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Who among my gamma brothers and sisters watches Stargate:SG1? And if you do, don't you find O'Neill (Richard Dean Anderson) to be absolutely hilarious? I was compelled to posit the question after viewing episode 1 of season 9; I found his performance particularly hilarious at about 18mins. I love this show.
DISCUSS!
Also, Firefly is badass.
But Battlestar Galactica rules over all!
Firefly seems to be the favorite show of ESTjs from what I observed.Quote:
Originally Posted by drd252
Me and my INTp honey watch a lot of those series. Stargate SG1, Stargate Atlantis, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, Andromeda, Over there, Noir, Trigun, Black Lagoon, Utawarerumono, Last Exile, My name is Earl (<3!!!), etc. You know what you'd really really love? New series "Hero". It's totally kickass! I have seen half a season and it's just soooo good.
I watch none of that stuff. Got bored with TV sci-fi a while ago. The last one I made a point of watching regularly was the new The Outer Limits.
Are you sure you don't mean "Heros"? I've seen the pilot, it was pretty good. It's really hard for me to follow TV shows because I don't watch it consistently; that's why I love NetFlix!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristiina
Expat, you should totally watch Battlestar Galactica, it's unbelievably good.
And every episode can be found here for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by drd252
Totally awesome!!! I need to catch up on season 3; I've already ripped/burned seasons 1, 2, and 2.5 (I love NetFlix!).Quote:
Originally Posted by science as magic
You seem way too excitable to be intp heh
Yeah, this whole socionics/typing thing is kinda frustrating. I thought I was an INTj for the longest time, but I do act more like an INTp, unless I'm at a party or online, then I tend to act more extroverted.
I dont know :8*
i tend to act entpish in social settings or perhaps esxpish. i actively try not to act "intj" generally but I think that is generally descriptive of my "world view"
ugh... did you like it? I mean it was entertaining but IMO there was always something missing... some intangable thing... sometimes it was the acting, sometimes the writting, most the time it was just a vague.... this is really crappy sort of feeling. (sorry if that was your favorite show or something)Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat
I'm not Gamma but I love pretty much all scifi... I eat the shit up. It's not really scifi but it's on the scifi channel now- Dead Like Me. Anyone else watch this? it's a great show :)
I was easily excited here as well originally. But I didn't really know who I was then, especially at that time, the beginning of figuring myself out.Quote:
Originally Posted by science as magic
That is not typically ILI, and I was going to say that as well. But I think Expat said it well recently, about how people sometimes modify themselves traits that are different from their true selves.
My study of socionics has largely been finding out who I am. Socionics isn't a perfect model of course, but understanding helps a lot for me.
I liked the original series; the new one was ok but far from being my favorite show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
I agree... the original was good. But of the same format I thought the original Twightlight Zone and Night Gallery were far superiorQuote:
Originally Posted by Expat
I can act pretty extroverted in social settings, the only conditions being that I have a lot of energy at the time and it's with people I know well. I myself used to wonder whether or not I was an extrovert, but I think the best thing to remember is that being an introvert doesn't necessarily mean being reserved all of the time. If you're driven to be in social settings (online or offline) for most of your free time, chances are you'd be an extrovert, but if you prefer to spend more time on your own, even if just to recharge your energy, then chances are you'd be an introvert.Quote:
Originally Posted by drd252
I dunno, I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it at least.
Twilight Zone -- I think the quality varied wildly. When it was good it was very good, sometimes it was silly, and a large part was mediocre. Night Gallery was inferior mostly, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
To this day I still think that The Outer Limits' Demon with a Glass Hand was a masterpiece.
one of these days I'll get you to agree with me on something... anything... and on that day the world shall end :lol:
The Twilight Zone is amazing. *shivers* My favorite is probably Five Characters In Search Of An Exit.
yeah, NBC: "Heroes".Quote:
Originally Posted by drd252
http://www.parazz.com/photos/34144172185_9771.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5U8a1MnGUs
I've got goosebumps! I REALLY want to see the next episode! It totally rules!!!!
Yeah, the new base commander is no O'Neill. The new changes as a whole are kinda weird; the Goa'uld and Replicators are gone all-of-a-sudden, and the Lucian Alliance and the Ori are the new bad guys? I guess it doesn't really matter, it's going to be over this season :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Isha
yeah it got kinda weird when they started putting Farscape actors on (another great SF show!)... but you get to see Inara from Firefly again! she's hot!Quote:
Originally Posted by drd252
Blow, Scarface, The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction (maybe Beta?), Gladiator, Forrest Gump
Themes: money, family, isolation, personal acheivment, relationships between two individuals, revenge
List more.
