care about outside pressure in this)
- Automatic resistance if being forced
- I.e. Must be given a chance to reach an independent decision, approving or rejecting an action (or will resist)
- Makes speculative, controversial arguments which seem serious even if they really are not
- In the end is unsure whether he really stands by his argument but even if not there is likely an intuitive sense that the core of truth is there
- In efforts it is all or nothing. There is no half-work. There is full effort or no effort.
- Dislikes restrictions of teamwork and co-operation
- Main source of humor is taking things out of context
- Humor can be zany and warped and hard to understand
- Humor can be black and tactless
- Dislikes having lives planned (here I must say I have all kinds of processes in place which guide my life)
- Feels unease before most fixed appointments and cannot fully relax until event is over or at least in progress
- The even itself is, however, rarely as bad as the imagined picture of it was and actually brings satisfaction
- Never joyfully anticipates a social event
- Skeptical and mistrusting of people
- Dislike making the first move
- Mirror emotional content of other person
- Resembles a chameleon
- Can argue something he doesn't believe himself for intellectual stimulation or challenge or to avoid early conflict
- One to one conversation is preferred over group situation
- In group situation are sensitive to whether they are listened to or not
Re: What type does this list of features describe?
Features:
- Detached from environment
N
- Detached from physical body
N
- Very self-critical and requires competence from self in subjects of interest
not type related
- Rarely achieves refined competence because jumps to new subjects after "reasonable" level is achieved
p or E
- Not self-critical in subjects of uninterest (i.e. doesn't care about outside pressure in this)
not type related
- Automatic resistance if being forced
there have fairly recently been a number of threads regarding force, demands, and expectations. Not type related
- I.e. Must be given a chance to reach an independent decision, approving or rejecting an action (or will resist)
not type related
- Makes speculative, controversial arguments which seem serious even if they really are not
not particularly type related, I've seen SFps do this as well as NTs, and NFs, quite probably based on previous experience of this type of argument tactic/strategy
- In the end is unsure whether he really stands by his argument but even if not there is likely an intuitive sense that the core of truth is there
not particularly type related, see above
- In efforts it is all or nothing. There is no half-work. There is full effort or no effort.
i can see most people believing they are all or nothing with no half-jobs.....obsessive compulsive?...dunno really. but i would think that a person who is full effort or no effort wouldn't write half way posts because he doesn't have enough time to respond at the moment, i would think that he would instead prefer to think about what he is going to write in response, making the communication as clear and precise as possible. a half-worked paper is still half an effort.
- Dislikes restrictions of teamwork and co-operation
i'd have said Fe/Ti, but some Ti's have refuted the concept, I'd have then suggested maybe dynamic, but some gamma dynamics have refuted the concept, so, i dunno anymore. Seems kind of odd though that a person who was just involved in promoting the concept of teamwork would the next day claim to dislike restrictions of teamwork
- Main source of humor is taking things out of context
N
- Humor can be zany and warped and hard to understand
N
- Humor can be black and tactless
N, T not necessarily together. The istp I knew had black and tactless humor. I've also known estps, istjs, various nts, infps and an infj to have black and tactless humor.
- Dislikes having lives planned (here I must say I have all kinds of processes in place which guide my life)
see comment about feeling forced description
- Feels unease before most fixed appointments and cannot fully relax until event is over or at least in progress
any typethat is anticipating anything and is unsure of outcome
- The even itself is, however, rarely as bad as the imagined picture of it was and actually brings satisfaction
see above
- Never joyfully anticipates a social event
never? even introverts have been known to like some types of social events, what type of social event? even a date? a marriage? a child's birth?
- Skeptical and mistrusting of people
any type, dependent upon previous experiences even as a child
- Dislike making the first move
role-informative
- Mirror emotional content of other person
depends on what you mean, mirror as in smiles when those around smiles, attempts to laugh when others laugh, looks withdrawn when others are withdrawn/sad...someone of any type that is unsure of how to be or may be trying to make a good impression; mirror as in feels happy when those around are happy, feels agitated when those around are agitated, feels sad when those around are sad...could be anytype, really depends upon the situation
- Resembles a chameleon
see comment above as I think the chameleon is referencing the description above
- Can argue something he doesn't believe himself for intellectual stimulation or challenge or to avoid early conflict
entps, estps, infps, intps and rocky (is he istp or istj?)