The Graduate
The Matrix (maybe Delta)
Sideways
Harold and Maude
21 Grams
Akira
The Insider
Identity
Lolita
Rabbit-Proof Fence
War of the Worlds
Not sure about the Matrix. I tried to place it, but I can't.
It has universal appeal, I think, but the themes and characters seem Fi-valuing. Agent Smith is obviously some Ti type, for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
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Originally Posted by Agent Smith
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Neo: Yeah. That sounds like a really good deal. But I got a better one. How about... I give you the finger... and you give me my phone call?
Agent Smith: Mr. Anderson... you disappoint me.
Neo: You can't scare me with this Gestapo crap. I know my rights. I want my phone call.
Agent Smith: Tell me, Mr. Anderson... what good is a phone call... if you're unable to speak?
Lieutenant: I think we can handle one little girl. I sent two units, they're bringing her down now.
Agent Smith: No lieutenant, your men are already dead.
Actually I think it's Delta.
Yeah, Delta could work. Aristocracy seems like a pretty constant theme, IMO: it's all about two large "factions" going up against one another, which usually spells Beta/Delta to me.
Oh, and Smith is totally LSI, although that first block of quotation you posted is pretty heavily :Ne: (although the fact that it took him so long to perform that kind of analysis would make Ne PoLR make sense).
Yes, and Cypher ESTp, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
This is what I mean about the characters' types defining the message of the movie: some characters (along with their values) are portrayed positively and others negatively.
Cypher is ILE all the way.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
I don't see any :Se:. He also doesn't seem to have much invested in the whole "team spirit" idea.
I don't like most of those films you've mentioned. Too boring.
Forrest Gump, War of the Worlds, and The Matrix (although the first film was a lot, lot better than the other two). Those are the only ones I enjoyed, if I've even tried watching the others.
the Rocky films
Heavy Metal (1981)
Batman Begins
Wuthering Heights
Heavy Metal? that seems totally alpha
On the surface, yes -- but the connecting theme of the movie, as made clear in the Taarna episode (which is sheer Gamma), is Gamma I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond8
really? what's gamma about it?
Self-sacrifice for the purpose of revenge and destroying an enemy (the Loc-Nar), and for the greater good. That is sheer :Fi: , :Se: , :Ni: . If you see the whole movie as spun around that, it makes sense, although individual episodes such as Captain Sternn, and the one about the secretary with the alien robot, are Alpha.
STERN STERN STERN!!!!
lol what a great movie. yeah, i could go for heavy metal being sort of alpha-gamma. not a combination you see that often!
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Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
I've heard someone say that all the characters are INTp...but MBTI INTp I think it was....
I doubt that. We can always see what people think about it in a What's My Type thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clover
The Departed
I think the movie is Ni, and idealistic rebellion (as opposed to reformation) always makes me think more Fe/Ti, especially Beta. However, the focus of the movie, like the Tarentino flicks, is more on the relationships between individuals than the atmosphere or group interaction. As for the characters, my best guesses would be:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clover
Neo: LII
Trinity: SLI
Morpheus: ESI
Smith: LSI
The super-ego between Morpheus and Neo, while not to be expected from their formal relationship, is suggested throughout the movie: Morpheus "believes" in Neo and the prophecy unwaveringly, even when Neo doubts it. Neo shows weak :Se: - "I'm not the One!" and Morpheus comes back with the various forms of "Yes you are" (seeing the reality of Neo's power in the matrix [Se] and refusing to believe that reality won't conform to the prophecy, and his beliefs will be wrong (insecure Ti, Ni HA).
That's mainly Delta as a movie, but with a Gamma flavor imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
This will be perhaps be controversial -- but the original Superman - Superman II duo as conceived by Richard Donner (not as it was eventually released) was Gamma, Donner himself said that the film's overall theme was the relationship between father and son.Quote:
Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
The Krypton sequences are most clearly Gamma (Jor-El - ENTj, Lara - ISFj), the remainder of the film less clearly so, but it becomes more obvious if you watch the new "Richard Donner cut" of Superman II, with all the Brando (Jor-El) scenes that had been removed for the theatrical version (and which made a total mess of the plot).
:D I'm glad you brought this up; I just recently had a conversation in pm with Diana in which I noticed a similar pattern:
(Diana's text is in regular, mine is in Italics, comments in bold)
So basically Superhero movies share the "hero quest" element with stories like the Odyssey, but in addition, Superhero movies are usually Fi>Fe because of the tendency for superhero movies to focus more heavily on the relationships of the hero with individuals, rather than a group of people interating with either an individual or another group; this would imply an Fe focus, as in V for Vendetta:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilligan
(And although I didn't mention it hereo, V for Vendetta also has some of the makings of a Hero Quest story, as does the Matrix)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilligan
Oh yeah. I had previously mentioned that The Odyssey - also its film versions, like the tv one with Armand Assante - is Gamma, and particularly in that version Odysseus is ENTj and Peneloppe is ISFj, clearly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
By contrast, the X-Men is more Delta than Gamma.
Good call, that's an excellent comparison/counter-example.
The Count of Monte Cristo; Drunken Master II; Kung Fu Hustle
The Count of Monte Cristo is perhaps the ultimate Gamma story.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_1_poster.jpg
The orginal movie.
It seems to me anything post-apocalyptic would have to be either Beta or Gamma. Like Waterworld, for instance.
what about Magnolia?
The Terminators series
Aliens series
Most Kubrick films
Most David Lynch films
Sling Blade
Lord of the Flies
Yep, I agree with this one. Seems very ESFp-INTp.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
The rest of these films proposed - well, I'm either skeptical of everyone's assertions or else haven't seen the flicks (and that would be most of them). Honestly, I would think that many films do not have an outstanding affinity with a particular quadra unless there was something entirely unusual about them. And when they do, they probably don't go very mainstream in terms of popularity.
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Dune?
At the very least there is a shitload of Ni.Quote:
Originally Posted by tempral
I was leaning towards INFp for his type (as opposed to INTp), what do you think?
He's most definitely INTp ... :wink: But I like his movies a lot, and could relate to it in strange ways. I think in his first movie "Eraserhead", he displays a lot of awkwardness and perplexities with Fe emotions (Fe PoLR).
i think that is a horrible idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by implied
Anyways, back on topic ...
Fun with Dick & Jane (2005)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ICKANDJANE.jpg
Anyway :8*
what about Dune!? Dune is totally gamma, IMO.
Dune - not necessarily the movie version - is Beta-Gamma I think.
A Gamma comedy:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...orldposter.jpg
That movie was so funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat
Evangelion = ....... delta... imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isha
- Daredevil
However, I would say that the "Daredevil" character is probably ISTp. But it doesn't change the overall (IMO) hardcore-Gamma plot of the movie.
I cannot like Braveheart... it's because it's so anti-English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana
It's also largely historical nonsense -- for instance, Wallace was a lowlander, not a highlander.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSpin
Still, as a movie, it's Gamma.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ove_poster.jpg
A rather flawed romantic comedy that flopped, but its themes are definitely Gamma.
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
http://www.uwec.edu/DC/AP/IFS/pastfi...ockyhorror.jpg
A fine, upstanding Serious Gamma couple, Brad and Janet (INTp and ESFp respectively) are sucked into Alpha/Beta hedonism and depravity.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...stmanearth.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._DVD_cover.jpg
Which are versions of the same book, Richard Matheson's I am Legend.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=SIRS1jhui7g[/youtube]
I used to love that movie. :lol: I've seen it at least half a dozen times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Expat
<3 Meg Ryan
Sometimes her characters are annoying or boring, but I really liked her character in that movie. I liked her a lot in French Kiss as well.
http://www.dvdcollector.nl/img/dvdho...rench_kiss.jpg
(I don't know if it's a Gamma movie or not. I haven't seen it in years. It does portray Fi vs. Fe issues though. Again, the story is about how her boyfriend leaves her and hooks up with a Fe woman.)
I hate Meg Ryan and hope she dies.
:P I'm going to rent Addicted to Love.
I'm going to watch Sealab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
I'm sure you will.
I'm sure you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy
I can never watch a film more than once in close succession unless I absolutely love it. Like Serenity or Firefly. My sister on the other hand... geez...
Wayne's World
http://www.dio.net/pictures_cd/wayne..._front_big.jpg
Music, characters, and probably actors too - all Gamma.