- One to one conversation is preferred over group situation
depends upon the circumstances, enfps, infps, infjs, esfps, isfp, entp, intj, istj, entj, intp have all been known to prefer one-to-one conversations over group situations. again, it seems kind of odd that a promoter of teamspirit would prefer one-to-one over group situations...though I guess i could see it's possibility
- In group situation are sensitive to whether they are listened to or not
tough one, i think any person regardless of type would like to have some kind of acknowledgement of their input, preferably validating the worth of their input, otherwise why stay in that group?
Re: What type does this list of features describe?
Huh?:
- Detached from environment
- Detached from physical body
- Resembles a chameleon
Not type-related:
- Very self-critical and requires competence from self in subjects of interest
- Not self-critical in subjects of uninterest (i.e. doesn't care about outside pressure in this)
- Main source of humor is taking things out of context
- Dislikes having lives planned (here I must say I have all kinds of processes in place which guide my life)
- In group situation are sensitive to whether they are listened to or not
F:
- Mirror emotional content of other person
Ep:
- Rarely achieves refined competence because jumps to new subjects after "reasonable" level is achieved
These point away from Si-ego types:
- Automatic resistance if being forced
- I.e. Must be given a chance to reach an independent decision, approving or rejecting an action (or will resist)
N:
- Makes speculative, controversial arguments which seem serious even if they really are not
- Can argue something he doesn't believe himself for intellectual stimulation or challenge or to avoid early conflict
NF:
- In the end is unsure whether he really stands by his argument but even if not there is likely an intuitive sense that the core of truth is there
Se:
- In efforts it is all or nothing. There is no half-work. There is full effort or no effort.
Ip:
- Dislikes restrictions of teamwork and co-operation
NT:
- Humor can be zany and warped and hard to understand
INTp:
- Humor can be black and tactless
IT:
- Feels unease before most fixed appointments and cannot fully relax until event is over or at least in progress
- The even itself is, however, rarely as bad as the imagined picture of it was and actually brings satisfaction
- Never joyfully anticipates a social event
- Skeptical and mistrusting of people
- Dislike making the first move
I:
- One to one conversation is preferred over group situation
Basically what niffweed said: it's mostly fluff. I do NOT think this will help you find your type.
Re: What type does this list of features describe?
Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Basically what niffweed said: it's mostly fluff. I do NOT think this will help you find your type.
agree wholeheartedly with both of you. :lol:
Re: What type does this list of features describe?
Quote:
Originally Posted by XoX
Features:
X- Detached from environment
X- Detached from physical body
- Very self-critical and requires competence from self in subjects of interest
- Rarely achieves refined competence because jumps to new subjects after "reasonable" level is achieved
- Not self-critical in subjects of uninterest (i.e. doesn't care about outside pressure in this)
- Automatic resistance if being forced
- I.e. Must be given a chance to reach an independent decision, approving or rejecting an action (or will resist)
- Makes speculative, controversial arguments which seem serious even if they really are not
- In the end is unsure whether he really stands by his argument but even if not there is likely an intuitive sense that the core of truth is there
X- In efforts it is all or nothing. There is no half-work. There is full effort or no effort.
- Dislikes restrictions of teamwork and co-operation
- Main source of humor is taking things out of context
- Humor can be zany and warped and hard to understand
- Humor can be black and tactless
- Dislikes having lives planned (here I must say I have all kinds of processes in place which guide my life)
- Feels unease before most fixed appointments and cannot fully relax until event is over or at least in progress
- The even itself is, however, rarely as bad as the imagined picture of it was and actually brings satisfaction
X- Never joyfully anticipates a social event
- Skeptical and mistrusting of people
- Dislike making the first move
X- Mirror emotional content of other person
(Huh?)- Resembles a chameleon
- Can argue something he doesn't believe himself for intellectual stimulation or challenge or to avoid early conflict
- One to one conversation is preferred over group situation
- In group situation are sensitive to whether they are listened to or not
That by which there is an X I feel doesn't apply to me. And there's also the one (Huh?) by the chameleon statement because I can't figure out what that's supposed to mean, unless it's meant to describe people with four feet, a tail of reasonable length, and some serious peripheral vision, but I don't think that would be the right interpretation.
If it helps, I feel the ENFp type fits me best (although I can identify with several other descriptions to some extent). However, I'm also becoming more and more convinced that the efficacy of socionics is an illusion and there's no true value to it.