Wayne: ENTj
Garth: INTp
Cassandra: ISFj
Benjamin: ENFj
Shawshank, Gladiator and Pulp Fiction are modern classics. Blow was surprisingly good, but is like a reworking of the superior Goodfellas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly
Are also all either good, fantastic or classic (but I haven't seen Lolita, Rabbit-Proof Fence or The Graduate sadly).Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Which quadra(s) would you put the Vietnam War movies in to? Primarily I'm talking Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket.
And also how about City of God, The Big Sleep, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Fight Club, Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler and L.A. Confidential?
They are ok, bad, and good, respectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezra
lol @ spousal bickering.
Sealab > any romantic comedy ever. Watch Stimutacs for me.
Just watched it on DVD recently.
Is Les Misérables Gamma?
I never read the novel; from what I know of film versionsm, yes, I think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by eunice
The Lion King (SEE protagonist, LII villain)
The Brave Little Toaster (Gamma music too)
Simba and Scar?Quote:
Originally Posted by thehotelambush
What quadra do you think L. A. Confidential fits into? What do you think the main characters' types are?
Apocalypse Now, The Factory, maybe 3:10 to Yuma delta/gamma ... I think. Also "The Village" is ILI I think
anyone see 21, yet?
seems to really downplay Fe, and strongly favors the loyalty between people over loyalty to a group. the betrayal plotline seems to be related to misplaced Fi on behalf of the victims
Yes, I would definitely say that 21 was a Gamma movie. The loyalty/betrayal theme that runs throughout the movie is seems indicative of Fi. Also, the background representation of the academic world, along with the card-counting scheme in general is rather suggestive of Te. I didn't see much Ni in itself, yet the main character's struggle at the end to overcome his lust for the thrill of Vegas and money-making seemed very Se.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isolda Biloruka
Some other Gamma movies:
- Dr. Strangelove (yes, another Gamma comedy, rare as they might be)
- Eyes Wide Shut
- A Clockwork Orange
- Munich
- Monty Python's the Meaning of Life (yet not the other Monty Python movies)
- Brazil (maybe)
- The Shining
- Time Bandits (maybe Beta. quite Ni)
Bicentennial Man
Code 46
Contact
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Primer
Strange Days
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Screamers
Tank Girl
Discuss.
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Originally Posted by drd252
:Fe::Fe::Fe::Fe:
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Originally Posted by discojoe
yeah ever since she had that weird plastic surgery to her lips....*shivers*....she looks weird. shoulda left well enough alone.
Yep. Most of the characters have remarkably consistent personalities. Simba is rebellious, makes rash decisions, and doesn't like to have anything tie him down, to be obligated to anyone or anything. Scar on the other hand finds it easy to bide his time, sowing the seeds of dissent more through ideology ("a world where hyenas and lions work and live side by side") than personal characteristics. Mufasa criticizes him for being ineffectual/lazy, if I remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by hellothere
The whole point of the movie seems to be that a life of ease in the jungle is nice, but that it reflects immaturity and what's really important is to defend the people close to you when they need your help most of all.
As for the rest:
Mufasa: LSI (perhaps ESI?)
Scar: LII
Zazu: LIE
Timon: ILE
Pumbaa: SEI
Rafiki: probably irrational - IEI?
*Dude where's my car?
*Jay and Silent Bob
*Any movie that resembles the last two movies
*Sin City
*P2
*Fantastic 4
*Cloverfield
*The Kingdom
Not a movie, but Last of the Summer Wine.
What does Se have to do with being malevolent and calculating? Part of his motivation was his dissatisfaction with always being in his brother's shadow, which could have something to do with vulnerable Se.Quote:
Originally Posted by jxrtes
Maybe if I had a hyena army...Quote:
do u ever picture yourself acting like that?:)
Some random thoughts...
Prison Break (1-it's not a movie 2-Scofield is an INTj and Burrows is an ESFj but the series strike me as gamma...money,family, destroying an enemy...)
Cape Fear
Robocop (yes!!, Robocop is an ISFj built by an ENTj mega-corporation taking revenge over bad guys in the name of his prime directives)
Jurassic Park (a group of Alphas rejecting gamma ideas)
Basic Instinct (agressor-victim relationship)
Fatal Attraction (Michael Douglas always plays the role of victim)
Has anyone seen this british tv show? There's 5 seasons, each with 6 20 minute episodes. It's hilarious I strongly recommend it. Anyways I think the main character is ILI and his roommate is SEE. I think you Gammas would enjoy it, it's at ninjavideo.net